What would it take to keep Dennis Allen

Crusader · 11-05-2023, 05:37 AM

If we make the playoffs and win a game or two I would find it hard to fire him. I don't see that we have a roster to really compete for the title, mainly because of our problems at O-line.

What I would factor in if I was the GM, is an important thing that we as fans sadly see little of, is if DA still has the lockerroom. Does the players support and want to play for him? If that isn't the case its time to clean house.

BakoSaint · 11-05-2023, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by Crusader

If we make the playoffs and win a game or two I would find it hard to fire him. I don't see that we have a roster to really compete for the title, mainly because of our problems at O-line.

What I would factor in if I was the GM, is an important thing that we as fans sadly see little of, is if DA still has the lockerroom. Does the players support and want to play for him? If that isn't the case its time to clean house.

A coach being liked and supported is one thing, but you also cant win the big games with a coach who plays the ‘cool parent.’ Ultimately whether they do it with a smile or fear, a good coach needs to be able to lay down the law and make needed changes happen, not be every players unjudging friend who covers for them no matter what. This is more of my fear with Allen and Carmichael. If a coach is afraid to make needed changes and lacks authority, what you can sometimes see if the apathetic players professing strong support while the driven players act out.

Rugby Saint II · 11-09-2023, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by Crusader

If we make the playoffs and win a game or two I would find it hard to fire him. I don't see that we have a roster to really compete for the title, mainly because of our problems at O-line.

What I would factor in if I was the GM, is an important thing that we as fans sadly see little of, is if DA still has the lockerroom. Does the players support and want to play for him? If that isn't the case its time to clean house.

No matter how this works out I'll be disappointed. I want my Saints to win but I desperately want Allen gone! My stomach is physically in knots about it. If the Saints lose every game there will at least be a silver lining. If the Saints win every game and win one playoff game, then we are likely stuck with this crappy coaching for another year. I'm ready to rip the Band-Aid off! No matter how much it hurts!

11-05-2023, 05:37 AM	#1
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,051	Re: What would it take to keep Dennis Allen If we make the playoffs and win a game or two I would find it hard to fire him. I don't see that we have a roster to really compete for the title, mainly because of our problems at O-line. What I would factor in if I was the GM, is an important thing that we as fans sadly see little of, is if DA still has the lockerroom. Does the players support and want to play for him? If that isn't the case its time to clean house. UK_WhoDat, jnormand and Rugby Saint II like this.

11-05-2023, 10:38 AM	#2
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,439	Re: What would it take to keep Dennis Allen Originally Posted by Crusader If we make the playoffs and win a game or two I would find it hard to fire him. I don't see that we have a roster to really compete for the title, mainly because of our problems at O-line. What I would factor in if I was the GM, is an important thing that we as fans sadly see little of, is if DA still has the lockerroom. Does the players support and want to play for him? If that isn't the case its time to clean house. A coach being liked and supported is one thing, but you also cant win the big games with a coach who plays the ‘cool parent.’ Ultimately whether they do it with a smile or fear, a good coach needs to be able to lay down the law and make needed changes happen, not be every players unjudging friend who covers for them no matter what. This is more of my fear with Allen and Carmichael. If a coach is afraid to make needed changes and lacks authority, what you can sometimes see if the apathetic players professing strong support while the driven players act out. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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11-09-2023, 12:27 PM	#3
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,200	Re: What would it take to keep Dennis Allen Originally Posted by Crusader If we make the playoffs and win a game or two I would find it hard to fire him. I don't see that we have a roster to really compete for the title, mainly because of our problems at O-line. What I would factor in if I was the GM, is an important thing that we as fans sadly see little of, is if DA still has the lockerroom. Does the players support and want to play for him? If that isn't the case its time to clean house. No matter how this works out I'll be disappointed. I want my Saints to win but I desperately want Allen gone! My stomach is physically in knots about it. If the Saints lose every game there will at least be a silver lining. If the Saints win every game and win one playoff game, then we are likely stuck with this crappy coaching for another year. I'm ready to rip the Band-Aid off! No matter how much it hurts!