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AsylumGuido 10-05-2023 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 982426)
Just like a winner. :beatnik: get over yourself.

It's called self-respect. Thank you very much.

;)

iceshack149 10-05-2023 05:05 PM

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...oh boy...
I sure hope the Saints win this weekend.

Sinner 10-05-2023 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 982428)
...oh boy...
I sure hope the Saints win this weekend.

That’s what really matters.

mapcow 10-06-2023 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 982430)
That’s what really matters.

i expect them to win. :beatnik:

LivnaLieTimay 10-06-2023 12:08 PM

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Pete Carmichael might be the worst coordinator in the league (offense or defense). Two stats tell you everything you need to know…

1) “Pete Carmichael's offense doesn't appear to be giving Carr lots of easy answers, either. Carr ranked No. 1 in QBR off play-action in 2021, but the Saints have dialed up just 10 play-action passes for him through four games, which is comfortably the fewest of any team. (The average team has 29.) Carr is 6-of-10 on those throws for 49 yards and two first downs.“ - Bill Barnwell

2) Saints offense ranks last in the league in using motion

PC is one step away from announcing the play to the defense. We aren’t doing anything to disguise what we’re doing pre snap with motion or post snap with play action. Every defender is able to line up exactly where they need to be prior to the snap. Once the ball is snapped they just need to watch Carr’s first move and they know if it’s a run or a pass. PC has taken all the guess work out of being a defender. It’s an embarrassment this organization brought him (and Allen) back this year.

Rugby Saint II 10-06-2023 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 982394)
exactly.... losers and idiots do not agree with me nor respect my opinion, winners do. :beatnik:

That's funny mapcow! I considered myself a winner! I agree with you less than 50% of the time. Dang! I really want o be a winner. :roll:

Rugby Saint II 10-06-2023 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 982449)
i expect them to win. :beatnik:

Great! It's hard to tell sometimes.

AsylumGuido 10-06-2023 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 982470)
Great! It's hard to tell sometimes.

I believe he was referring to the Patriots.

Sinner 10-06-2023 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 982477)
I believe he was referring to the Patriots.

I’d venture to say that he was referring to the Saints, who at this point, are EXPECTED to win, which is not wishing or hoping or dreaming or hallucinating. We should be PREPARED to win. This is what Fans EXPECT.

rezburna 10-06-2023 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by LivnaLieTimay (Post 982463)
Pete Carmichael might be the worst coordinator in the league (offense or defense). Two stats tell you everything you need to know…

1) “Pete Carmichael's offense doesn't appear to be giving Carr lots of easy answers, either. Carr ranked No. 1 in QBR off play-action in 2021, but the Saints have dialed up just 10 play-action passes for him through four games, which is comfortably the fewest of any team. (The average team has 29.) Carr is 6-of-10 on those throws for 49 yards and two first downs.“ - Bill Barnwell

2) Saints offense ranks last in the league in using motion

PC is one step away from announcing the play to the defense. We aren’t doing anything to disguise what we’re doing pre snap with motion or post snap with play action. Every defender is able to line up exactly where they need to be prior to the snap. Once the ball is snapped they just need to watch Carr’s first move and they know if it’s a run or a pass. PC has taken all the guess work out of being a defender. It’s an embarrassment this organization brought him (and Allen) back this year.

Our coaches have a system that they want players to fit in instead of a fluid system that plays to the strengths of the personnel.

Rugby Saint II 10-07-2023 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 982490)
Our coaches have a system that they want players to fit in instead of a fluid system that plays to the strengths of the personnel.

Zero creativity!:brood: Nada!:brood: Zilch! :brood:

mapcow 10-09-2023 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 982469)
That's funny mapcow! I considered myself a winner! I agree with you less than 50% of the time. Dang! I really want o be a winner. :roll:

considering and being are two different things. :beatnik:

mapcow 10-09-2023 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 982477)
I believe he was referring to the Patriots.

There you go again.... spewing stuff you have no idea in what you are spewing about.... :beatnik:

AsylumGuido 10-09-2023 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 982814)
There you go again.... spewing stuff you have no idea in what you are spewing about.... :beatnik:

It's called sarcastic humor. ;) One would think after all this time I wouldn't have to spell it out. :D

Cruize 10-09-2023 03:28 PM

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The 49ers and Eagles are better than the Saints. Other than that, talent wise, they should beat everyone else in the NFC. Without winning atleast one playoff game, the whole staff should be fired. This team has the talent.

K Major 10-15-2023 03:33 PM

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Bump ….

Same ole song and dance.

We haven’t even played the good teams yet in 2023z

Embarrassing 😳 display vs the Texans.

K Major 10-15-2023 04:11 PM

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Direct quote from the HC today post game :

Dennis Allen: “If we’re not executing our jobs, then we need to find somebody else to execute those jobs. It don’t matter who you are.”

OK, so you getting rid of Pete Carmichael right?

Danno 10-15-2023 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 983329)
Direct quote from the HC today post game :

Dennis Allen: “If we’re not executing our jobs, then we need to find somebody else to execute those jobs. It don’t matter who you are.”

OK, so you getting rid of Pete Carmichael right?

"Executing" jobs sounds like the fault of a player or players, not coaching

BakoSaint 10-15-2023 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 983334)
"Executing" jobs sounds like the fault of a player or players, not coaching

Pete Carmichael's job under Sean Payton was getting Sean coffee and Pete always executed getting coffee. All DA is expecting is Pete to execute running an NFL offense too. He just needs to think of the football as the Starbucks cup holder and the end zone as Sean Payton's desk and he can be successful. How hard can it be?

K Major 10-15-2023 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 983334)
"Executing" jobs sounds like the fault of a player or players, not coaching

You’re probably right however at some point coaches learn how to use their talent effectively. Carmichael has no clue how to call the right plays for the situations our offense finds themselves.

That last drive in the 4th quarter …

We call 4 perimeter vertical passes from the 30 yard line and tried nothing in the middle of the field even with enough time and a time out.

I truly believe coaching is the biggest issue thus far.

Oh well, we have a short week and play a team that can put up points.

Sinner 10-15-2023 05:02 PM

Re: COACH ALLEN SAYS “NO STAFF CHANGES FORTHCOMING…”
 
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 983329)
Direct quote from the HC today post game :

Dennis Allen: “If we’re not executing our jobs, then we need to find somebody else to execute those jobs. It don’t matter who you are.”

OK, so you getting rid of Pete Carmichael right?

Execute Dennis Allen at the job as Head Coach… toooooNIGHT!

WW_Who_Dat 10-15-2023 05:21 PM

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We had more total yards than Houston ……… 430 to 297
We had more passing yards than Houston …. 341 to 177
Rushing yards … 89 to 120
Rushing yards per carry 5.5 to 5.0
First downs 24 to 19
3rd 6/15 to 4/11
Total plays 78 to 60
Sacks allowed 2 to 2
Punts 3 to 5
Penalties 7(83) to 3(29)
Fumbles 1 to 0
Interceptions 1 to 1
Time of possession 31:33 to 28:27

We have the play makers and in the open field the offense can move the ball but situationally if we have scheme to put our player in position to win their matchup the chance of success are Slim and None and Slim has been on the road for the 3rd season in a row.

0 for 3 in the Red Zone …. That’s all about the play calling being atrocious and then not helped by penalties.

Personally done with these 2 coaches.

leilung 10-15-2023 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by WW_Who_Dat (Post 983350)
We had more total yards than Houston ……… 430 to 297
We had more passing yards than Houston …. 341 to 177
Rushing yards … 89 to 120
Rushing yards per carry 5.5 to 5.0
First downs 24 to 19
3rd 6/15 to 4/11
Total plays 78 to 60
Sacks allowed 2 to 2
Punts 3 to 5
Penalties 7(83) to 3(29)
Fumbles 1 to 0
Interceptions 1 to 1
Time of possession 31:33 to 28:27

We have the play makers and in the open field the offense can move the ball but situationally if we have scheme to put our player in position to win their matchup the chance of success are Slim and None and Slim has been on the road for the 3rd season in a row.

0 for 3 in the Red Zone …. That’s all about the play calling being atrocious and then not helped by penalties.

Personally done with these 2 coaches.

It's offense that's killing the squad. Defense... meh. Yes, they could pressure the QB's more with additional pass rushers, but they are playing well enough to win... but only if the Saints score points.

Sinner 10-15-2023 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by leilung (Post 983351)
It's offense that's killing the squad. Defense... meh. Yes, they could pressure the QB's more with additional pass rushers, but they are playing well enough to win... but only if the Saints score points.

Yeah scoring touchdowns… and field goals, is a big part of the game.

bobdog86 10-15-2023 08:32 PM

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DA keeps this up, may not/should not be up to him.

voodooido 10-16-2023 10:45 AM

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He may not have a choice. Owners and players will start demanding change. It’s coming. Delay gratification.

Sinner 10-16-2023 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 983403)
He may not have a choice. Owners and players will start demanding change. It’s coming. Delay gratification.

It should have come last year. It didn’t. And it AINT any time soon.

Rugby Saint II 10-16-2023 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 983412)
It should have come last year. It didn’t. And it AINT any time soon.

Maybe.....just maybe.....DA thinks he can save his job if he promotes Ronald Curry.


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