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At least the games would be entertaining if Winston was under center. The over under on interceptions would be a great sticky thread. Jokes aside I would take an exciting win or lose over the snore fest we are seeing every week in our current situation. At least with Winston you know a bomb is coming at some point.

dizzle88

https://youtu.be/ffKHSIJdzVs?si=uH_rCq6FTRgjoPQ4

Deuce Windham tape analysis of Carr and Olave's issues.

K Major

^^^ So in that 22 + min breakdown, Deuce is confirming what
JT OSullivan already told us … your BIGGEST OFFENSE ISSUE is the QB.

Derek Carr has missed open receivers, making the wrong reads etc.

So instead of him trying to show up people by yelling & screaming after every other play, maybe he should look in the mirror first.

At 150M, he should be a lot better than Dalton 🤦🏼*♂️.

BakoSaint

There are some QBs who are game smart on their own and make the right decisions. Then there are system QBs who can execute if the right HC or OC gets in their head so much that they are basically drilled into being an extension of that system on the field and they are always thinking what they know the coach would think and looking where they know the coach would look. Winston was successful at times with Jimbo Fisher, Sean Payton, and at times Bruce Arians, who are all respected offensive gurus. Derek Carr saw his greatest success with Jon Gruden. Right now our offense is run by Pete Carmichael who was apparently the guy who got out of the way and made Starbucks runs while Sean Payton and Drew Brees did their thing, along with DA who only knows how to break offenses not fix them.

I think that if we brought in someone like Gruden, both Carr and Winston would look better. If we keep PC and try to switch to Winston, I think we get 2022 Winston not 2021 or earlier Winston. It's unfortunate that we paid $150 million for Derek Carr when we could have gotten Gruden for like $5 million and he could have done as much with Winston as Carr.

Danno

Perhaps Pete's playbook is too voluminous for Carr right now.
Brees knew the 2nd and 3rd options on every play like the back of his hand. Carr ain't there yet

With the talent we have, cutting the playbook in half probably results in a highly effective and efficient offense anyway.

Carr may be trying to process too much right now.

K Major

Watching Indy (Saints next opponent) vs Browns today.

It’s crazy looking at a second tier QB in Gardner Minshew go up and down the field on a solid defense is just crazy.

Meanwhile we have a QB who can’t seem to score in the redzone.

This will be another tough outing & on the road.

Rugby Saint II

I didn't know there was a middle class seating area on the Titanic. "King of the world Ma."

Sinner

When my Saints used to lose, the deck chairs were way more exciting. Payton/Brees, even Haslett/Brooks… had me on the edge of my seat.

This sh*t this season, last season, and possibly next season, is a yawn-fest.

dizzle88

Yep, there's one thing losing games. But we are just a boring team in general.

Every week is just death by turnover / punt.

I will say, the D isn't as good as originally thought too. I read from Saints reporters that they didn't even record a single hit on Trevor Lawrence, all game!

BakoSaint

This D is built to win a foot race with Tom Brady.