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Rell&Gold 09-18-2023 09:33 PM

Re: Saints @ Panthers Game Day Thread
 
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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 980219)
I would take a time machine back 6 months and do a rebuild over this version of 2-0. We just faced a team that Atlanta beat by 14 which then lost 3 more starters and we beat them by 3. I think you honestly can't look at us as division favorites after barely escaping the bottom team by 3 points.

I think we could be just about as competitive had we stayed out of the Carr sweepstakes, picked up someone like Mayfield or Huntley to compete with Winston for cheap, and spent our money cleaning up our salary cap by getting rid of guys like Peat, Hill (if he wouldn't take a major paycut to reflect that he ain't Kelce), Thomas, and Kamara who won't be part of the solution long term.

I always thought we would win this game. I hoped we would look better and win by more. Given this result, I expect the upcoming games to be rough.

Terrible idea as whole but I feel you though

SmashMouth 09-18-2023 09:33 PM

Re: Saints @ Panthers Game Day Thread
 
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Originally Posted by Boston Saint (Post 980224)
I took panthers +3.

:awe:

Should you turn in your fan card? :confused:

hitta 09-18-2023 09:35 PM

Re: Saints @ Panthers Game Day Thread
 
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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 980219)
I would take a time machine back 6 months and do a rebuild over this version of 2-0. We just faced a team that Atlanta beat by 14 which then lost 3 more starters and we beat them by 3. I think you honestly can't look at us as division favorites after barely escaping the bottom team by 3 points.

I think we could be just about as competitive had we stayed out of the Carr sweepstakes, picked up someone like Mayfield or Huntley to compete with Winston for cheap, and spent our money cleaning up our salary cap by getting rid of guys like Peat, Hill (if he wouldn't take a major paycut to reflect that he ain't Kelce), Thomas, and Kamara who won't be part of the solution long term.

I always thought we would win this game. I hoped we would look better and win by more. Given this result, I expect the upcoming games to be rough.

Carr blows those guys out of the water. He's still growing more accustomed to the receivers, it takes time. A lot of the issues were communication issues other than the O-line being porous. Carr made a lot of great throws in this game.

WW_Who_Dat 09-18-2023 09:56 PM

Re: Saints @ Panthers Game Day Thread
 
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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 980227)
Terrible idea as whole but I feel you though

Like get rid of Hill …

jnormand 09-18-2023 10:05 PM

Re: Saints @ Panthers Game Day Thread
 
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Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat (Post 980234)
Like get rid of Hill …

Blasphemy!!!!!

WW_Who_Dat 09-18-2023 10:26 PM

Re: Saints @ Panthers Game Day Thread
 
That kind thing in The Big Easy will get your name on a voodoo doll with a big ole pin.

rezburna 09-19-2023 07:44 AM

Re: Saints @ Panthers Game Day Thread
 
We can’t say x team beat y time by z, so if the Saints don’t beat y team by the same amount or more as x team then they aren’t as good. Styles make fights. Our offensive line isn’t the greatest right now and the Panthers have a great front 7.

WW_Who_Dat 09-19-2023 08:49 AM

Re: Saints @ Panthers Game Day Thread
 
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 980268)
We can’t say x team beat y time by z, so if the Saints don’t beat y team by the same amount or more as x team then they aren’t as good. Styles make fights. Our offensive line isn’t the greatest right now and the Panthers have a great front 7.

Any team can win on any given game day rez we see it every year. Teams, especially this year, defenses are playing ahead of their offensive units and we have heard several coaches already stated they will look at having starters play more snaps next year. 12 plays for our offensive starters I think is clearly impacting its performance more so than usual in the early part of the season.

We have played against a couple of really good defenses and won, called it ugly, but we scored more points and in the end “W” is the only statistic that counts. I felt like the play calling was too predictable, less motion, run on first down. It allowed the Panthers D to tee off on Carr way to often. The Panthers had the script.

After all the criticism and hand wringing of the off season moves on the defensive front, the addition of Sheppard, Saunders, Breese with Jordan and Granderson certainly looks to have been the right moves by Allen and Saints scouting personnel.

Linebackers … Ggggreat that’s all that needs to be said.

Our CB’s are elite, just get Adebo to stop committing off ball penalties that cancel great defensive play, 2 weeks in a row now.

Safety play is solid.

Clean up the mistakes, keep improving, stay healthy and on to the next test … :bng:

rezburna 09-19-2023 10:24 AM

Re: Saints @ Panthers Game Day Thread
 
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Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat (Post 980273)
Any team can win on any given game day rez we see it every year. Teams, especially this year, defenses are playing ahead of their offensive units and we have heard several coaches already stated they will look at having starters play more snaps next year. 12 plays for our offensive starters I think is clearly impacting its performance more so than usual in the early part of the season.

We have played against a couple of really good defenses and won, called it ugly, but we scored more points and in the end “W” is the only statistic that counts. I felt like the play calling was too predictable, less motion, run on first down. It allowed the Panthers D to tee off on Carr way to often. The Panthers had the script.

After all the criticism and hand wringing of the off season moves on the defensive front, the addition of Sheppard, Saunders, Breese with Jordan and Granderson certainly looks to have been the right moves by Allen and Saints scouting personnel.

Linebackers … Ggggreat that’s all that needs to be said.

Our CB’s are elite, just get Adebo to stop committing off ball penalties that cancel great defensive play, 2 weeks in a row now.

Safety play is solid.

Clean up the mistakes, keep improving, stay healthy and on to the next test … :bng:

Agreed. Allen as a defensive coordinator is truly elite. Pete Carmichael has to be replaced though. We’re so unimaginative and far too conservative. With our receivers we should be taking shots down the sideline anytime we get 1 on 1 coverage. It’ll open things up underneath and in the run game.

AsylumGuido 09-19-2023 11:58 AM

Re: Saints @ Panthers Game Day Thread
 
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 980281)
Agreed. Allen as a defensive coordinator is truly elite. Pete Carmichael has to be replaced though. We’re so unimaginative and far too conservative. With our receivers we should be taking shots down the sideline anytime we get 1 on 1 coverage. It’ll open things up underneath and in the run game.

I believe that will be coming more when Carr can get enough time to make those plays.


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