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arsaint 12-10-2023 02:14 PM

I can see a 3 way tie after today
 
If Tampa can hold on and the Saints eke out a win vs worst team in the league, then you have three teams at 6-7

Allen will be out there trying to sell that they are in 1st with everything in front of them and they control their fate.

TRUE, but when have the Saints taken advantage of a situation like that and not choked?

We’re just delaying the inevitable collapse and rebuild. This is not the wildcard Giants that get hot at the end of the year and beat the patriots in the superbowl.

arsaint 12-10-2023 03:07 PM

Re: I can see a 3 way tie after today
 
And here we are…

Let’s hope the Saints prove me wrong and just win out

AsylumGuido 12-10-2023 05:50 PM

Re: I can see a 3 way tie after today
 
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Originally Posted by arsaint (Post 988097)
And here we are…

Let’s hope the Saints prove me wrong and just win out


They will.

Who Dat!!

Sinner 12-10-2023 07:17 PM

Re: I can see a 3 way tie after today
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 988105)
They will.

Who Dat!!

I’m starting to see your point… Why beat a dead horse when you can just sit and pay to watch the flies take it apart slowly?

jnormand 12-10-2023 08:13 PM

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This team was terrible for most of the game. Carr was trash. I wasn’t there but I’m sure he got booed. Constantly. It’s just weird we keep him in when he is just awful.

I’m sure he’s a nice guy. But good grief.

mapcow 12-10-2023 08:21 PM

Re: I can see a 3 way tie after today
 
seriously doubt Saints win any of its last games of the season. Steak is better rare to medium rare... rather than well done.... like the Saints. :beatnik:

saintsfan1976 12-11-2023 07:33 AM

Re: I can see a 3 way tie after today
 
$1 says they won't win out.

SaintFanInATLHELL 12-11-2023 08:25 AM

Re: I can see a 3 way tie after today
 
I know many fans have a undying devotion to want to get to the playoffs. But after watching the other games yesterday, this isn't the year for it.

My hope is that the Saints beat the Failclowns on Jan 7 but miss the playoffs because the unlucky sucker that ends up winning the South this year is set up for an ass beating and a quick playoff exit by whomever finishes second in the East, likely the Cowgirls.

SFIAH

saintsfan1976 12-11-2023 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL (Post 988131)
I know many fans have a undying devotion to want to get to the playoffs. But after watching the other games yesterday, this isn't the year for it.

My hope is that the Saints beat the Failclowns on Jan 7 but miss the playoffs because the unlucky sucker that ends up winning the South this year is set up for an ass beating and a quick playoff exit by whomever finishes second in the East, likely the Cowgirls.

SFIAH

When it comes to the only team I've ever supported and for the last 35+ years, I have NEVER taken this stance, but I think losing out is the best option for this team to have any hope of moving beyond the current coaching staff and QB

K Major 12-11-2023 08:55 AM

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I agree with the last two post(s) ^^.

Making the playoffs with this team, those coaches, does absolutely NOTHING.

Like Underhill stated last night, the Saints need better draft picks, better players and a real PLAN in 2024.

Danno 12-11-2023 10:20 AM

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4-0 and we're in
3-1 likely out
2-2 done
1-3 Firing time

Sinner 12-11-2023 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 988140)
4-4 and we're in
3-1 likely out
2-2 done
1-3 Firing time

It was firing time this time last year.

AsylumGuido 12-11-2023 12:41 PM

Re: I can see a 3 way tie after today
 
As a fan I only care about the next game. I have always, and will always, want my Saints to win that game with every ounce of my being. What happens next year is next year. There's no guarantee any of us will even be alive to see what happens.

Who Dat!!

:bng:

AsylumGuido 12-11-2023 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 988121)
This team was terrible for most of the game. Carr was trash. I wasn’t there but I’m sure he got booed. Constantly. It’s just weird we keep him in when he is just awful.

I’m sure he’s a nice guy. But good grief.

I was there and I wouldn't say he got booed. There was a smattering of boos at a couple of points, but they were directed at the playcalling. There was lots of talk in our section about Carmichael needing to go. Same thing at halftime around the common area. I thought Carr looked as good as could be expected given the vanilla playcalling and the pressure he was constantly receiving. 18 for 26 passing (69.2%) is always respectable. This is the 2nd straight game he's come through in the red zone, as well.

saintsfan1976 12-11-2023 01:08 PM

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Agreed. Why would the Quarterback get booed? Consistently missing open reads, yelling at players, throwing passes to Offensive lineman... That's on Carmichael for sure.

saintsfan1976 12-11-2023 01:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 988140)
4-4 and we're in
3-1 likely out
2-2 done
1-3 Firing time

vs Giants - Win
@ Rams - Loss
@ Tampa - Loss
vs Atlanta - Win

Sinner 12-11-2023 02:25 PM

Re: I can see a 3 way tie after today
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 988151)
I was there and I wouldn't say he got booed. There was a smattering of boos at a couple of points, but they were directed at the playcalling. There was lots of talk in our section about Carmichael needing to go. Same thing at halftime around the common area. I thought Carr looked as good as could be expected given the vanilla playcalling and the pressure he was constantly receiving. 18 for 26 passing (69.2%) is always respectable. This is the 2nd straight game he's come through in the red zone, as well.

Translation: “Boooooooooo” = “Ooooooooohhhhh”

Rugby Saint II 12-11-2023 02:39 PM

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Just lose baby!!!! :p

AsylumGuido 12-11-2023 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 988152)
Agreed. Why would the Quarterback get booed? Consistently missing open reads, yelling at players, throwing passes to Offensive lineman... That's on Carmichael for sure.

In my opinion, yes.

And I'm just sharing what I saw and heard in person.

Sinner 12-11-2023 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 988159)
In my opinion, yes.

And I'm just sharing what I saw and heard in person.

Translation: CARR IS THE MAN!

K Major 12-11-2023 03:42 PM

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This team isn’t going 4-4 that is for certain.

AsylumGuido 12-11-2023 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 988174)
This team isn’t going 4-4 that is for certain.

Of course not. There aren't eight games remaining. 4-0, yes. They can given the competition.

Sinner 12-11-2023 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 988175)
Of course not. There aren't eight games remaining. 4-0, yes. They can given the competition.

Definitely a Super Bowl Contender this year. I saw it yesterday!

K Major 12-11-2023 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 988177)
Definitely a Super Bowl Contender this year. I saw it yesterday!

Lol.

This Saints team just played argubly the worst team in football it was a one score game (14-6) into the middle part of the 4th quarter.

Super Bowl here we come!

AsylumGuido 12-11-2023 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 988180)
Lol.

This Saints team just played argubly the worst team in football it was a one score game (14-6) into the middle part of the 4th quarter.

Super Bowl here we come!

Haters gonna hate. That is always a given.

Sinner 12-11-2023 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 988187)
Haters gonna hate. That is always a given.

It’s ok. Let them hate. I saw exactly what you saw on Sunday. We are a Super Bowl caliber Team! Better than when Aaron Brooks took down the greatest show on turf, better than when Drew and company took down the Colts.

We definitely do have “all the right people in the building”.

This Holiday Season is going to be almost as cheerful as last year, or “maybe next year”.

“Championship.”

neugey 12-11-2023 08:26 PM

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Ah the NFC South ... where we somehow manage to make a 3-way not fun ;)

saintsfan1976 12-12-2023 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 988187)
Haters gonna hate. That is always a given.


And Pollyanna's gonna Pollyanna. Equally frustrating.

AsylumGuido 12-12-2023 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 988204)
And Pollyanna's gonna Pollyanna. Equally frustrating.

I'll take that from anyone, any day, everyday over hate.

Sinner 12-12-2023 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 988210)
I'll take that from anyone, any day, everyday over hate.

What you see as hate, is valid criticism.
What we see as poly anna, is masochism.

K Major 12-12-2023 09:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 988211)
What you see as hate, is valid criticism.
What we see as poly anna, is masochism.

Sinner,

What New Orleans seems to have a lot of are "fans" that live in the moment and truly don't understand that winning at this point hurts the future. But a "win is a win" and they can have it.

This team looked HORRIBLE against the Panthers. Bryce Young doesn't even look as though he's an NFL caliber QB & that team is a dumpster fire. Highly compensated DCarmaxx was slightly better but that ain't saying much.

We just played a 1 win team & it was a one score game into the middle of the 4th quarter.

Not sure how many tuned in to MNF but the Packers (a team we lost to) took it on the chin to a 4-7 Giants team. Better believe the Packers will make changes with their coaching staff ... soon.

But the Saints way of thinking ... yah, let's celebrate and give out game balls after beating a 1 win team :rolleyes:. MINDSET.

With this coaching staff, good luck winning the division :brood:.

Sinner 12-12-2023 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 988213)
Sinner,

What New Orleans seems to have a lot of are "fans" that live in the moment and truly don't understand that winning at this point hurts the future. But a "win is a win" and they can have it.

This team looked HORRIBLE against the Panthers. Bryce Young doesn't even look as though he's an NFL caliber QB & that team is a dumpster fire. Highly compensated DCarmaxx was slightly better but that ain't saying much.

We just played a 1 win team & it was a one score game into the middle of the 4th quarter.

Not sure how many tuned in to MNF but the Packers (a team we lost to) took it on the chin to a 4-7 Giants team. Better believe the Packers will make changes with their coaching staff ... soon.

But the Saints way of thinking ... yah, let's celebrate and give out game balls after beating a 1 win team :rolleyes:. MINDSET.

With this coaching staff, good luck winning the division :brood:.

THIS RIGHT HERE… ^^^

saintsfan1976 12-12-2023 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 988210)
I'll take that from anyone, any day, everyday over hate.

You're quick to assign "hate" when you don't agree with someone's view.

Sinner 12-12-2023 11:39 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 988231)
You're quick to assign "hate" when you don't agree with someone's view.

He is looking through the same lenses that see the Saints as having all the right people in the building.

AsylumGuido 12-12-2023 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 988231)
You're quick to assign "hate" when you don't agree with someone's view.

I have no issue with other's viewpoints. What I do have an issue with is the incessant b!tching and moaning and flooding of a once informative and productive forum with the same drivel non-stop. It has indeed run off many members. That is the hate to which I refer. Every thread, every post is turned into vile.

Sinner 12-12-2023 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 988236)
I have no issue with other's viewpoints. What I do have an issue with is the incessant b!tching and moaning and flooding of a once informative and productive forum with the same drivel non-stop. It has indeed run off many members. That is the hate to which I refer. Every thread, every post is turned into vile.

The threads turn vile because our organization is bile.

Sinner 12-12-2023 12:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 988236)
I have no issue with other's viewpoints. What I do have an issue with is the incessant b!tching and moaning and flooding of a once informative and productive forum with the same drivel non-stop. It has indeed run off many members. That is the hate to which I refer. Every thread, every post is turned into vile.

And as long as we’re going to have to get used to our team’s incessant sub-mediocre performance at the professional level, you’re going to have to get used to our incessant *****ing and moaning about it. That’s life big boy.

saintsfan1976 12-12-2023 02:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 988236)
I have no issue with other's viewpoints. What I do have an issue with is the incessant b!tching and moaning and flooding of a once informative and productive forum with the same drivel non-stop. It has indeed run off many members. That is the hate to which I refer. Every thread, every post is turned into vile.

And the issue many have with you Guido is the incessant rainbow-chasing and patronizing condescension.

Members need leeway to b!tch and moan here. Things aren't always alright.

You'd do well to occasionally say "You know what Sinner, you're right - these guys suck and I hope they figure it out soon too...."

But you don't. Instead you tell fans why their opinions and feelings are wrong and dismiss their rebuttals.

You've placed yourself on an island of infallability and you wonder why there's sharks...

AsylumGuido 12-12-2023 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 988252)
And the issue many have with you Guido is the incessant rainbow-chasing and patronizing condescension.

Members need leeway to b!tch and moan here. Things aren't always alright.

You'd do well to occasionally say "You know what Sinner, you're right - these guys suck and I hope they figure it out soon too...."

But you don't. Instead you tell fans why their opinions and feelings are wrong and dismiss their rebuttals.

You've placed yourself on an island of infallability and you wonder why there's sharks...

I've had that sinner dude set on ignore for months and have no intention of changing that status anytime soon. I no longer care what he says or doesn't say any longer. His schtick grew old quickly.

And I occasionally tell other fans why I disagree with their opinions and why I feel they are wrong. You know, a rebuttal. I have no problem with their rebuttals so why should they have them with mine? It's a two way street, no? Others tell me why they don't agree with my rebuttal and as long as it is civil then fine.

I also agree with other's stances on a regular basis which draws the ire of some for some convoluted sense of logical direction.

But you are correct. There are sharks out there. An apt description.

Sinner 12-12-2023 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 988262)
I've had that sinner dude set on ignore for months and have no intention of changing that status anytime soon. I no longer care what he says or doesn't say any longer. His schtick grew old quickly.

And I occasionally tell other fans why I disagree with their opinions and why I feel they are wrong. You know, a rebuttal. I have no problem with their rebuttals so why should they have them with mine? It's a two way street, no? Others tell me why they don't agree with my rebuttal and as long as it is civil then fine.

I also agree with other's stances on a regular basis which draws the ire of some for some convoluted sense of logical direction.

But you are correct. There are sharks out there. An apt description.

The fun part about being set to “Ignore” by you, is I still get to witness your rose colored glasses view of our poorly managed organization and your absolutely meaningless and uninspiring data points (Yawn….) and I get to play Stephen A. Smith to your hypnosis. It’s both therapeutic for me, and possibly humorous for other members who might be feeling down or downright insulted by what “all the right people in the building” put together for us to enjoy (less than you) for the last two painful seasons, and possibly a few more.

It’s just a freaking game, and one that our team has been mismanaged and coached to play badly. Have fun with it Polly.


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