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Papa Voodoo 11-02-2023 03:44 PM

Josh McDaniels as OC or offensive consultant?
 
He knows Carr and has been successful as an OC. There does not seem to be much animosity from the relationship.

Much like Allen coming in as a defensive consultant do y'all think this could be a good move for McDaniels with him replacing Pete next year?

:bng:

MatthewT 11-02-2023 03:52 PM

Re: Josh McDaniels as OC or offensive consultant?
 
Nope, don't want him at all.

jnormand 11-02-2023 04:46 PM

Re: Josh McDaniels as OC or offensive consultant?
 
Anywhere he’s been successful is when he wasn’t calling the offensive plays. And I’m pretty sure he and Carr are not homies.

WW_Who_Dat 11-02-2023 05:28 PM

Re: Josh McDaniels as OC or offensive consultant?
 
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Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo (Post 984771)
He knows Carr and has been successful as an OC. There does not seem to be much animosity from the relationship.

Much like Allen coming in as a defensive consultant do y'all think this could be a good move for McDaniels with him replacing Pete next year?

:bng:

Sure that would be a great reunion to witness first hand. The guy directly instrumental it orchestrating Carr’s release and the Raiders paying the tidy sum of 40.6 million to do so. Now they will pay McDaniels the balance, 40 million, of his 60 million dollar deal to get him out of town ….. what a dysfunctional circus Davis is running. Oh and let’s not forget the balance of the Ziegler’s GM’s contract. 🤦 But it doesn’t count against the cap 🤭

rezburna 11-02-2023 08:11 PM

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Hell nah.

bobdog86 11-02-2023 10:04 PM

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Hard pass, if we do something (which I doubt) I’d say drain the swamp and start fresh

BakoSaint 11-02-2023 11:30 PM

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How about if Dennis Allen goes to the Lions as DC an reunites with CGJ?

neugey 11-03-2023 05:58 AM

Re: Josh McDaniels as OC or offensive consultant?
 
Bill Belichick doesn't have a coaching tree. It's a cactus. Hard pass.

SmashMouth 11-03-2023 07:43 AM

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McDaniels was the beneficiary of Tom Brady. He probably runs back to NE for a new paycheck.

leilung 11-03-2023 10:29 AM

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Hard NO on this idea! This guy is an example of someone who was just in the right place at the right time. NE's success had very little to do with his football IQ.

4everSaint 11-03-2023 11:40 PM

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Heck no. If we really wanted to signal a tank, this would be the play.

I still want DA and Pete to fail. But I want it to be just them. No others to lay blame on.

Danno 11-04-2023 09:51 AM

Re: Josh McDaniels as OC or offensive consultant?
 
I wonder how everyone would feel if Allen and Pete won a playoff game this year, or perhaps made it to the NFCCG?

Keep or cut?

Crusader 11-05-2023 05:32 AM

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I'd rather get slapped in the face.




With a shovel.

AsylumGuido 11-05-2023 11:16 AM

Re: Josh McDaniels as OC or offensive consultant?
 
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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 984801)
I wonder how everyone would feel if Allen and Pete won a playoff game this year, or perhaps made it to the NFCCG?

Keep or cut?

It doesn't what any of us think, really. If we make the playoffs I'll bet you that both will return. Personally, I'd be okay with Carmichael being replaced, but I don't see it happening unless we make the playoffs with a losing record. And I don't see us winning less than nine.

Halo 11-06-2023 07:58 AM

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Players hate Josh McDaniels. Perhaps a consultant. He really only has success at New England with Belichick.

Rugby Saint II 11-09-2023 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 984828)
It doesn't what any of us think, really. If we make the playoffs I'll bet you that both will return. Personally, I'd be okay with Carmichael being replaced, but I don't see it happening unless we make the playoffs with a losing record. And I don't see us winning less than nine.

So, if Alen takes a well built team and finishes with a 9-8 record and a playoff win then should he get another chance at mediocrity? :no:

AsylumGuido 11-09-2023 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 985394)
So, if Alen takes a well built team and finishes with a 9-8 record and a playoff win then should he get another chance at mediocrity? :no:

It doesn't matter if he should or not. Nothing any of us can do about it. It doesn't bother me because I know I have no say in the decision one way or another. Worrying about something that I have no control over is a waste of my time and energy. All I can do is hope for the best and remain positive. Life is too short to stress over things that you cannot control.

:bng:

BakoSaint 11-09-2023 09:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 984801)
I wonder how everyone would feel if Allen and Pete won a playoff game this year, or perhaps made it to the NFCCG?

Keep or cut?

I would feel the same way if Allen made it to the NFCCG as if Adam Prentice led the NFL in total yards from scrimmage this season. It would be great and all, but when I say its not gonna happen, its not that I am rooting against Adam Prentice, its just not consistent with what I have seen of his abilities.

K Major 11-09-2023 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Halo (Post 985216)
Players hate Josh McDaniels. Perhaps a consultant. He really only has success at New England with Belichick.

Ain’t that the truth.

Looking at players in the locker room post game win last week, they had that “ding dong wicked witch is dead” excitement :p.

jnormand 11-09-2023 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 984801)
I wonder how everyone would feel if Allen and Pete won a playoff game this year, or perhaps made it to the NFCCG?

Keep or cut?

If he wins a playoff game, he is gonna get another season.

Makes it to the championship game? **** bro, I’ll buy underwear with his name on it.

iceshack149 11-10-2023 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 985408)
If he wins a playoff game, he is gonna get another season.

Makes it to the championship game? **** bro, I’ll buy underwear with his name on it.

Might make Guido jealous but he would be the one who knows how to get that underwear.

AsylumGuido 11-10-2023 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 985403)
I would feel the same way if Allen made it to the NFCCG as if Adam Prentice led the NFL in total yards from scrimmage this season. It would be great and all, but when I say its not gonna happen, its not that I am rooting against Adam Prentice, its just not consistent with what I have seen of his abilities.

Prentice isn't a RB. He's a FB. His primary job is blocking. He only has eight career carries and eight career targets. He has, however, caught seven of those eight targets.

Allen is, however, an actual head coach of a team leading their division with a good shot at making the playoffs. Making it to the NFC championship game is a realistic possibility.

AsylumGuido 11-10-2023 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 985413)
Might make Guido jealous but he would be the one who knows how to get that underwear.

Nope. No desire for individually branded underwear besides Brees. ;)

Rugby Saint II 11-10-2023 02:52 PM

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I wouldn't mind it if he came in as a consultant. He might have some good ideas, but I don't want him coaching in New Orleans.

Halo 11-12-2023 08:19 AM

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So long as he wasn't in charge of any players. A different take on the offense as an advisor would be fine by me.

Rugby Saint II 11-13-2023 02:12 PM

Re: Josh McDaniels as OC or offensive consultant?
 
My good rugby buddy is from Philly and we watch a lot of Eagles games together. I asked him about Brian Johnson for the Saints HC job next year and he said that the offense bogs down too often even with Hurts running the show. He believes that Johnson's not ready to run a team just yet. But then again, neither is Dennis Allen!

AsylumGuido 11-14-2023 10:36 AM

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iceshack149 11-14-2023 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 985992)

I wanted Antonio Pierce to coach for the Saints but I don't think the Raiders will let him walk.

BakoSaint 11-14-2023 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 985417)
Prentice isn't a RB. He's a FB. His primary job is blocking. He only has eight career carries and eight career targets. He has, however, caught seven of those eight targets.

Allen is, however, an actual head coach of a team leading their division with a good shot at making the playoffs. Making it to the NFC championship game is a realistic possibility.

Dennis Allen is only the actual head coach because some idiot looked at his 8-28 record with the Raiders and said lets hire that guy. This is not really any different than if an idiot had happened to see Adam Prentice's career average of 2.4 yards per carry and said lets make that guy our feature back and feed him 30 carries a game. 8-28 = 2.4ypc. Now can Prentice block, sure. Can DA coordinate a defense, sure. But promoting either beyond that is a mistake. Its just a matter of chance that we decided to make that mistake with DA not Prentice.

DA has us leading one of the weakest divisions in NFL history with one one of the weakest scheduled in NFL History with a .500 record bought with one of the most costly teams in NFL History in terms of the present and future dollars we have allocated, leading the league in 2024 money committed to win now in 2023. We may very well make the playoffs, but Kool Aid ain't gonna win us any playoff games unless Jim Jones is mixing it for all our opponents. We are 1 of 12 under DA against teams with a winning record. If we make the playoffs as division winner we will likely play only winning teams in the playoffs, such as the top wildcard like the Cowboys in Round 1 and a superior division winner in Round 2 like SF or Det. Our odds under DA are 1 in 12 in each of those games. So, if we make the playoffs, I would put our odds of playing in the NFC Championship game at 1 in 144.

AsylumGuido 11-15-2023 11:15 AM

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Papa Voodoo 11-15-2023 12:49 PM

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Maybe we luck up and get Cousins now that they have Dobbs.


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