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iceshack149 09-19-2023 02:29 PM

Re: Saints @ Panthers Game Day Thread
 
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 980281)
Agreed. Allen as a defensive coordinator is truly elite. Pete Carmichael has to be replaced though. We’re so unimaginative and far too conservative. With our receivers we should be taking shots down the sideline anytime we get 1 on 1 coverage. It’ll open things up underneath and in the run game.

I say bring back Gruden. Unless he's completely 86'd from the NFL I'd like to see what he could bring to New Orleans.

K Major 09-19-2023 02:34 PM

Re: Saints @ Panthers Game Day Thread
 
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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 980309)
I say bring back Gruden. Unless he's completely 86'd from the NFL I'd like to see what he could bring to New Orleans.

Agreed. Still a innovative mind.

Pete C isn't creative enough & is predictable.

SmashMouth 09-19-2023 03:07 PM

Re: Saints @ Panthers Game Day Thread
 
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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 980309)
I say bring back Gruden. Unless he's completely 86'd from the NFL I'd like to see what he could bring to New Orleans.

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 980310)
Agreed. Still a innovative mind.

Pete C isn't creative enough & is predictable.

How do we know if he's not helping out now from the behind the scenes ?

AsylumGuido 09-19-2023 03:09 PM

Re: Saints @ Panthers Game Day Thread
 
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 980325)
How do we know if he's not helping out now from the behind the scenes ?

With the current lawsuit he has going against the NFL I would think that "behind the scenes" would be the only way he'd be allowed in the league. :p

K Major 09-19-2023 03:10 PM

Re: Saints @ Panthers Game Day Thread
 
Timestamp starting around 4:26.

Penning gave that LB the business & away from the play :p. Grown man move.

TD :bng:


AsylumGuido 09-19-2023 03:12 PM

Re: Saints @ Panthers Game Day Thread
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 980310)
Agreed. Still a innovative mind.

Pete C isn't creative enough & is predictable.

Sean Payton's having his own offense issues in Denver right now. It doesn't matter how innovative and creative you might be if the offensive line isn't holding up their part of the bargain yet.

WW_Who_Dat 09-19-2023 03:37 PM

Re: Saints @ Panthers Game Day Thread
 
One question with the offensive play calling that I have, where are the screen plays, so far nonexistent. Is that because of the limited backfield options? It has always been one of tool available in preventing the Defense from teeing off on your QB.

Predictable, static, conservative play calling in the first half, better in the second half they were much less predictable. Taysom behind center running and throwing even if only there 1 time. Taking handoffs/toss in the backfield all of which puts more pressure on the defenses. The guy is Beast running the ball especially when he get a head steam. Game plan him in something other than RPO that is statistically 99.9% Run so far this season.

Let’s play and game plan to win 1st-4th quarter not only on offense but also on defense. Prevent defenses are a holdover philosophy from a bygone era in the NFL. If you have a good defense why take away their ability to control the out come rather than being a passive participant.

2 down 21 to go.

dizzle88 09-19-2023 03:41 PM

Re: Saints @ Panthers Game Day Thread
 
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Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat (Post 980332)
One question with the offensive play calling that I have, where are the screen plays, so far nonexistent. Is that because of the limited backfield options? It has always been one of tool available in preventing the Defense from teeing off on your QB.

Predictable, static, conservative play calling in the first half, better in the second half they were much less predictable. Taysom behind center running and throwing even if only there 1 time. Taking handoffs/toss in the backfield all of which puts more pressure on the defenses. The guy is Beast running the ball especially when he get a head steam. Game plan him in something other than RPO that is statistically 99.9% Run so far this season.

Let’s play and game plan to win 1st-4th quarter not only on offense but also on defense. Prevent defenses are a holdover philosophy from a bygone era in the NFL. If you have a good defense why take away their ability to control the out come rather than being a passive participant.

2 down 21 to go.

Agreed, the Defense had them on the ropes the entire game.

The "prevent" defense didn't prevent anything. The Panthers marched 70 yards in 50 seconds, using zero timeouts and scoring a TD.

no_cloning 09-19-2023 04:01 PM

Re: Saints @ Panthers Game Day Thread
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 980143)
Olave wasn't touched after that catch. He could have kept running but he threw the ball on the floor.

That's what I saw. If Bell picks up the ball, that's a fumble recovered by Carolina, right?

Penning holds up well against bull rushes and he is a mauler in the run game, but attack him with speed and he loses much too often. If I can see that, opposing DCs will see it and it won't get any prettier. Don't know how to fix that fast aside from getting him some TE/FB help.

Not ready to call for Carmichael's head. He's working with what he's got. Let's see how it turns out with Kamara back.

If the cost of winning is bringing in Gruden - that price is too high for me. Still dislike him so much.

Defensive line play the positive surprise of the season.

WW_Who_Dat 09-19-2023 04:01 PM

Re: Saints @ Panthers Game Day Thread
 
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 980333)
Agreed, the Defense had them on the ropes the entire game.

The "prevent" defense didn't prevent anything. The Panthers marched 70 yards in 50 seconds, using zero timeouts and scoring a TD.

I said last night, I think one or more of the defensive captain will have conversations with DA about statistically diminishing an outstanding performance with that kind of dated defense that seldom accomplishes it stated purpose. Last night only thing it prevented was a 20-9 win.


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