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BakoSaint 09-24-2023 09:40 PM

Re: Saints @ Packers Game Day Thread
 
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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 981156)
RB and Paulson Adebo aren't the reason we loss.....I get your point definitely wasn't A-team on
the field

Kamara and Aaron Jones are comperable though we were missing Kamara and Maye due to suspensions we knew for years were coming sooner or later which is different than unexpected injury.

Jaire Alexander is more like if we were missing Lattimore, an elite pro bowl type corner, no Adebo a marginal starting corner.

Baktari or whetever his name is a big name Tackle, more equivalent to if we were missing Ramcyzk.

Watson is the Packers best receiver. More like if we were missing Olave though Olave is a little better.

I dont know that we will play a team with as many injuries as the Packers had today for the rest of the year. This was a chance. Allen blew it.

The Packers were 9-8 last year. Love is looking better than expected but in the past he looked like a bust who never impressed in limited time. So you take a 9-8 team, knock out 5 key starters, and downgrade their QB from a hall of famer to a unproven late first rounder who has looked like a bust in the past, and we can’t beat them. Yeah our QB went down for 1.5 quarters but thats bc he likes to hold the ball and our oline doesnt like to block, and we are supposed to have one of the best backups. But we lose. Typical Dennis Allen. Not a head coach this side of the Canada border.

Rell&Gold 09-24-2023 09:44 PM

Re: Saints @ Packers Game Day Thread
 
That first down taysom playcalled killed it us fourth wasn't he time for that. Almost look like they were trying to run out the clock instead of moving the ball. This definitely on DA and Pete. The defense held for as long as a defense could. We gotta see what happens. Oline is the biggest problem hands down

WW_Who_Dat 09-24-2023 09:53 PM

Re: Saints @ Packers Game Day Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 981156)
RB and Paulson Adebo aren't the reason we loss.....I get your point definitely wasn't A-team on
the field

Never said that Rells, but the slot CB that replaced Taylor in the slot because Taylor had play in place of our #2 outside CB. The replacement slot CB was picked on and gave up the go ahead TD. You can’t pick selected facts to further your talking points and not present relative FACTS when trying to further your know dislike of all things Saints.

Facts are stubborn opinions are like the tides that rise and fall. :bng:

RosieReal67

BakoSaint 09-24-2023 09:58 PM

Re: Saints @ Packers Game Day Thread
 
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Originally Posted by Rell&Gold (Post 981159)
That first down taysom playcalled killed it us fourth wasn't he time for that. Almost look like they were trying to run out the clock instead of moving the ball. This definitely on DA and Pete. The defense held for as long as a defense could. We gotta see what happens. Oline is the biggest problem hands down

A fair argument can be made that our offensive line is less of a weakness than our coaching staff. Whats more, its very hard to get other oline starters during the season, but experienced coaches are readily available.

BakoSaint 09-24-2023 10:06 PM

Re: Saints @ Packers Game Day Thread
 
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Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat (Post 981160)
Never said that Rells, but the slot CB that replaced Taylor in the slot because Taylor had play in place of our #2 outside CB. The replacement slot CB was picked on and gave up the go ahead TD. You can’t pick selected facts to further your talking points and not present relative FACTS when trying to further your know dislike of all things Saints.

Facts are stubborn opinions are like the tides that rise and fall. :bng:

RosieReal67

If only we had an alternative at slot CB. Roby was watching the game at home. Maybe he could think of one. But no, the Dennis Allen would lose face. Yidiam just needs to keep doing what he is doing if Adebo misses more time. And if Yidiam needed more help, thats something the announcers need to tell Allen and he needs some time to receive the message. What is a head coach supposed to, make adjustments in real time based on their own observations? And speaking of Taylor, he was horrible at CB2. Really obvious why we moved him to slot, started Adebo this year, and cut Roby. Taylor is clearly going to be happy as a slot corner given how he was humbled this game.

WW_Who_Dat 09-24-2023 10:45 PM

Re: Saints @ Packers Game Day Thread
 
I guess once we cut Roby the league that is always looking for seasoned backup CB’s apparently had similar evaluations, Roby sits. I personally have no insight other 31 teams passed on by.

Rosie Real67

rezburna 09-24-2023 11:20 PM

Re: Saints @ Packers Game Day Thread
 
Isaac Yiadom actually looked pretty serviceable as a backup corner having to start. He had several PBU’s and the pass interference on both he and Taylor was very questionable to me. The likelihood of us being four and five deep with Marshon Lattimore’s at that position is improbable. They should have had Lattimore follow Doubs and play man all game while everybody else played zone. That would have helped out with some of the scrambling too. People tend to only remember the bad plays for certain guys. Yiadom has some potential. I like him. Roby definitely needed to be cut. He’s not that guy anymore and he was at his best in a zone which we don’t run nearly as much as man.

Rell&Gold 09-24-2023 11:42 PM

Re: Saints @ Packers Game Day Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat (Post 981160)
Never said that Rells, but the slot CB that replaced Taylor in the slot because Taylor had play in place of our #2 outside CB. The replacement slot CB was picked on and gave up the go ahead TD. You can’t pick selected facts to further your talking points and not present relative FACTS when trying to further your know dislike of all things Saints.

Facts are stubborn opinions are like the tides that rise and fall. :bng:

RosieReal67

Let's talk facts then. Marshon Veteran corner gave up a 2pt conversion. Demarco Davis gave up a te on fourth goal. Derek Carr Missed a TD to MT on the same play Chris Olave dropped a TD, No Pass rush with two starting oline from Greenbay out. Taylor played the slot today 27 was the outside corner on that play what are you talking about ? And he still had a good game he had multiple pass break ups today. He didn't miss tackle 1v1 On FOURTH down vs a QB.

Rell&Gold 09-24-2023 11:44 PM

Re: Saints @ Packers Game Day Thread
 
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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 981164)
Isaac Yiadom actually looked pretty serviceable as a backup corner having to start. He had several PBU’s and the pass interference on both he and Taylor was very questionable to me. The likelihood of us being four and five deep with Marshon Lattimore’s at that position is improbable. They should have had Lattimore follow Doubs and play man all game while everybody else played zone. That would have helped out with some of the scrambling too. People tend to only remember the bad plays for certain guys. Yiadom has some potential. I like him. Roby definitely needed to be cut. He’s not that guy anymore and he was at his best in a zone which we don’t run nearly as much as man.

I define think Issac played a pretty good game today. Especially for the lack of pass rush the Seconday help it down the front seven was lacking a bit today

Rell&Gold 09-24-2023 11:46 PM

Re: Saints @ Packers Game Day Thread
 
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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 981161)
A fair argument can be made that our offensive line is less of a weakness than our coaching staff. Whats more, its very hard to get other oline starters during the season, but experienced coaches are readily available.

I would argue the oline is the biggest issue. And has been for a while. Coaching needs improvement too


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