New Orleans Saints GM Mickey Loomis talks Buccaneers game, upcoming Patriots matchup

10-05-2023, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Loomis needs to stop speaking about the team's issues in the context of "this season".

Carmichael's streak of sub par performance is now 2+ years long.

This is true.

hitta · 10-05-2023, 03:20 PM

I agree with what Loomis was trying to convey. You have to have urgency, but you can't have so much urgency that it causes you to become reckless.

mapcow · 10-05-2023, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The only hole I mentioned is the one that you disappear into when the Saints happen to be winning. Your obsession with any other "hole" is all in your mind's eye, cow.

uh...no you brought up the deviated optic.... I was referring to a hole in the ground. Not so sure what you were envisioning.

mapcow · 10-05-2023, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I like to win, as well. But that doesn't mean I feel compelled to spread hatred toward the team if things aren't going great. It is what it is and there is nothing you or I, or for that matter what any fan can do to change matters so I choose to stay positive and hope for the best.

there you go.... you are an Optimist I am a realist.

AsylumGuido · 10-05-2023, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by mapcow

there you go.... you are an Optimist I am a realist.

Being an optimist and a realist are not mutually exclusive. An optimist looks for a positive outcome and a realist understands when those outcomes are totally outside of their own personal control. I realistically know what I can and cannot affect personally and yet I choose to look at things in a positive manner.

I question your reality when it comes to your approach. You are clearly pessimistic, but do you feel you have any control whatsoever on any outcome? If so, you are not realistic. If not, what good does your pessimism and negativity contribute to any success?

Sinner · 10-05-2023, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Being an optimist and a realist are not mutually exclusive. An optimist looks for a positive outcome and a realist understands when those outcomes are totally outside of their own personal control. I realistically know what I can and cannot affect personally and yet I choose to look at things in a positive manner.

I question your reality when it comes to your approach. You are clearly pessimistic, but do you feel you have any control whatsoever on any outcome? If so, you are not realistic. If not, what good does your pessimism and negativity contribute to any success?

I can’t speak for him or anyone else, but when my team continues to stink up the dome, boos go a long way. Outside of the stadium, grown men calling a spade a spade, is REALISM.

BakoSaint · 10-05-2023, 09:21 PM

After failing to exceed 20 points the first 3 weeks just like us, the Bears scored 28 points in week 4 and 27+ so far in week 5. Did they do this by the GM coming out and publicly guaranteeing everyone's job security? No. It was pretty clear jobs were at risk. If anything the team is letting Loomis, Allen, Carmichael, and Allen down by not setting any expectations. If we want them to shape up, they need to sweat.

Rugby Saint II · 10-06-2023, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by hitta

I agree with what Loomis was trying to convey. You have to have urgency, but you can't have so much urgency that it causes you to become reckless.

PREACH ON BROTHER!!!

mapcow · 10-06-2023, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The only hole I mentioned is the one that you disappear into when the Saints happen to be winning. Your obsession with any other "hole" is all in your mind's eye, cow.

uh... no. maybe your obsessions are holes, but i leave that up to you. Afterall, you brought the subject up.... just sayin. I always cheer the Saints winning, but point out poor play, self indulging, and loser attributes.... things you seem to thrive on. just sayin....

mapcow · 10-06-2023, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Being an optimist and a realist are not mutually exclusive. An optimist looks for a positive outcome and a realist understands when those outcomes are totally outside of their own personal control. I realistically know what I can and cannot affect personally and yet I choose to look at things in a positive manner.

I question your reality when it comes to your approach. You are clearly pessimistic, but do you feel you have any control whatsoever on any outcome? If so, you are not realistic. If not, what good does your pessimism and negativity contribute to any success?

...so... now you are a psychiatrist. No Pessimism here, just reality.... I know when my coach rode my ass because of poor play or attitude, things changed on the outcome....as a result, I won Louisiana state championship, 1979 (trust me, i have the documentation and awards to prove)
... can you relate, maybe so,... doubt it. Again... get over yourself and accept this team is NOT performing to what YOU should be expecting ... WINNING... with that.. i take a toke and hope you don't choke...

to the point... we both want the Saints to win... your way is apathy and wishing... mine is expectation and demand; especially when money is involved.... huge difference.

10-05-2023, 02:36 PM	#21
Threaded by AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,804 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Loomis needs to stop speaking about the team's issues in the context of "this season". Carmichael's streak of sub par performance is now 2+ years long. This is true.
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10-05-2023, 03:20 PM	#22
hitta 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,343	Re: New Orleans Saints GM Mickey Loomis talks Buccaneers game, upcoming Patriots matchup I agree with what Loomis was trying to convey. You have to have urgency, but you can't have so much urgency that it causes you to become reckless. AsylumGuido likes this.
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10-05-2023, 03:29 PM	#23
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,819	Re: New Orleans Saints GM Mickey Loomis talks Buccaneers game, upcoming Patriots matchup Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The only hole I mentioned is the one that you disappear into when the Saints happen to be winning. Your obsession with any other "hole" is all in your mind's eye, cow. uh...no you brought up the deviated optic.... I was referring to a hole in the ground. Not so sure what you were envisioning.
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10-05-2023, 03:30 PM	#24
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,819	Re: New Orleans Saints GM Mickey Loomis talks Buccaneers game, upcoming Patriots matchup Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I like to win, as well. But that doesn't mean I feel compelled to spread hatred toward the team if things aren't going great. It is what it is and there is nothing you or I, or for that matter what any fan can do to change matters so I choose to stay positive and hope for the best. there you go.... you are an Optimist I am a realist.
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10-05-2023, 03:49 PM	#25
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,804	Re: New Orleans Saints GM Mickey Loomis talks Buccaneers game, upcoming Patriots matchup Originally Posted by mapcow there you go.... you are an Optimist I am a realist. Being an optimist and a realist are not mutually exclusive. An optimist looks for a positive outcome and a realist understands when those outcomes are totally outside of their own personal control. I realistically know what I can and cannot affect personally and yet I choose to look at things in a positive manner. I question your reality when it comes to your approach. You are clearly pessimistic, but do you feel you have any control whatsoever on any outcome? If so, you are not realistic. If not, what good does your pessimism and negativity contribute to any success? Rugby Saint II likes this.

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10-05-2023, 05:47 PM	#26
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,072	Re: New Orleans Saints GM Mickey Loomis talks Buccaneers game, upcoming Patriots matchup Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Being an optimist and a realist are not mutually exclusive. An optimist looks for a positive outcome and a realist understands when those outcomes are totally outside of their own personal control. I realistically know what I can and cannot affect personally and yet I choose to look at things in a positive manner. I question your reality when it comes to your approach. You are clearly pessimistic, but do you feel you have any control whatsoever on any outcome? If so, you are not realistic. If not, what good does your pessimism and negativity contribute to any success? I can’t speak for him or anyone else, but when my team continues to stink up the dome, boos go a long way. Outside of the stadium, grown men calling a spade a spade, is REALISM.
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10-05-2023, 09:21 PM	#27
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,433	Re: New Orleans Saints GM Mickey Loomis talks Buccaneers game, upcoming Patriots matchup After failing to exceed 20 points the first 3 weeks just like us, the Bears scored 28 points in week 4 and 27+ so far in week 5. Did they do this by the GM coming out and publicly guaranteeing everyone's job security? No. It was pretty clear jobs were at risk. If anything the team is letting Loomis, Allen, Carmichael, and Allen down by not setting any expectations. If we want them to shape up, they need to sweat. MatthewT and Sinner like this.
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10-06-2023, 03:59 PM	#28
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,200	Re: New Orleans Saints GM Mickey Loomis talks Buccaneers game, upcoming Patriots matchup Originally Posted by hitta I agree with what Loomis was trying to convey. You have to have urgency, but you can't have so much urgency that it causes you to become reckless. PREACH ON BROTHER!!!

10-06-2023, 10:50 PM	#29
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,819	Re: New Orleans Saints GM Mickey Loomis talks Buccaneers game, upcoming Patriots matchup Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The only hole I mentioned is the one that you disappear into when the Saints happen to be winning. Your obsession with any other "hole" is all in your mind's eye, cow. uh... no. maybe your obsessions are holes, but i leave that up to you. Afterall, you brought the subject up.... just sayin. I always cheer the Saints winning, but point out poor play, self indulging, and loser attributes.... things you seem to thrive on. just sayin....
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10-06-2023, 10:56 PM	#30
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,819	Re: New Orleans Saints GM Mickey Loomis talks Buccaneers game, upcoming Patriots matchup Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Being an optimist and a realist are not mutually exclusive. An optimist looks for a positive outcome and a realist understands when those outcomes are totally outside of their own personal control. I realistically know what I can and cannot affect personally and yet I choose to look at things in a positive manner. I question your reality when it comes to your approach. You are clearly pessimistic, but do you feel you have any control whatsoever on any outcome? If so, you are not realistic. If not, what good does your pessimism and negativity contribute to any success? ...so... now you are a psychiatrist. No Pessimism here, just reality.... I know when my coach rode my ass because of poor play or attitude, things changed on the outcome....as a result, I won Louisiana state championship, 1979 (trust me, i have the documentation and awards to prove) ... can you relate, maybe so,... doubt it. Again... get over yourself and accept this team is NOT performing to what YOU should be expecting ... WINNING... with that.. i take a toke and hope you don't choke... to the point... we both want the Saints to win... your way is apathy and wishing... mine is expectation and demand; especially when money is involved.... huge difference. K Major likes this.
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