Michael Thomas deletes account after criticism for insensitive comment about Derek Carr’s injury

02-06-2024, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by bobdog86

who gives 2 sh*ts, really. I mean this, who actually gives a sh*t?

Quido does.... doh!

mapcow · 02-06-2024, 06:46 PM

Thomas is a blip on the Saints history chart.... nothing more and a lot less.

lee909 · 02-06-2024, 08:46 PM

Its great we are talking about a player who hasn't been relevant in the league since 2019. Those 20 games and 1100 yards and 4TDs has been worth the hassle and contract.

OldMaid · 02-07-2024, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

Drama is cute, fun, funny, media and fan appreciated, great for laughs, media coverage…lF YOU ARE WINNING. Only if you are winning.

BakoSaint · 02-07-2024, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by mapcow

Thomas is a blip on the Saints history chart.... nothing more and a lot less.

except financially

AsylumGuido · 02-07-2024, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

except financially

That's a blip, as well, moving forward. That contract will be chicken feed in a handful of years based upon the CBA and broadcast contracts. That CBA guarantees the players' share of all revenues is 48.8% and as long as the revenues keep climbing (which is locked in for the next decade) player contracts will climb.

The fact is that haters are gonna hate and excuses are excuses as for why people hate people they decide they are gonna hate.

AsylumGuido · 02-07-2024, 01:18 PM

With all of this *****ing about how much Thomas has cost the Saints the fact is that in his eight years in the league he has only received $72,520,383 cash. His 2024 salary would be $1.21 million.

BakoSaint · 02-07-2024, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

That's a blip, as well, moving forward. That contract will be chicken feed in a handful of years based upon the CBA and broadcast contracts. That CBA guarantees the players' share of all revenues is 48.8% and as long as the revenues keep climbing (which is locked in for the next decade) player contracts will climb.

The fact is that haters are gonna hate and excuses are excuses as for why people hate people they decide they are gonna hate.

There is a domino effect. We will likely take the cap hits and write off Thomas and Winston's deals this year, with some hit also possible to the 2025 salary cap. But Thomas's contract was one reason we had to restructure other risky veteran contracts in the previous offseason and extend Winston even though we had no intention to use him. And Thomas and Winston's dead cap hits in 2024 and 2025 offseasons will make it hard to afford to be able to move on from other contracts we might like to or be smart to get out of like Ram, Carr, Lattimore, Kamara, Maye, Hill, etc. In act it will force us to restructure most of those players and make it even harder to move on when they are even older. Having to keep one diminishing player too long because we can't afford the long term cap savings of a short term cap hit leads to having to keep the next round of diminishing players too long because we can't afford the long term cap savings of a short term cap hit. All this has happened before and all this will happen again, as long as Mickey is running the show.

BakoSaint · 02-07-2024, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

With all of this *****ing about how much Thomas has cost the Saints the fact is that in his eight years in the league he has only received $72,520,383 cash. His 2024 salary would be $1.21 million.

That salary is a meaningless placeholder. It is a void year.

A better way of looking at Michael Thomas's career earnings is that he made $4 million his first 4 years from 2016-2019 as a 2nd round draft pick, which is what 2nd round picks earn. From 2020-2023 he made $68 million for like 20 games, 1000 yards, 4 TDs. His extension was technically signed in 2019 but he was already under contact then for cheap, so basically it was a bonus to continue 2020 and beyond that did not work out well. It was worth a try, but a team in a better cap situation would have cut bait earlier.

AsylumGuido · 02-07-2024, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

There is a domino effect. We will likely take the cap hits and write off Thomas and Winston's deals this year, with some hit also possible to the 2025 salary cap. But Thomas's contract was one reason we had to restructure other risky veteran contracts in the previous offseason and extend Winston even though we had no intention to use him. And Thomas and Winston's dead cap hits in 2024 and 2025 offseasons will make it hard to afford to be able to move on from other contracts we might like to or be smart to get out of like Ram, Carr, Lattimore, Kamara, Maye, Hill, etc. In act it will force us to restructure most of those players and make it even harder to move on when they are even older. Having to keep one diminishing player too long because we can't afford the long term cap savings of a short term cap hit leads to having to keep the next round of diminishing players too long because we can't afford the long term cap savings of a short term cap hit. All this has happened before and all this will happen again, as long as Mickey is running the show.

Mickey's going to keep running the show for many years to come whether you, or anyone else, likes it. I have this somewhat guilty feeling of pleasure just knowing how it pisses you off after putting up with two years of your constant bellyaching.

02-06-2024, 06:44 PM	#91
Threaded by mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,335 Rating: (0 votes - average) Originally Posted by bobdog86 who gives 2 shts, really. I mean this, who actually gives a sht? Quido does.... doh! K Major likes this.
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02-06-2024, 06:46 PM	#92
mapcow Just a Fan Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,335	Re: Michael Thomas deletes account after criticism for insensitive comment about Derek Carr’s injury Thomas is a blip on the Saints history chart.... nothing more and a lot less. OldMaid likes this.
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02-06-2024, 08:46 PM	#93
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,777 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Michael Thomas deletes account after criticism for insensitive comment about Derek Carr’s injury Its great we are talking about a player who hasn't been relevant in the league since 2019. Those 20 games and 1100 yards and 4TDs has been worth the hassle and contract. OldMaid likes this.

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OldMaid Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,818 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Michael Thomas deletes account after criticism for insensitive comment about Derek Carr’s injury Originally Posted by K Major Drama is cute, fun, funny, media and fan appreciated, great for laughs, media coverage…lF YOU ARE WINNING. Only if you are winning. jnormand, Danno and K Major like this.

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BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 1,765	Re: Michael Thomas deletes account after criticism for insensitive comment about Derek Carr’s injury Originally Posted by mapcow Thomas is a blip on the Saints history chart.... nothing more and a lot less. except financially
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Michael Thomas deletes account after criticism for insensitive comment about Derek Carr’s injury Originally Posted by BakoSaint except financially That's a blip, as well, moving forward. That contract will be chicken feed in a handful of years based upon the CBA and broadcast contracts. That CBA guarantees the players' share of all revenues is 48.8% and as long as the revenues keep climbing (which is locked in for the next decade) player contracts will climb. The fact is that haters are gonna hate and excuses are excuses as for why people hate people they decide they are gonna hate.

02-07-2024, 01:18 PM	#97
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Michael Thomas deletes account after criticism for insensitive comment about Derek Carr’s injury With all of this *****ing about how much Thomas has cost the Saints the fact is that in his eight years in the league he has only received $72,520,383 cash. His 2024 salary would be $1.21 million.

02-07-2024, 01:20 PM	#98
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 1,765	Re: Michael Thomas deletes account after criticism for insensitive comment about Derek Carr’s injury Originally Posted by AsylumGuido That's a blip, as well, moving forward. That contract will be chicken feed in a handful of years based upon the CBA and broadcast contracts. That CBA guarantees the players' share of all revenues is 48.8% and as long as the revenues keep climbing (which is locked in for the next decade) player contracts will climb. The fact is that haters are gonna hate and excuses are excuses as for why people hate people they decide they are gonna hate. There is a domino effect. We will likely take the cap hits and write off Thomas and Winston's deals this year, with some hit also possible to the 2025 salary cap. But Thomas's contract was one reason we had to restructure other risky veteran contracts in the previous offseason and extend Winston even though we had no intention to use him. And Thomas and Winston's dead cap hits in 2024 and 2025 offseasons will make it hard to afford to be able to move on from other contracts we might like to or be smart to get out of like Ram, Carr, Lattimore, Kamara, Maye, Hill, etc. In act it will force us to restructure most of those players and make it even harder to move on when they are even older. Having to keep one diminishing player too long because we can't afford the long term cap savings of a short term cap hit leads to having to keep the next round of diminishing players too long because we can't afford the long term cap savings of a short term cap hit. All this has happened before and all this will happen again, as long as Mickey is running the show.
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02-07-2024, 01:28 PM	#99
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 1,765	Re: Michael Thomas deletes account after criticism for insensitive comment about Derek Carr’s injury Originally Posted by AsylumGuido With all of this *****ing about how much Thomas has cost the Saints the fact is that in his eight years in the league he has only received $72,520,383 cash. His 2024 salary would be $1.21 million. That salary is a meaningless placeholder. It is a void year. A better way of looking at Michael Thomas's career earnings is that he made $4 million his first 4 years from 2016-2019 as a 2nd round draft pick, which is what 2nd round picks earn. From 2020-2023 he made $68 million for like 20 games, 1000 yards, 4 TDs. His extension was technically signed in 2019 but he was already under contact then for cheap, so basically it was a bonus to continue 2020 and beyond that did not work out well. It was worth a try, but a team in a better cap situation would have cut bait earlier.
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02-07-2024, 01:39 PM	#100
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 24,395	Re: Michael Thomas deletes account after criticism for insensitive comment about Derek Carr’s injury Originally Posted by BakoSaint There is a domino effect. We will likely take the cap hits and write off Thomas and Winston's deals this year, with some hit also possible to the 2025 salary cap. But Thomas's contract was one reason we had to restructure other risky veteran contracts in the previous offseason and extend Winston even though we had no intention to use him. And Thomas and Winston's dead cap hits in 2024 and 2025 offseasons will make it hard to afford to be able to move on from other contracts we might like to or be smart to get out of like Ram, Carr, Lattimore, Kamara, Maye, Hill, etc. In act it will force us to restructure most of those players and make it even harder to move on when they are even older. Having to keep one diminishing player too long because we can't afford the long term cap savings of a short term cap hit leads to having to keep the next round of diminishing players too long because we can't afford the long term cap savings of a short term cap hit. All this has happened before and all this will happen again, as long as Mickey is running the show. Mickey's going to keep running the show for many years to come whether you, or anyone else, likes it. I have this somewhat guilty feeling of pleasure just knowing how it pisses you off after putting up with two years of your constant bellyaching.