Clean house now

neugey · 12-15-2023, 10:58 AM

Kind of feeling envious of the Chargers today in that I wish we could get some of the national disdain for Allen that Staley is getting.

K Major · 12-15-2023, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by neugey

Kind of feeling envious of the Chargers today in that I wish we could get some of the national disdain for Allen that Staley is getting.

Let’s hope (at least most of us here) the Saints front office aren't put into the position to make the same mistake the Chargers made last year, when they kept Brandon Staley despite the writing being clearly written on the wall.

“Run it back” with this inept coaching staff for what?

Firing Pete in the off season is the easy out. Saints issues are far greater than just the OC.

iceshack149 · 12-15-2023, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Let’s hope (at least most of us here) the Saints front office aren't put into the position to make the same mistake the Chargers made last year, when they kept Brandon Staley despite the writing being clearly written on the wall.

“Run it back” with this inept coaching staff for what?

Firing Pete in the off season is the easy out. Saints issues are far greater than just the OC.

Loomis and Benson have to know that their investors want big changes. That makes these decisions a matter of investment. If Dennis Allen returns the team will likely lose a lot of money.

AsylumGuido · 12-15-2023, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by iceshack149

Loomis and Benson have to know that their investors want big changes. That makes these decisions a matter of investment. If Dennis Allen returns the team will likely lose a lot of money.

Who are these investors that are putting "a lot of money" into the Saints coffers?

All but a small percentage of revenues are shared in the NFL. The model was designed such that any individual franchise cannot suffer financially. The vast majority of league revenues come through the broadcast deals. Those are guaranteed for almost the next decade and are split evenly amongst teams. A portion of a team's ticket sales are kept within house, but the remainder are also shared evenly amongst all franchises. Therefore, even the least attended still get a sizable portion of ticket revenues. Most established franchises (including the Saints) are guaranteed sellouts for years to come. Merchandise is also shared evenly across all franchises. The only revenue source that belongs to the individual franchise is concessions which, on the whole, is a very small percentage of total income.

This is why even the worst of franchises are setting records for sales price when transferred to new owners.

Believe me, money is not an incentive for change in any individual NFL franchise. Pride, yes. Money, no. The league model has that well in hand.

Rugby Saint II · 12-16-2023, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Let’s hope (at least most of us here) the Saints front office aren't put into the position to make the same mistake the Chargers made last year, when they kept Brandon Staley despite the writing being clearly written on the wall.

“Run it back” with this inept coaching staff for what?

Firing Pete in the off season is the easy out. Saints issues are far greater than just the OC.

My crystal ball says that DA will get fired later in the season.....next year.

12-15-2023, 10:58 AM	#1
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,820 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Clean house now Kind of feeling envious of the Chargers today in that I wish we could get some of the national disdain for Allen that Staley is getting. Rugby Saint II likes this.

12-15-2023, 12:02 PM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,739 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Clean house now Originally Posted by neugey Kind of feeling envious of the Chargers today in that I wish we could get some of the national disdain for Allen that Staley is getting. Let’s hope (at least most of us here) the Saints front office aren't put into the position to make the same mistake the Chargers made last year, when they kept Brandon Staley despite the writing being clearly written on the wall. “Run it back” with this inept coaching staff for what? Firing Pete in the off season is the easy out. Saints issues are far greater than just the OC. Rugby Saint II and Sinner like this.

12-15-2023, 04:10 PM	#3
iceshack149 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Fairbanks, AK Posts: 4,336 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Clean house now Originally Posted by K Major Let’s hope (at least most of us here) the Saints front office aren't put into the position to make the same mistake the Chargers made last year, when they kept Brandon Staley despite the writing being clearly written on the wall. “Run it back” with this inept coaching staff for what? Firing Pete in the off season is the easy out. Saints issues are far greater than just the OC. Loomis and Benson have to know that their investors want big changes. That makes these decisions a matter of investment. If Dennis Allen returns the team will likely lose a lot of money.

12-15-2023, 05:07 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,484	Re: Clean house now Originally Posted by iceshack149 Loomis and Benson have to know that their investors want big changes. That makes these decisions a matter of investment. If Dennis Allen returns the team will likely lose a lot of money. Who are these investors that are putting "a lot of money" into the Saints coffers? All but a small percentage of revenues are shared in the NFL. The model was designed such that any individual franchise cannot suffer financially. The vast majority of league revenues come through the broadcast deals. Those are guaranteed for almost the next decade and are split evenly amongst teams. A portion of a team's ticket sales are kept within house, but the remainder are also shared evenly amongst all franchises. Therefore, even the least attended still get a sizable portion of ticket revenues. Most established franchises (including the Saints) are guaranteed sellouts for years to come. Merchandise is also shared evenly across all franchises. The only revenue source that belongs to the individual franchise is concessions which, on the whole, is a very small percentage of total income. This is why even the worst of franchises are setting records for sales price when transferred to new owners. Believe me, money is not an incentive for change in any individual NFL franchise. Pride, yes. Money, no. The league model has that well in hand.
	“The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.” — Winston Churchill

12-16-2023, 03:03 PM	#5
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,119	Re: Clean house now Originally Posted by K Major Let’s hope (at least most of us here) the Saints front office aren't put into the position to make the same mistake the Chargers made last year, when they kept Brandon Staley despite the writing being clearly written on the wall. “Run it back” with this inept coaching staff for what? Firing Pete in the off season is the easy out. Saints issues are far greater than just the OC. My crystal ball says that DA will get fired later in the season.....next year.