2023 New Orleans Saints: Regular Season News

iceshack149 · 09-26-2023, 01:26 PM

So the ball that hit Olave in the chest in the end zone isn't considered a dropped pass?

AsylumGuido · 09-26-2023, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

So the ball that hit Olave in the chest in the end zone isn't considered a dropped pass?

Here's EVERY target to Olave the whole Packers game. There wasn't any drops.

Chris Olave Every Target and Catch @ Green Bay Packers \| 2023 Week 3 \| Fantasy Football Film - YouTube

AsylumGuido · 09-26-2023, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

So the ball that hit Olave in the chest in the end zone isn't considered a dropped pass?

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Here's EVERY target to Olave the whole Packers game. There wasn't any drops.

Chris Olave Every Target and Catch @ Green Bay Packers | 2023 Week 3 | Fantasy Football Film - YouTube

Still waiting to see that drop, ice.

Every target is in the video so it should be easy. The time marker would work.

Thanks in advance!

AsylumGuido · 09-27-2023, 08:26 AM

Wow! This shows how teams have been attempting to attack us through the air with limited success.

rezburna · 09-27-2023, 08:36 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Wow! This shows how teams have been attempting to attack us through the air with limited success.

https://twitter.com/JeffDuncan_/stat...02144505684080

Yep.

K Major · 09-27-2023, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Yep.

Excellent stat through 3 quarters for the Saints CBs though.

Love converted on that 2 pt conversion (Latt) ...

Love throwing (on Issac's side) a rainbow to Reed with 4:00 left in the game.

Love backshoulder (on Issac's side) TD pass to Dobbs under 3 min for the go ahead score. Never understood why Allen didn't give Issac any help late.

Jordan Love was meh most of the game but when it mattered most ... man he cooked

our CBs.

iceshack149 · 09-27-2023, 11:07 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Excellent stat through 3 quarters for the Saints CBs though.

Love converted on that 2 pt conversion (Latt) ...

Love throwing (on Issac's side) a rainbow to Reed with 4:00 left in the game.

Love backshoulder (on Issac's side) TD pass to Dobbs under 3 min for the go ahead score. Never understood why Allen didn't give Issac any help late.

Jordan Love was meh most of the game but when it mattered most ... man he cooked our CBs.

Yes. And I may be petty-homer guy but those last second PI calls were gifts for the Packers.

cmike · 09-27-2023, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

So the ball that hit Olave in the chest in the end zone isn't considered a dropped pass?

Maybe it’s not considered a drop because it didn’t hit his hands but in the chest between the 1 and 2. Maybe not a drop because he possibly stepped out of bounds before the ball caved his chest in.

AsylumGuido · 09-27-2023, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

So the ball that hit Olave in the chest in the end zone isn't considered a dropped pass?

Originally Posted by cmike

Maybe it’s not considered a drop because it didn’t hit his hands but in the chest between the 1 and 2. Maybe not a drop because he possibly stepped out of bounds before the ball caved his chest in.

I went back and found the play-by-play in the boxscore and double checked it against the individual defensive stats. The defender on that play, Keisean Nixon, was targeted three times for the game. He gave up two completions and had one Pass Defended. That play was where he was credited with the Pass Defended because he got a hand on the ball before it got into the body of Olave. If you go back and watch the play again you'll see that. BTW, you cannot have a dropped pass and a pass defended on the same play anyway.

But, I believe you are right, cmike, had it not been deflected by Nixon Olave may not have been able to get the feet down in bounds anyway.

cmike · 09-27-2023, 12:33 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I went back and found the play-by-play in the boxscore and double checked it against the individual defensive stats. The defender on that play, Keisean Nixon, was targeted three times for the game. He gave up two completions and had one Pass Defended. That play was where he was credited with the Pass Defended because he got a hand on the ball before it got into the body of Olave. If you go back and watch the play again you'll see that. BTW, you cannot have a dropped pass and a pass defended on the same play anyway.

But, I believe you are right, cmike, had it not been deflected by Nixon Olave may not have been able to get the feet down in bounds anyway.

On the game day thread, no one questioned whether it was a drop or not. Most were curious why Carr didn’t throw it to MT13 instead. Vilma immediately commented and said Carr shouldn’t have thrown it there and got lucky that the pass wasn’t picked.

09-26-2023, 01:26 PM	#1
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,335 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2023 New Orleans Saints: Regular Season News So the ball that hit Olave in the chest in the end zone isn't considered a dropped pass? cmike and K Major like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: 2023 New Orleans Saints: Regular Season News Originally Posted by iceshack149 So the ball that hit Olave in the chest in the end zone isn't considered a dropped pass? Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Here's EVERY target to Olave the whole Packers game. There wasn't any drops. Chris Olave Every Target and Catch @ Green Bay Packers \| 2023 Week 3 \| Fantasy Football Film - YouTube Still waiting to see that drop, ice. Every target is in the video so it should be easy. The time marker would work. Thanks in advance!

09-27-2023, 08:26 AM	#4
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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,999	Re: 2023 New Orleans Saints: Regular Season News Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Wow! This shows how teams have been attempting to attack us through the air with limited success. https://twitter.com/JeffDuncan_/stat...02144505684080 Yep.

09-27-2023, 09:54 AM	#6
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2023 New Orleans Saints: Regular Season News Originally Posted by rezburna Yep. Excellent stat through 3 quarters for the Saints CBs though. Love converted on that 2 pt conversion (Latt) ... Love throwing (on Issac's side) a rainbow to Reed with 4:00 left in the game. Love backshoulder (on Issac's side) TD pass to Dobbs under 3 min for the go ahead score. Never understood why Allen didn't give Issac any help late. Jordan Love was meh most of the game but when it mattered most ... man he cooked our CBs. Rugby Saint II likes this.

09-27-2023, 11:07 AM	#7
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,335 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2023 New Orleans Saints: Regular Season News Originally Posted by K Major Excellent stat through 3 quarters for the Saints CBs though. Love converted on that 2 pt conversion (Latt) ... Love throwing (on Issac's side) a rainbow to Reed with 4:00 left in the game. Love backshoulder (on Issac's side) TD pass to Dobbs under 3 min for the go ahead score. Never understood why Allen didn't give Issac any help late. Jordan Love was meh most of the game but when it mattered most ... man he cooked our CBs. Yes. And I may be petty-homer guy but those last second PI calls were gifts for the Packers. AsylumGuido likes this.

09-27-2023, 09:30 AM	#8
cmike 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulfport Posts: 1,447	Re: 2023 New Orleans Saints: Regular Season News Originally Posted by iceshack149 So the ball that hit Olave in the chest in the end zone isn't considered a dropped pass? Maybe it’s not considered a drop because it didn’t hit his hands but in the chest between the 1 and 2. Maybe not a drop because he possibly stepped out of bounds before the ball caved his chest in. iceshack149 likes this.

09-27-2023, 11:34 AM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: 2023 New Orleans Saints: Regular Season News Originally Posted by iceshack149 So the ball that hit Olave in the chest in the end zone isn't considered a dropped pass? Originally Posted by cmike Maybe it’s not considered a drop because it didn’t hit his hands but in the chest between the 1 and 2. Maybe not a drop because he possibly stepped out of bounds before the ball caved his chest in. I went back and found the play-by-play in the boxscore and double checked it against the individual defensive stats. The defender on that play, Keisean Nixon, was targeted three times for the game. He gave up two completions and had one Pass Defended. That play was where he was credited with the Pass Defended because he got a hand on the ball before it got into the body of Olave. If you go back and watch the play again you'll see that. BTW, you cannot have a dropped pass and a pass defended on the same play anyway. But, I believe you are right, cmike, had it not been deflected by Nixon Olave may not have been able to get the feet down in bounds anyway. cmike likes this.
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09-27-2023, 12:33 PM	#10
cmike 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulfport Posts: 1,447	Re: 2023 New Orleans Saints: Regular Season News Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I went back and found the play-by-play in the boxscore and double checked it against the individual defensive stats. The defender on that play, Keisean Nixon, was targeted three times for the game. He gave up two completions and had one Pass Defended. That play was where he was credited with the Pass Defended because he got a hand on the ball before it got into the body of Olave. If you go back and watch the play again you'll see that. BTW, you cannot have a dropped pass and a pass defended on the same play anyway. But, I believe you are right, cmike, had it not been deflected by Nixon Olave may not have been able to get the feet down in bounds anyway. On the game day thread, no one questioned whether it was a drop or not. Most were curious why Carr didn’t throw it to MT13 instead. Vilma immediately commented and said Carr shouldn’t have thrown it there and got lucky that the pass wasn’t picked. AsylumGuido likes this.