Kenner PD called out to home of Saints Wide Receiver Michael Thomas

AsylumGuido · 11-11-2023, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Just when Thomas seemed to be getting his act together he pulls this crap.

This won't help him with a contract extension.

This is so trivial. Besides, his act was never not together.

Cruize · 11-11-2023, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

This is so trivial. Besides, his act was never not together.

Disagree. A grown man, in his position of privilege and wealth while playing in the NFL, has to be above things like this. It's most definitely not trivial. It's stupid. It's wrong. Actions like that can cost him
his career and more importantly his life. In regards to the Saints, it doesn't benefit them to cut him. But, with his diminished skills, which doesn't match his salary, he won't be with the team next year.

frydaddy · 11-11-2023, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by Cruize

Disagree. A grown man, in his position of privilege and wealth while playing in the NFL, has to be above things like this. It's most definitely not trivial. It's stupid. It's wrong. Actions like that can cost him
his career and more importantly his life. In regards to the Saints, it doesn't benefit them to cut him. But, with his diminished skills, which doesn't match his salary, he won't be with the team next year.

I dunno man. In the past I would've probably agreed with you, and I do agree that it was stupid and wrong. But I don't think any amount of privilege or wealth puts someone above just being human at the end of the day. I don't know all the details, but apparently this situation has been going on for a couple of weeks, and if I put myself in his shoes I can't honestly say that I wouldn't hit a breaking point and do something stupid and wrong. Nick Underhill mentioned that the construction worker was apparently showing people where Mike lives, and folks were wandering onto his property and looking in his car windows and things like that. I can almost guarantee I would've probably done something stupid in light of all that. I wish he wouldn't have, it would have been better if he hadn't, but I'm not gonna sit here and crucify the guy over it.

AsylumGuido · 11-12-2023, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by Cruize

Disagree. A grown man, in his position of privilege and wealth while playing in the NFL, has to be above things like this. It's most definitely not trivial. It's stupid. It's wrong. Actions like that can cost him
his career and more importantly his life. In regards to the Saints, it doesn't benefit them to cut him. But, with his diminished skills, which doesn't match his salary, he won't be with the team next year.

You do realize that Thomas' contract was reworked and is incentive based, right? His salary matches exactly what he provides because one is dependent upon the other.

BakoSaint · 11-12-2023, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

You do realize that Thomas' contract was reworked and is incentive based, right? His salary matches exactly what he provides because one is dependent upon the other.

I would love a salary like that. Just give me $10 million a year straight up and then kick in a few million or not depending on my performance. That way it will exactly match what I provide.

The question is, how much more than $10 million a year is 49 yards a game and 2 TD season total pace worth?

The fact is, Thomas's contract is not incentive based, it simply includes incentives. Incentives based would be a league minimum or close base salary with everything dependent on incentives. The fact is, Thomas' salary is 70% base salary (converted to signing bonus). He gets $10 million no matter what. It is 30% incentives which is hardly incentives based, just a cherry on top. And those incentives are just for being active, not elite. Thomas is set to earn about $14 million this year for showing up and hauling in 50 yards a game with sparse TDs on a mediocre team. He is showing up, but his performance is is not meeting his paycheck. At this point in his career he is more of a player who should be earning $5 million base salary plus incentives that don't bring his salary above $8 million total unless he is actually putting up #1 WR numbers. Nobody needs to be paying over $10 million a year for an aging injury prone #2/3 caliber receiver. I don't really have concerns about Thomas' attitude but he is producing like an $8 million a year receiver this year and being paid almost double that.

AsylumGuido · 11-12-2023, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

I would love a salary like that. Just give me $10 million a year straight up and then kick in a few million or not depending on my performance. That way it will exactly match what I provide.

The question is, how much more than $10 million a year is 49 yards a game and 2 TD season total pace worth?

The fact is, Thomas's contract is not incentive based, it simply includes incentives. Incentives based would be a league minimum or close base salary with everything dependent on incentives. The fact is, Thomas' salary is 70% base salary (converted to signing bonus). He gets $10 million no matter what. It is 30% incentives which is hardly incentives based, just a cherry on top. And those incentives are just for being active, not elite. Thomas is set to earn about $14 million this year for showing up and hauling in 50 yards a game with sparse TDs on a mediocre team. He is showing up, but his performance is is not meeting his paycheck. At this point in his career he is more of a player who should be earning $5 million base salary plus incentives that don't bring his salary above $8 million total unless he is actually putting up #1 WR numbers. Nobody needs to be paying over $10 million a year for an aging injury prone #2/3 caliber receiver. I don't really have concerns about Thomas' attitude but he is producing like an $8 million a year receiver this year and being paid almost double that.

*Yawn*

mapcow · 11-12-2023, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

*Yawn*

...all moot. You boy #13 hurt and back on bench. wasted money.

mapcow · 11-12-2023, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

You do realize that Thomas' contract was reworked and is incentive based, right? His salary matches exactly what he provides because one is dependent upon the other.

cut bait.... ahhppp too late. He hurt again. More suffering for the Saints

mapcow · 11-12-2023, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

This is so trivial. Besides, his act was never not together.

The JAG has just lowered his status. LMAO

11-11-2023, 06:35 PM	#2
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,467	Re: Kenner PD called out to home of Saints Wide Receiver Michael Thomas Originally Posted by AsylumGuido This is so trivial. Besides, his act was never not together. Disagree. A grown man, in his position of privilege and wealth while playing in the NFL, has to be above things like this. It's most definitely not trivial. It's stupid. It's wrong. Actions like that can cost him his career and more importantly his life. In regards to the Saints, it doesn't benefit them to cut him. But, with his diminished skills, which doesn't match his salary, he won't be with the team next year. jnormand likes this.
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11-11-2023, 10:00 PM	#3
frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,964 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Kenner PD called out to home of Saints Wide Receiver Michael Thomas Originally Posted by Cruize Disagree. A grown man, in his position of privilege and wealth while playing in the NFL, has to be above things like this. It's most definitely not trivial. It's stupid. It's wrong. Actions like that can cost him his career and more importantly his life. In regards to the Saints, it doesn't benefit them to cut him. But, with his diminished skills, which doesn't match his salary, he won't be with the team next year. I dunno man. In the past I would've probably agreed with you, and I do agree that it was stupid and wrong. But I don't think any amount of privilege or wealth puts someone above just being human at the end of the day. I don't know all the details, but apparently this situation has been going on for a couple of weeks, and if I put myself in his shoes I can't honestly say that I wouldn't hit a breaking point and do something stupid and wrong. Nick Underhill mentioned that the construction worker was apparently showing people where Mike lives, and folks were wandering onto his property and looking in his car windows and things like that. I can almost guarantee I would've probably done something stupid in light of all that. I wish he wouldn't have, it would have been better if he hadn't, but I'm not gonna sit here and crucify the guy over it. jnormand, leilung and AsylumGuido like this.
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11-12-2023, 11:53 AM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Kenner PD called out to home of Saints Wide Receiver Michael Thomas Originally Posted by Cruize Disagree. A grown man, in his position of privilege and wealth while playing in the NFL, has to be above things like this. It's most definitely not trivial. It's stupid. It's wrong. Actions like that can cost him his career and more importantly his life. In regards to the Saints, it doesn't benefit them to cut him. But, with his diminished skills, which doesn't match his salary, he won't be with the team next year. You do realize that Thomas' contract was reworked and is incentive based, right? His salary matches exactly what he provides because one is dependent upon the other.

11-12-2023, 12:53 PM	#5
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,383	Re: Kenner PD called out to home of Saints Wide Receiver Michael Thomas Originally Posted by AsylumGuido You do realize that Thomas' contract was reworked and is incentive based, right? His salary matches exactly what he provides because one is dependent upon the other. I would love a salary like that. Just give me $10 million a year straight up and then kick in a few million or not depending on my performance. That way it will exactly match what I provide. The question is, how much more than $10 million a year is 49 yards a game and 2 TD season total pace worth? The fact is, Thomas's contract is not incentive based, it simply includes incentives. Incentives based would be a league minimum or close base salary with everything dependent on incentives. The fact is, Thomas' salary is 70% base salary (converted to signing bonus). He gets $10 million no matter what. It is 30% incentives which is hardly incentives based, just a cherry on top. And those incentives are just for being active, not elite. Thomas is set to earn about $14 million this year for showing up and hauling in 50 yards a game with sparse TDs on a mediocre team. He is showing up, but his performance is is not meeting his paycheck. At this point in his career he is more of a player who should be earning $5 million base salary plus incentives that don't bring his salary above $8 million total unless he is actually putting up #1 WR numbers. Nobody needs to be paying over $10 million a year for an aging injury prone #2/3 caliber receiver. I don't really have concerns about Thomas' attitude but he is producing like an $8 million a year receiver this year and being paid almost double that.
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11-12-2023, 01:08 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Kenner PD called out to home of Saints Wide Receiver Michael Thomas Originally Posted by BakoSaint I would love a salary like that. Just give me $10 million a year straight up and then kick in a few million or not depending on my performance. That way it will exactly match what I provide. The question is, how much more than $10 million a year is 49 yards a game and 2 TD season total pace worth? The fact is, Thomas's contract is not incentive based, it simply includes incentives. Incentives based would be a league minimum or close base salary with everything dependent on incentives. The fact is, Thomas' salary is 70% base salary (converted to signing bonus). He gets $10 million no matter what. It is 30% incentives which is hardly incentives based, just a cherry on top. And those incentives are just for being active, not elite. Thomas is set to earn about $14 million this year for showing up and hauling in 50 yards a game with sparse TDs on a mediocre team. He is showing up, but his performance is is not meeting his paycheck. At this point in his career he is more of a player who should be earning $5 million base salary plus incentives that don't bring his salary above $8 million total unless he is actually putting up #1 WR numbers. Nobody needs to be paying over $10 million a year for an aging injury prone #2/3 caliber receiver. I don't really have concerns about Thomas' attitude but he is producing like an $8 million a year receiver this year and being paid almost double that. Yawn

11-11-2023, 12:57 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Kenner PD called out to home of Saints Wide Receiver Michael Thomas Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Just when Thomas seemed to be getting his act together he pulls this crap. This won't help him with a contract extension. This is so trivial. Besides, his act was never not together.

11-12-2023, 01:32 PM	#7
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,818	Re: Kenner PD called out to home of Saints Wide Receiver Michael Thomas Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yawn ...all moot. You boy #13 hurt and back on bench. wasted money.
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11-12-2023, 12:59 PM	#8
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,818	Re: Kenner PD called out to home of Saints Wide Receiver Michael Thomas Originally Posted by AsylumGuido You do realize that Thomas' contract was reworked and is incentive based, right? His salary matches exactly what he provides because one is dependent upon the other. cut bait.... ahhppp too late. He hurt again. More suffering for the Saints
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11-12-2023, 09:39 AM	#9
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,818	Re: Kenner PD called out to home of Saints Wide Receiver Michael Thomas Originally Posted by AsylumGuido This is so trivial. Besides, his act was never not together. The JAG has just lowered his status. LMAO
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