Taysom Hill

BakoSaint · 12-03-2023, 10:27 PM

As a starter, I don't believe he would ever last a full season healthy. His age, style of play, injury history, and our lackluster offensive line would get him hurt. Plus there are a bunch of clauses in his contract to raise his pay if he gets significant playing time at QB.

If we were championship contenders with a real shot at a ring I could see the argument to play Hill if he was the hot hand. However, I think our best option is to rebuild, so I don't think the best way to do that is to go into 2024 with a 34 year old run-first QB starter trying to escalate his contract to $15+ million a year and a $30 million 32 year old backup. I think if Hill was a regular starter every down it would be easier for defenses to build their personnel and practices around stopping his runs. I believe this would force him into the pocket more behind our porous oline and he would take big hits like Carr is taking, plus it would set him up to take bigger hits on his runs with the opposing defense stacked with run stuffers.

Hill is a cool player. He might be more effective than a Derek Carr who does zero for games at a time in the red zone or a Jameis Winston who throws tons of INTs. But being better than them does not make him an average or above average QB. Perhaps it gets us from 25-30th at QB to 20-25th at QB. We have never seen Hill be a very good passer. So he becomes some version of Justin Fields or Marcus Mariota with a more physical Adrian Peterson type running style but probably not way different passing ability. Maybe other players will play better around him. Maybe we will win the division by a game and only lose to the Cowboys by 13. And then next year he is 34 years old, making $12 million or something with tons of incentives to raise his salary, and Carr has $30 million guaranteed to sit on the bench, and we can no longer risk Hill on special teams and other plays, and then week 11 next year after kicking in a bunch of incentives Hill tears his ACL with our record at 6-5 and Carr trots back out. Where does that get us?

12-03-2023, 10:27 PM	#4
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,400	Re: Taysom Hill As a starter, I don't believe he would ever last a full season healthy. His age, style of play, injury history, and our lackluster offensive line would get him hurt. Plus there are a bunch of clauses in his contract to raise his pay if he gets significant playing time at QB. If we were championship contenders with a real shot at a ring I could see the argument to play Hill if he was the hot hand. However, I think our best option is to rebuild, so I don't think the best way to do that is to go into 2024 with a 34 year old run-first QB starter trying to escalate his contract to $15+ million a year and a $30 million 32 year old backup. I think if Hill was a regular starter every down it would be easier for defenses to build their personnel and practices around stopping his runs. I believe this would force him into the pocket more behind our porous oline and he would take big hits like Carr is taking, plus it would set him up to take bigger hits on his runs with the opposing defense stacked with run stuffers. Hill is a cool player. He might be more effective than a Derek Carr who does zero for games at a time in the red zone or a Jameis Winston who throws tons of INTs. But being better than them does not make him an average or above average QB. Perhaps it gets us from 25-30th at QB to 20-25th at QB. We have never seen Hill be a very good passer. So he becomes some version of Justin Fields or Marcus Mariota with a more physical Adrian Peterson type running style but probably not way different passing ability. Maybe other players will play better around him. Maybe we will win the division by a game and only lose to the Cowboys by 13. And then next year he is 34 years old, making $12 million or something with tons of incentives to raise his salary, and Carr has $30 million guaranteed to sit on the bench, and we can no longer risk Hill on special teams and other plays, and then week 11 next year after kicking in a bunch of incentives Hill tears his ACL with our record at 6-5 and Carr trots back out. Where does that get us? iceshack149 likes this.
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,400