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Old 10-19-2023, 11:49 PM   #1
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The Saints put up a valiant effort with a second half comeback to tie the game at 24. After the Jaguars went up 31-24, the Saints ran out of gas in the red zone, again, when Foster Moreau dropped a wide open pass in the back corner of the end zone to potentially tie the game with under a minute left.

Taysom Hill had another amazing performance getting the Saints back in the Red Zone by will alone, pushing the Saints in for a 2nd half score.

The defense has to pull out all the stops to hold off the Jaguars throughout the game when the offense wasn't in sync. In the end it was too much as the Jaguars won 31-24 after the Saints offense stalled in the red zone.
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Re: Saints Jaguars Postgame Observations

When Dennis Allen took the Raiders head coaching job he had one goal, to the return the franchise to its traditions and level of play from the late 1960's through early 1980's. He wasn't able to do that. When the Saints offered him another chance, he was sure this was a place where he could do that for us. He was right.
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Old 10-19-2023, 11:51 PM   #3
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“Valiant effort” in the fourth quarter doesn’t get it done.

We need a new Head Coach.
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When Dennis Allen took the Raiders head coaching job he had one goal, to the return the franchise to its traditions and level of play from the late 1960's through early 1980's. He wasn't able to do that. When the Saints offered him another chance, he was sure this was a place where he could do that for us. He was right.
He was chased out of town by Mark Davis by telephone call.
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Old 10-19-2023, 11:59 PM   #5
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Re: Saints Jaguars Postgame Observations

I may have been just a bit too hard on Carmichael. Some of the calls were passable tonight, and going to the hurry up was bold and something Payton refused to do often to our detriment. That said, some of the run calls were horrible and we didn't enough to help the O-line in pass protection. Definitely inferior compared to just about everything the Jaguars schemed.

Carr is looking like a lost cause. We don't need a pouty QB who can only get it together in late-game hurry up. Taysom, Jameis or Haener might be addition by subtraction.
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Old 10-20-2023, 12:01 AM   #6
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I may have been just a bit too hard on Carmichael. Some of the calls were passable tonight, and going to the hurry up was bold and something Payton refused to do often to our detriment. That said, some of the run calls were horrible and we didn't enough to help the O-line in pass protection. Definitely inferior compared to just about everything the Jaguars schemed.

Carr is looking like a lost cause. We don't need a pouty QB who can only get it together in late-game hurry up. Taysom, Jameis or Haener might be addition by subtraction.
There is no player on this team who is as bad as the coaches at this point. Any player benching while the coaches stay employed sends the wrong message for accountability. I say start all the same players next week and every week, until we have new coaches. We have seen these coaches with Dalton. We have seen them with Winston. Haener is probably the new Book. We need to see new coaches.
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Old 10-20-2023, 06:57 AM   #7
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Re: Saints Jaguars Postgame Observations

My observations of the Jags post game are a trend of the season as a whole.

Derek Carr - holds on to the ball too long and needs have confidence to let it go, as evidenced by the up tempo drive. I question his leadership abilities to draw the team together. Mediocre at best QB, maybe I am being kind. Passing smarts and accuracy are glaringly lacking, fortunately this hasn't resulted in more interceptions as would be the case with our backup. I think 7 games in is plenty of time to begin to sync with your talented receiving corp if that was the problem.

The team is in internal turmoil and there is no distinct leadership at the coaching level.

Defense - inconsistent, allowing too many big runs particularly QB. Allowing big plays in general.

Olave - not sure what his deal is but there is something going on there obviously. Maybe he needs benched , but that would hurt his trade value.

O-Line - pieced together but I have seen worse. 75% of the time effort is there and if Carr would release the ball sooner, provided the WR's run and finish the correct routes, we would be much better. I am thinking the line is stepping up.

Taysom - one of the few reasons we are even in these games. A baller!

Grupe - Choke master

Backfield - better utilization, we always run up the middle on first down. We are solid back there, just not sure the entire backfield is being utilized. Could one in the top 5 backfields in the NFL if used correctly.
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I may have been just a bit too hard on Carmichael. Some of the calls were passable tonight, and going to the hurry up was bold and something Payton refused to do often to our detriment. That said, some of the run calls were horrible and we didn't enough to help the O-line in pass protection. Definitely inferior compared to just about everything the Jaguars schemed.

Carr is looking like a lost cause. We don't need a pouty QB who can only get it together in late-game hurry up. Taysom, Jameis or Haener might be addition by subtraction.

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Old 10-20-2023, 08:34 AM   #9
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Re: Saints Jaguars Postgame Observations

Carr is reminding me of late stage Carson Wentz. He makes playing QB look harder than it actually is. On top of our coaching staff being a gaggle of substitute teachers, we now have a real financial dilemma on our hands.
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Old 10-20-2023, 08:37 AM   #10
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Re: Saints Jaguars Postgame Observations

-Not a fan of Carr. His decision making, accuracy and attitude are not good.
-Kickers should be auditioning as we speak. He was playing with house money this summer, not expecting to get the job. Not that he is the kicker, it seems beyond his capabilities at the moment.
-A talent like Kamara deserves to play on a winner.
-Thomas should be traded for no other reason than Carr won't force the ball to him..
-Olave is not what I thought he was or what I hoped he would be.
-A lot of talent and effort is being wasted.
-A record of 7-9 at best.
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