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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by Boston Saint He certainly has handled himself well post the incident. He is saying the right things and appears contrite. But just for argument sake, here are a few things to consider in regards as to why ...

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Old 08-11-2023, 11:20 AM   #1
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He certainly has handled himself well post the incident. He is saying the right things and appears contrite. But just for argument sake, here are a few things to consider in regards as to why people are on different pages with his issue. Let’s say that a person is satisfied with what Kamara has done after the legal ruling and comfortable with the price he has paid.

Is it so hard to understand that some other people may think one or more of these things:

He is only acting sorry and saying the “right” things because he has millions of dollars at stake. His actions and what he said about them afterward show his true nature.

Any person who has ever been violently assaulted and hospitalized unlawfully themselves would be much more sensitive to this issue, and therefore unwilling to forgive him for his actions.

Any person who has ever done something similar to Kamara (gotten into a bar fight let’s say) probably spent several months in jail. They see the unfairness of a rich person, getting away with a crime that a poor person would not.

In my mind these are all valid reasons why someone would have negative feelings about him. Just food for thought.
I can somewhat see the perspective from each of those points, but the amount of emotional investment is something I can’t relate to. Not in the instance of a fight. It’s all too common for me to see a fight go from 1 on 1 to 1 vs 5 or 3 vs 3 in an instant. It just doesn’t move the needle for me or any of the people around me. It’s truly on the opposite end of the spectrum in regards to perspective on the situation. As far as him getting off easy because he’s an athlete, I’m not really bothered by that either. At that point it would just be jealousy on my part. We all know the rules change depending on socioeconomic status, race, gender, sexual orientation, etc. The court decisions involving athletes is at the very bottom of my equality/equity totem pole.
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Old 08-11-2023, 11:39 AM   #2
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I can somewhat see the perspective from each of those points, but the amount of emotional investment is something I can’t relate to. Not in the instance of a fight. It’s all too common for me to see a fight go from 1 on 1 to 1 vs 5 or 3 vs 3 in an instant. It just doesn’t move the needle for me or any of the people around me. It’s truly on the opposite end of the spectrum in regards to perspective on the situation. As far as him getting off easy because he’s an athlete, I’m not really bothered by that either. At that point it would just be jealousy on my part. We all know the rules change depending on socioeconomic status, race, gender, sexual orientation, etc. The court decisions involving athletes is at the very bottom of my equality/equity totem pole.
Fair enough. I understand and respect both viewpoints. Certainly his actions don’t amount to what Sharper’s actions were. Plus I’ll be the first to say that football is by its nature a violent sport. It’s not surprising that the people who play it at the highest level have a sense of violence in them.
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Old 08-11-2023, 04:30 PM   #3
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Fair enough. I understand and respect both viewpoints. Certainly his actions don’t amount to what Sharper’s actions were. Plus I’ll be the first to say that football is by its nature a violent sport. It’s not surprising that the people who play it at the highest level have a sense of violence in them.
The last sentence is the biggest thing for me. It’s a gladiator sport and sometimes those characteristics can manifest off the field. If they manifest in domestic violence then I’m not okay with that. If they manifest in a random fight at a club/venue I don’t really care. I will say boxing is probably my second favorite sport or at least tied with basketball. Kamara didn’t cross the line for me. The curb stomp was unnecessary. The bragging afterwards is typical male, machismo.
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The last sentence is the biggest thing for me. It’s a gladiator sport and sometimes those characteristics can manifest off the field. If they manifest in domestic violence then I’m not okay with that. If they manifest in a random fight at a club/venue I don’t really care. I will say boxing is probably my second favorite sport or at least tied with basketball. Kamara didn’t cross the line for me. The curb stomp was unnecessary. The bragging afterwards is typical male, machismo.


Maybe it was male, machoism. Regardless, it was disappointing to hear someone that I thought so highly of reduce himself to a bragging hooligan. I forgive the man but I see him differently now. Not much. But a little differently. I still think he's a great player and team mate. Let's remember that the team also had to pay for his indiscretions by bringing in another player to cover his snaps while he is on suspension. Oh well, it's history and the future looks bright.
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Old 08-12-2023, 11:12 AM   #5
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Maybe it was male, machoism. Regardless, it was disappointing to hear someone that I thought so highly of reduce himself to a bragging hooligan. I forgive the man but I see him differently now. Not much. But a little differently. I still think he's a great player and team mate. Let's remember that the team also had to pay for his indiscretions by bringing in another player to cover his snaps while he is on suspension. Oh well, it's history and the future looks bright.
I’m a little glad it forced them to seriously address RB. We’re always better when we’re two and three deep at that position. I guess we have to take into consideration I think I’m considerably younger than a lot of the members of the board. I can’t say I wouldn’t get into a fight and be bragging about it later. 😂
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I’m a little glad it forced them to seriously address RB. We’re always better when we’re two and three deep at that position. I guess we have to take into consideration I think I’m considerably younger than a lot of the members of the board. I can’t say I wouldn’t get into a fight and be bragging about it later. 😂
Well, I won my fights so I had bragging rights. Lol

Also, I totally agree bout forcing the Saints to pay attention to the running back room. AK is probably playing on his last contract with the Saints. I know he wants to retire a Saint like Cam but I don't see it happening. He's too expensive.
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Old 08-12-2023, 11:26 AM   #7
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Well, I won my fights so I had bragging rights. Lol

Also, I totally agree bout forcing the Saints to pay attention to the running back room. AK is probably playing on his last contract with the Saints. I know he wants to retire a Saint like Cam but I don't see it happening. He's too expensive.
True! If he does like most RB’s maybe he’ll retire around 30.
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Old 08-12-2023, 12:28 PM   #8
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The last sentence is the biggest thing for me. It’s a gladiator sport and sometimes those characteristics can manifest off the field. If they manifest in domestic violence then I’m not okay with that. If they manifest in a random fight at a club/venue I don’t really care. I will say boxing is probably my second favorite sport or at least tied with basketball. Kamara didn’t cross the line for me. The curb stomp was unnecessary. The bragging afterwards is typical male, machismo.
I agree with most of this rez. I will say one more thing though and finish my piece. You mention you are not Ok with domestic violence. I agree and respect you for saying that.

Kamara was put into a stressful, non-life threatening (probably not even injury threatening considering it was 5 or 6 to one) situation and he chose to resort to excessive violence. A person who would be part of that is more likely to have an issue with domestic violence than a person who would have used restraint.
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