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AsylumGuido 12-12-2023 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by leilung (Post 988240)
Was this really a PC decision not to play Jimmy, or was it ultimately DA's call? I haven't seen anything to indicate either.
The offensive coordinator should always have the call on what players are executing his offense if they are medically available and on the 53 man roster (as has been Graham). At least from what I have always gathered. I cannot imagine a scenario where the de facto defensive coordinator (Dennis Allen) would make that call.

Sinner 12-12-2023 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 988242)
The offensive coordinator should always have the call on what players are executing his offense if they a medically available and on the 53 man roster (as has been Graham). At least from what I have always gathered. I cannot imagine a scenario where the de facto defensive coordinator (Dennis Allen) would make that call.
Translation: LEAVE DENNIS ALLEN ALONE. DENNIS ALLEN STAYS.

AsylumGuido 12-12-2023 12:37 PM
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Look at it this way, who are you going to sit out of the gameday roster at TE if you were Carmichael? Juwan Johnson? Taysom? Foster Moreau? Or Graham? Moreau is arguably the best blocker with Taysom probably being the next best. Sounds like Graham's just been the odd man out.

Sinner 12-12-2023 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 988249)
Look at it this way, who are you going to sit out of the gameday roster at TE if you were Carmichael? Juwan Johnson? Taysom? Foster Moreau? Or Graham? Moreau is arguably the best blocker with Taysom probably being the next best. Sounds like Graham's just been the odd man out.
Makes sense. Rest him on Wednesday, get him into some nitty gritty on Friday, rest him on Sunday. Yeah we got it all together as an organization.

saintsfan1976 12-12-2023 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 988239)
Those backups are also being equipped with playcalling and play design beyond the comprehension limits of a five-year-old.
I thought you said a win is a win, no matter how you get there, right...?

K Major 12-12-2023 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by leilung (Post 988240)
Was this really a PC decision not to play Jimmy, or was it ultimately DA's call? I haven't seen anything to indicate either.
Because the Saints have a clown as head coach. ZERO accountability.

And people wonder why they are a sub .500 team, having issues scoring in the red zone, guys not on the same page offensively etc.

Glad Katherine Terrell called him out in her reporting.

This is beyond ridiculous.

AsylumGuido 12-12-2023 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 988251)
I thought you said a win is a win, no matter how you get there, right...?
Absolutely! But if it takes overcoming Carmichael's obvious lack of skills as a OC/playcaller, then so be it. Win or lose I suspect his days are over after the season.

AsylumGuido 12-12-2023 06:12 PM
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AsylumGuido 12-12-2023 06:18 PM
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Sinner 12-12-2023 06:25 PM
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We playin like a$$. Are these links supposed to get us excited about something?

K Major 12-12-2023 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 988285)
We playin like a$$. Are these links supposed to get us excited about something?
Right again.

The sad part is that the Saints have problems a meaningless win (struggled against the worst team in football) can't mask.

And a select few want to possibly see this chit show host/play Dallas in a wild card game? To get skull drug by a real team trying to get back to the SB.

Lol, ok :rolleyes:.

Getting rid of the head coach would be a terrific start for 2024.

Sinner 12-12-2023 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 988286)
Right again.

The sad part is that the Saints have problems a meaningless win (struggled against the worst team in football) can't mask.

And a select few want to possibly see this chit show host/play Dallas in a wild card game? To get skull drug by a real team trying to get back to the SB.

Lol, ok :rolleyes:.

Getting rid of the head coach would be a terrific start for 2024.
Don’t like smiling while getting smashed in the face by your team? He’ll tell you to find another franchise.

AsylumGuido 12-12-2023 06:41 PM
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Great. Major replies to the sinner guy so I have to see it. But, I'll reply.

These links I constantly post are something that I took over after we lost our friend, Jeanpierre, who shared news from other sources on a regular basis before his untimely death. Jeanpierre also keep an up to date depth chart available for B&G members. I've done my best to fill in. Not as good as what he provided, but I try.

This guy's constant hate is why I blocked him many months ago and why he will remain that way. Belittle me if you wish, but don't demean our former passed members with your disrespect.

Sinner 12-12-2023 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 988288)
Great. Major replies to the sinner guy so I have to see it. But, I'll reply.

These links I constantly post are something that I took over after we lost our friend, Jeanpierre, who shared news from other sources on a regular basis before his untimely death. Jeanpierre also keep an up to date depth chart available for B&G members. I've done my best to fill in. Not as good as what he provided, but I try.

This guy's constant hate is why I blocked him many months ago and why he will remain that way. Belittle me if you wish, but don't demean our former passed members with your disrespect.
Ok. Consider yourself belittled. Only because you requested it.

K Major 12-13-2023 09:31 AM
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Was listening to Moscona last night talk about Jimmy Graham.

2/2, 16 yards & 1 td (redzone). The week before he also scored a TD. Mind you, he's been inactive (healthy scratch) for weeks.

Same could be said for Jamal Williams. He went from scoring 17 tds, over 1k yards in 2022 while in Detroit to 190 yards & 0 tds in NO.

Not using these guys (contributors) effectively should have been ground for termination of Dennis Allen several weeks ago.

The level of incompetence from this coaching staff is as low as I've ever seen it.

Mr.Riaton 12-13-2023 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 988288)
Great. Major replies to the sinner guy so I have to see it. But, I'll reply.

These links I constantly post are something that I took over after we lost our friend, Jeanpierre, who shared news from other sources on a regular basis before his untimely death. Jeanpierre also keep an up to date depth chart available for B&G members. I've done my best to fill in. Not as good as what he provided, but I try.

This guy's constant hate is why I blocked him many months ago and why he will remain that way. Belittle me if you wish, but don't demean our former passed members with your disrespect.
F**king woooowwww!!!
Using a former member here that has passed as ammunition to towards another member to try and belittle and make him feel some kind of guilt and make yourself look good…
I’ve seen a lot of low sh*t on this forum but this takes the cake.

AsylumGuido 12-13-2023 11:57 AM
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Sinner 12-13-2023 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 988295)
F**king woooowwww!!!
Using a former member here that has passed as ammunition to towards another member to try and belittle and make him feel some kind of guilt and make yourself look good…
I’ve seen a lot of low sh*t on this forum but this takes the cake.
Yeah, but the guilt-shaming didn’t work, and our team is still in trouble, and may be in trouble for quite some time. And as long as our mismanagement doesn’t address that, there will be venting all over this forum. Meaningless links and uninspiring stats and all the rose-colored hopiates in the world will not change the vibe here. Only a winning team and a QUALITY PRODUCT will turn this into the celebration that it needs to be.

vpheughan 12-13-2023 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 988295)
F**king woooowwww!!!
Using a former member here that has passed as ammunition to towards another member to try and belittle and make him feel some kind of guilt and make yourself look good…
I’ve seen a lot of low sh*t on this forum but this takes the cake.
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