OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO VIKINGS (Halftime Edition)

AsylumGuido · 11-16-2023, 09:53 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

I had season tickets for over 20 years. I moved across the country but my dad is still in New Orleans. I moved to Houston after about 10 years as a season ticket holder but my dad was still in New Orleans and I still kept the tickets and I flew or drove in for most of the games. When I moved to California after 4 years in Houston we kept the tickets for some 7 more years and I flew back for games when I could, my dad went to some games, we gave some to friends and family, and we sold some. I was in the dome for the No Call game. After that crushing BS, and having a kid where it got harder to travel, and the Saints struggles that made it harder to sell the tickets to games none of us could attend, we finally decided to drop the tickets. My dad was getting older and often preferred to avoid the cars and traffic and just watch on his big screen, and it was so hard for me to travel much with a young child who had grandparents in 3 different states. It became easier for me to just buy tickets to a game if we visited.

I know what its like to have season tickets. I just didn't wait 15 years for them. I walked up with a credit card when we were talking about drafting Ricky Williams and Ditka was coach. I stayed until Goodell proved it was half rigged anyway. There are a lot of fans whose patience with Dennis Allen may be limited, and at some point if he is the next Ditka, there will be no waiting list and they will be able to walk back up and buy tickets when he is fired.

There's still a huge waiting list. Everyone should know success is cyclical. The list was 50,000 long when we joined. It's still quite long from the last I heard. Tens of thousands of ticket hopeful aren't going to drop out just because of yours and Alonso's hatred of Dennis Allen. The days of walking up with a credit card and getting them just like that are history.

Think of another way to battle that fictional enemy.

Sinner · 11-16-2023, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

There's still a huge waiting list. Everyone should know success is cyclical. The list was 50,000 long when we joined. It's still quite long from the last I heard. Tens of thousands of ticket hopeful aren't going to drop out just because of yours and Alonso's hatred of Dennis Allen. The days of walking up with a credit card and getting them just like that are history.

Think of another way to battle that fictional enemy.

See, what you describe as a fictional enemy, is a mismanaged and poorly coached team that performs so unsatisfactorily, they might be the only team in the history of the game that could lead a division in such an unsatisfactory and unsavory manner, that loyal fans could be feeling so yucky at this point. The fact that you enjoy this so much, speaks volumes to your masochism. The fact that you see it as fictional, speaks volumes about your disconnection from reality.

BakoSaint · 11-16-2023, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

There's still a huge waiting list. Everyone should know success is cyclical. The list was 50,000 long when we joined. It's still quite long from the last I heard. Tens of thousands of ticket hopeful aren't going to drop out just because of yours and Alonso's hatred of Dennis Allen. The days of walking up with a credit card and getting them just like that are history.

Think of another way to battle that fictional enemy.

What does it cost to join the waiting list? I am guessing nothing, or a trivial amount. Its basically a free option until they call and say your up, what's your credit card number. There is probably no reason for various scalpers or whoever not to join the waiting list. Heck maybe I should join it. Worst case, they call in 5 years when Dennis Allen is still head coach and is setting all time loss records and I hang up and then a week later add my name back to the end of the list. Best case, they call the day after Arch Manning leads us to a perfect season and I fly in for 4 games and sell the other 5 games to pay for the flights and season tickets. The point is, there is no reason not to be on a waiting list, its basically free, and it just gives you options. But the problem comes if we suck and they call their way through the list and can't sell all the seasons. Then there is no waiting list. And then when you call to say put down my name, they say ok give us a credit card and we charge $5000 today. Most fans and all scalpers will say no. Certain better value seat locations will sell, but lousier ones will go unsold. Suddenly there is no list.

Imagine we win the division at 9-8 this year but get blown out 38-3 by the Cowboys at home in the first round. Then retain Dennis Allen and play a first place schedule next year including playing the entire NFC North and go 5-12 but decide to retain Dennis Allen while bringing elevating Curry to OC for 2025. You could easily start seeing 5,000 people a year cancelling their season tickets and only 1 in 5 dropping the credit card down when they get the call on the wait list. Suddenly that wait list is gone quick even if it is 50,000. And also, what if 1/2 or 2/3 of the waiting list is scalpers? Suddenly it could only be 1 of 10 or 15 who drop the credit card when there is no profit to be made, and the waiting list is gone quick.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 11-17-2023, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Imagine we win the division at 9-8 this year but get blown out 38-3 by the Cowboys at home in the first round. Then retain Dennis Allen and play a first place schedule next year including playing the entire NFC North and go 5-12 but decide to retain Dennis Allen while bringing elevating Curry to OC for 2025.

Next year's schedule is going to be pretty brutal. It's the AFC West and the NFC East. In addition the 17th game is the AFC North. Presume that we win the South, that will guarantee the first place finishers in the NFC and the AFC North along with those two divisions.

And as of this second it would be the Seahawks in the playoffs, not the Cowgirls.

SFIAH

11-16-2023, 09:53 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,676	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO VIKINGS (Halftime Edition) Originally Posted by BakoSaint I had season tickets for over 20 years. I moved across the country but my dad is still in New Orleans. I moved to Houston after about 10 years as a season ticket holder but my dad was still in New Orleans and I still kept the tickets and I flew or drove in for most of the games. When I moved to California after 4 years in Houston we kept the tickets for some 7 more years and I flew back for games when I could, my dad went to some games, we gave some to friends and family, and we sold some. I was in the dome for the No Call game. After that crushing BS, and having a kid where it got harder to travel, and the Saints struggles that made it harder to sell the tickets to games none of us could attend, we finally decided to drop the tickets. My dad was getting older and often preferred to avoid the cars and traffic and just watch on his big screen, and it was so hard for me to travel much with a young child who had grandparents in 3 different states. It became easier for me to just buy tickets to a game if we visited. I know what its like to have season tickets. I just didn't wait 15 years for them. I walked up with a credit card when we were talking about drafting Ricky Williams and Ditka was coach. I stayed until Goodell proved it was half rigged anyway. There are a lot of fans whose patience with Dennis Allen may be limited, and at some point if he is the next Ditka, there will be no waiting list and they will be able to walk back up and buy tickets when he is fired. There's still a huge waiting list. Everyone should know success is cyclical. The list was 50,000 long when we joined. It's still quite long from the last I heard. Tens of thousands of ticket hopeful aren't going to drop out just because of yours and Alonso's hatred of Dennis Allen. The days of walking up with a credit card and getting them just like that are history. Think of another way to battle that fictional enemy.

11-16-2023, 10:02 PM	#2
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,072	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO VIKINGS (Halftime Edition) Originally Posted by AsylumGuido There's still a huge waiting list. Everyone should know success is cyclical. The list was 50,000 long when we joined. It's still quite long from the last I heard. Tens of thousands of ticket hopeful aren't going to drop out just because of yours and Alonso's hatred of Dennis Allen. The days of walking up with a credit card and getting them just like that are history. Think of another way to battle that fictional enemy. See, what you describe as a fictional enemy, is a mismanaged and poorly coached team that performs so unsatisfactorily, they might be the only team in the history of the game that could lead a division in such an unsatisfactory and unsavory manner, that loyal fans could be feeling so yucky at this point. The fact that you enjoy this so much, speaks volumes to your masochism. The fact that you see it as fictional, speaks volumes about your disconnection from reality.
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11-16-2023, 10:25 PM	#3
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,400	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO VIKINGS (Halftime Edition) Originally Posted by AsylumGuido There's still a huge waiting list. Everyone should know success is cyclical. The list was 50,000 long when we joined. It's still quite long from the last I heard. Tens of thousands of ticket hopeful aren't going to drop out just because of yours and Alonso's hatred of Dennis Allen. The days of walking up with a credit card and getting them just like that are history. Think of another way to battle that fictional enemy. What does it cost to join the waiting list? I am guessing nothing, or a trivial amount. Its basically a free option until they call and say your up, what's your credit card number. There is probably no reason for various scalpers or whoever not to join the waiting list. Heck maybe I should join it. Worst case, they call in 5 years when Dennis Allen is still head coach and is setting all time loss records and I hang up and then a week later add my name back to the end of the list. Best case, they call the day after Arch Manning leads us to a perfect season and I fly in for 4 games and sell the other 5 games to pay for the flights and season tickets. The point is, there is no reason not to be on a waiting list, its basically free, and it just gives you options. But the problem comes if we suck and they call their way through the list and can't sell all the seasons. Then there is no waiting list. And then when you call to say put down my name, they say ok give us a credit card and we charge $5000 today. Most fans and all scalpers will say no. Certain better value seat locations will sell, but lousier ones will go unsold. Suddenly there is no list. Imagine we win the division at 9-8 this year but get blown out 38-3 by the Cowboys at home in the first round. Then retain Dennis Allen and play a first place schedule next year including playing the entire NFC North and go 5-12 but decide to retain Dennis Allen while bringing elevating Curry to OC for 2025. You could easily start seeing 5,000 people a year cancelling their season tickets and only 1 in 5 dropping the credit card down when they get the call on the wait list. Suddenly that wait list is gone quick even if it is 50,000. And also, what if 1/2 or 2/3 of the waiting list is scalpers? Suddenly it could only be 1 of 10 or 15 who drop the credit card when there is no profit to be made, and the waiting list is gone quick. Sinner likes this.
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11-17-2023, 03:58 PM	#4
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,783	Re: OBSERVATIONS FROM THE SAINTS LOSS TO VIKINGS (Halftime Edition) Originally Posted by BakoSaint Imagine we win the division at 9-8 this year but get blown out 38-3 by the Cowboys at home in the first round. Then retain Dennis Allen and play a first place schedule next year including playing the entire NFC North and go 5-12 but decide to retain Dennis Allen while bringing elevating Curry to OC for 2025. Next year's schedule is going to be pretty brutal. It's the AFC West and the NFC East. In addition the 17th game is the AFC North. Presume that we win the South, that will guarantee the first place finishers in the NFC and the AFC North along with those two divisions. And as of this second it would be the Seahawks in the playoffs, not the Cowgirls. SFIAH Rugby Saint II likes this.