Why Your Team Sucks 2023: New Orleans Saints

Rugby Saint II · 11-17-2023, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by jnormand

That was…pretty negative. Lol

Well. To be honest, there isn't much to be positive about from this **** show. Dennis Allen has recreated the roster and the coaching staff he had with the Raiders, yet he can't figure out what is going wrong. Here are the best quotes from his pressers this year. "We've got some things to figure out", "just keep doing what you're doing", and the standard answer that "we'll look at the film". Loomis won't fire him this offseason and unfortunately, Dennis Allen will have another year to run this team further in the ground. Carmichael will be gone at the end of the season and then he will be replaced with another Dennis Allen lackey.

It's getting harder and harder to be a Saints fan.

AsylumGuido · 11-17-2023, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Well. To be honest, there isn't much to be positive about from this **** show. Dennis Allen has recreated the roster and the coaching staff he had with the Raiders, yet he can't figure out what is going wrong. Here are the best quotes from his pressers this year. "We've got some things to figure out", "just keep doing what you're doing", and the standard answer that "we'll look at the film". Loomis won't fire him this offseason and unfortunately, Dennis Allen will have another year to run this team further in the ground. Carmichael will be gone at the end of the season and then he will be replaced with another Dennis Allen lackey.

It's getting harder and harder to be a Saints fan.

It's easy for me to be a Saints fan. It's what I am. My loyalty is not affected by wins or losses at all.

By the way, I just picked up a very cool Saints jacket that I have never seen before at an estate sale! Very excited!

Rugby Saint II · 11-18-2023, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

It's easy for me to be a Saints fan. It's what I am. My loyalty is not affected by wins or losses at all.

By the way, I just picked up a very cool Saints jacket that I have never seen before at an estate sale! Very excited!

Let me be clear Guido! My loyalty is not affected by wins and losses, but it is affected by how well/poorly the team is run. Right now, the team is being run into the ground and fans aren't happy about it...except for maybe you. Pumping sunshine doesn't fix the Saints problems. Letting the team know that status quo is unacceptable is our best option at this point.

I just don't understand why you don't feel the need to make this Saints team know just how deeply unsatisfied most fans are with this **** show. If we continue to buy gear and go to games then how do we get our message across to an obviously stubborn front office? How do we send a message to the front office that just keep doing what you're doing if we don't hit them in the pocket book?

BakoSaint · 11-18-2023, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Let me be clear Guido! My loyalty is not affected by wins and losses, but it is affected by how well/poorly the team is run. Right now, the team is being run into the ground and fans aren't happy about it...except for maybe you. Pumping sunshine doesn't fix the Saints problems. Letting the team know that status quo is unacceptable is our best option at this point.

I just don't understand why you don't feel the need to make this Saints team know just how deeply unsatisfied most fans are with this **** show. If we continue to buy gear and go to games then how do we get our message across to an obviously stubborn front office? How do we send a message to the front office that just keep doing what you're doing if we don't hit them in the pocket book?

Ironically, if we buy gently used gear the Saints won't profit and that will send the same message as not buying gear.

AsylumGuido · 11-18-2023, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

Ironically, if we buy gently used gear the Saints won't profit and that will send the same message as not buying gear.

The Saints are going to profit the same basically regardless of whether any of their gear is sold or not. Merchandise sales are shared equally among ALL 32 teams.

NFL Economics: How Do NFL Teams Make Money?

"The league negotiates national merchandise, licensing, and TV contracts, which make up most of the national revenue. The 32 teams receive equal shares of this money, regardless of individual team performance. The teams generate local income through concession sales, ticket sales, and corporate sponsors."

A percentage of the locally generated revenue is also shared amongst the whole league, as well. This model guarantees the fiscal viability of all teams regardless of performance.

AsylumGuido · 11-18-2023, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Let me be clear Guido! My loyalty is not affected by wins and losses, but it is affected by how well/poorly the team is run. Right now, the team is being run into the ground and fans aren't happy about it...except for maybe you. Pumping sunshine doesn't fix the Saints problems. Letting the team know that status quo is unacceptable is our best option at this point.

I just don't understand why you don't feel the need to make this Saints team know just how deeply unsatisfied most fans are with this **** show. If we continue to buy gear and go to games then how do we get our message across to an obviously stubborn front office? How do we send a message to the front office that just keep doing what you're doing if we don't hit them in the pocket book?

I'll leave that to others. I refuse to give up something I love like going to games, mismanaged or not, and buying new Saints gear whenever possible. I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels that way given the Black & Gold shop is always packed to the gills with people buying gear. I'm not giving up anything for anyone.

11-17-2023, 12:23 PM	#1
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,148	Re: Why Your Team Sucks 2023: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by jnormand That was…pretty negative. Lol Well. To be honest, there isn't much to be positive about from this **** show. Dennis Allen has recreated the roster and the coaching staff he had with the Raiders, yet he can't figure out what is going wrong. Here are the best quotes from his pressers this year. "We've got some things to figure out", "just keep doing what you're doing", and the standard answer that "we'll look at the film". Loomis won't fire him this offseason and unfortunately, Dennis Allen will have another year to run this team further in the ground. Carmichael will be gone at the end of the season and then he will be replaced with another Dennis Allen lackey. It's getting harder and harder to be a Saints fan. jnormand and Sinner like this.
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11-17-2023, 04:34 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Why Your Team Sucks 2023: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Well. To be honest, there isn't much to be positive about from this **** show. Dennis Allen has recreated the roster and the coaching staff he had with the Raiders, yet he can't figure out what is going wrong. Here are the best quotes from his pressers this year. "We've got some things to figure out", "just keep doing what you're doing", and the standard answer that "we'll look at the film". Loomis won't fire him this offseason and unfortunately, Dennis Allen will have another year to run this team further in the ground. Carmichael will be gone at the end of the season and then he will be replaced with another Dennis Allen lackey. It's getting harder and harder to be a Saints fan. It's easy for me to be a Saints fan. It's what I am. My loyalty is not affected by wins or losses at all. By the way, I just picked up a very cool Saints jacket that I have never seen before at an estate sale! Very excited!

11-18-2023, 01:26 PM	#3
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,148	Re: Why Your Team Sucks 2023: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido It's easy for me to be a Saints fan. It's what I am. My loyalty is not affected by wins or losses at all. By the way, I just picked up a very cool Saints jacket that I have never seen before at an estate sale! Very excited! Let me be clear Guido! My loyalty is not affected by wins and losses, but it is affected by how well/poorly the team is run. Right now, the team is being run into the ground and fans aren't happy about it...except for maybe you. Pumping sunshine doesn't fix the Saints problems. Letting the team know that status quo is unacceptable is our best option at this point. I just don't understand why you don't feel the need to make this Saints team know just how deeply unsatisfied most fans are with this **** show. If we continue to buy gear and go to games then how do we get our message across to an obviously stubborn front office? How do we send a message to the front office that just keep doing what you're doing if we don't hit them in the pocket book?
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11-18-2023, 01:32 PM	#4
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,385	Re: Why Your Team Sucks 2023: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Let me be clear Guido! My loyalty is not affected by wins and losses, but it is affected by how well/poorly the team is run. Right now, the team is being run into the ground and fans aren't happy about it...except for maybe you. Pumping sunshine doesn't fix the Saints problems. Letting the team know that status quo is unacceptable is our best option at this point. I just don't understand why you don't feel the need to make this Saints team know just how deeply unsatisfied most fans are with this **** show. If we continue to buy gear and go to games then how do we get our message across to an obviously stubborn front office? How do we send a message to the front office that just keep doing what you're doing if we don't hit them in the pocket book? Ironically, if we buy gently used gear the Saints won't profit and that will send the same message as not buying gear. jnormand likes this.
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11-18-2023, 01:52 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Why Your Team Sucks 2023: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by BakoSaint Ironically, if we buy gently used gear the Saints won't profit and that will send the same message as not buying gear. The Saints are going to profit the same basically regardless of whether any of their gear is sold or not. Merchandise sales are shared equally among ALL 32 teams. NFL Economics: How Do NFL Teams Make Money? "The league negotiates national merchandise, licensing, and TV contracts, which make up most of the national revenue. The 32 teams receive equal shares of this money, regardless of individual team performance. The teams generate local income through concession sales, ticket sales, and corporate sponsors." A percentage of the locally generated revenue is also shared amongst the whole league, as well. This model guarantees the fiscal viability of all teams regardless of performance.
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11-18-2023, 01:47 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,622	Re: Why Your Team Sucks 2023: New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Let me be clear Guido! My loyalty is not affected by wins and losses, but it is affected by how well/poorly the team is run. Right now, the team is being run into the ground and fans aren't happy about it...except for maybe you. Pumping sunshine doesn't fix the Saints problems. Letting the team know that status quo is unacceptable is our best option at this point. I just don't understand why you don't feel the need to make this Saints team know just how deeply unsatisfied most fans are with this **** show. If we continue to buy gear and go to games then how do we get our message across to an obviously stubborn front office? How do we send a message to the front office that just keep doing what you're doing if we don't hit them in the pocket book? I'll leave that to others. I refuse to give up something I love like going to games, mismanaged or not, and buying new Saints gear whenever possible. I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels that way given the Black & Gold shop is always packed to the gills with people buying gear. I'm not giving up anything for anyone.