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neugey 09-12-2023 08:09 PM

Re: Do the Jets trade for Winston?
 
We could trade them Taysom and then the Jets could run Wildcat and Option plays with Breece and Cook all game.

Now I'm being facetious!

BakoSaint 09-12-2023 10:21 PM

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No matter how many times Brady has sworn to god that he is 200% retired, I would not rule out his being tempted to come back for one year with an elite defense and elite weapons on offense.

If the Jets want Winston I would trade Winston for a 4th. Depth is valuable but in the unlikely event Carr is injured, I don't trust our oline that didn't protect Carr to protect both a more brittle Winston and a newly more brittle returning Carr and to lead us to a championship season through all that adversity. I think if Carr goes down our season is probably over. And in the unlikely event its not, I think Hill and Haener are almost as good as Winston for a few games. There is a recency bias but remember that in one of our preseason games Haener looked better than Winston. And Haener will be back from suspension soon. And Hill would be better with legit deep threats than what he looked like in 2021 with no receivers. We could also pick up a player like Zappe or Greer or something if we traded Winston.

It's true that oline is scarce. Thats why getting more middle round picks for a player we are unlikely to retain long term would be valuable. We can use those middle round picks to draft or trade for oline. Teams out of contention will be willing to trade oline at the deadline. A 4th round pick could also be used to move up for the right oline who we want in the 2nd or 3rd if we don't like the oline likely to be available in the 4th. Or we could trade a 2024 4th for a 2025 3rd and plan for the future.

SmashMouth 09-13-2023 07:01 AM

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stickman 09-13-2023 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 979620)
Maybe as a backup. Or some other vet. I'll bet they stick with Wilson as the starter.

I think they at least give him the chance to win the job for the rest of the season. Still think they will bring in an experienced QB. Just in case.

Rugby Saint II 09-13-2023 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 979661)
No matter how many times Brady has sworn to god that he is 200% retired, I would not rule out his being tempted to come back for one year with an elite defense and elite weapons on offense.

If the Jets want Winston I would trade Winston for a 4th. Depth is valuable but in the unlikely event Carr is injured, I don't trust our oline that didn't protect Carr to protect both a more brittle Winston and a newly more brittle returning Carr and to lead us to a championship season through all that adversity. I think if Carr goes down our season is probably over. And in the unlikely event its not, I think Hill and Haener are almost as good as Winston for a few games. There is a recency bias but remember that in one of our preseason games Haener looked better than Winston. And Haener will be back from suspension soon. And Hill would be better with legit deep threats than what he looked like in 2021 with no receivers. We could also pick up a player like Zappe or Greer or something if we traded Winston.

It's true that oline is scarce. Thats why getting more middle round picks for a player we are unlikely to retain long term would be valuable. We can use those middle round picks to draft or trade for oline. Teams out of contention will be willing to trade oline at the deadline. A 4th round pick could also be used to move up for the right oline who we want in the 2nd or 3rd if we don't like the oline likely to be available in the 4th. Or we could trade a 2024 4th for a 2025 3rd and plan for the future.

Great points. I'm a little surprised that you didn't mention the salary cap though! Lol

Papa Voodoo 09-13-2023 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 979557)
Yup. I have been trying to make this point for weeks. And several more OL players went down this weekend. Seattle alone lost two OT's to turf toes.

As for trading Winston, do the Jets even have a decent pick remaining? I thought they gave up the boat just to get Rodgers.

Quinnen Williams for Winston and a high pick. Guy is a beast.

AsylumGuido 09-13-2023 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo (Post 979738)
Quinnen Williams for Winston and a high pick. Guy is a beast.

Williams carries a more than $47 million cap hit to the Jets if traded or cut. They just signed a 4 year $96 million extension through the end of 2027. That dream is a tad out of reach. :D


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