Pete Carmichael analytics show you something.

SmashMouth · 11-16-2023, 07:18 AM

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MatthewT · 11-16-2023, 07:39 AM

Dorsey had to take the fall for that turnover machine named Josh Allen. Not really a surprise to see Pete at the bottom of the list, plenty of blame to go around for that. Coaching, bad contracts, player performance, etc...

K Major · 11-16-2023, 08:39 AM

But look who is #32 … dead last signal caller 💀, hanging out with other bottom feeders (Giants, Falcons, Raiders, Patriots).

And the Saints refuse to make any changes during the bye week.

Front office is asleep at the wheel.

AsylumGuido · 11-16-2023, 09:31 AM

I know that many will not agree with this perspective, but it does ring true.

Mr.Riaton · 11-16-2023, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I know that many will not agree with this perspective, but it does ring true.

https://twitter.com/nick_underhill/s...64702538322092

You’re right, I don’t agree, however I do agree with the individuals response to Nick though

leilung · 11-16-2023, 12:40 PM

Where is this chart sourced? Just curious as to the stats used.

Rugby Saint II · 11-16-2023, 12:45 PM

Carmichael is in way over his head without Sean Payton.

iceshack149 · 11-16-2023, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Carmichael is in way over his head without Sean Payton.

Weird, right? You'd think that a guy that spends over a decade with Payton would understand his concepts like the back of his hand.
I really do think that the main issue is the guys in charge of calling the plays. Neither DA nor Pete have the alpha male presence. They both may be smart as a whip but young men in their prime don't want to work hard for a beta.

neugey · 11-16-2023, 03:57 PM

I'm not a huge fan of using analytics to vet coaches, but if it helps get closer to the obvious conclusion that Carmichael is a hack then I'm good.

BakoSaint · 11-16-2023, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

Weird, right? You'd think that a guy that spends over a decade with Payton would understand his concepts like the back of his hand.
I really do think that the main issue is the guys in charge of calling the plays. Neither DA nor Pete have the alpha male presence. They both may be smart as a whip but young men in their prime don't want to work hard for a beta.

Pete Carmichael understands the concepts of how Sean Payton likes his coffee like the back of his hand.

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MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,706	Re: Pete Carmichael analytics show you something. Dorsey had to take the fall for that turnover machine named Josh Allen. Not really a surprise to see Pete at the bottom of the list, plenty of blame to go around for that. Coaching, bad contracts, player performance, etc... neugey and Rugby Saint II like this.

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Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,254	Re: Pete Carmichael analytics show you something. Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I know that many will not agree with this perspective, but it does ring true. https://twitter.com/nick_underhill/s...64702538322092 You’re right, I don’t agree, however I do agree with the individuals response to Nick though Rugby Saint II likes this.

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11-16-2023, 08:39 AM	#3
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,060 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Pete Carmichael analytics show you something. But look who is #32 … dead last signal caller 💀, hanging out with other bottom feeders (Giants, Falcons, Raiders, Patriots). And the Saints refuse to make any changes during the bye week. Front office is asleep at the wheel. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,093 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Pete Carmichael analytics show you something. Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Carmichael is in way over his head without Sean Payton. Weird, right? You'd think that a guy that spends over a decade with Payton would understand his concepts like the back of his hand. I really do think that the main issue is the guys in charge of calling the plays. Neither DA nor Pete have the alpha male presence. They both may be smart as a whip but young men in their prime don't want to work hard for a beta. SmashMouth, Rugby Saint II and K Major like this.

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neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,606 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Pete Carmichael analytics show you something. I'm not a huge fan of using analytics to vet coaches, but if it helps get closer to the obvious conclusion that Carmichael is a hack then I'm good. SmashMouth and K Major like this.

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BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 1,765	Re: Pete Carmichael analytics show you something. Originally Posted by iceshack149 Weird, right? You'd think that a guy that spends over a decade with Payton would understand his concepts like the back of his hand. I really do think that the main issue is the guys in charge of calling the plays. Neither DA nor Pete have the alpha male presence. They both may be smart as a whip but young men in their prime don't want to work hard for a beta. Pete Carmichael understands the concepts of how Sean Payton likes his coffee like the back of his hand. SmashMouth likes this.
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