Week Fifteen: Giants @ Saints

MatthewT · 12-13-2023, 03:20 PM

No one has ever questioned Derek Carr's toughness, just his effectiveness.

AsylumGuido · 12-13-2023, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

No one has ever questioned Derek Carr's toughness, just his effectiveness.

And how much of that is due to Carmichael's horrible play design and playcalling? However, over the past two games the red zone efficiency has been markedly better. We were 7 for 7 scoring TD's from the red zone in those two games. Where was that before?

Sinner · 12-13-2023, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

And how much of that is due to Carmichael's horrible play design and playcalling? However, over the past two games the red zone efficiency has been markedly better. We were 7 for 7 scoring TD's from the red zone in those two games. Where was that before?

Dude still thinks Derek Carr is our guy. Wow…

K Major · 12-13-2023, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

Dude still thinks Derek Carr is our guy. Wow…

Crazy right?

I'm not so sure he's even earned that C on his jersey.

All I see on Sunday's is a under performing QB who acts like a petulant child and doesn't handle criticsm very well when things get challenging.

Sinner · 12-13-2023, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Crazy right?

I'm not so sure he's even earned that C on his jersey.

All I see on Sunday's is a under performing QB who acts like a petulant child and doesn't handle criticsm very well when things get challenging.

We don’t have a QB or a Head Coach with any presence or power. That alone is problematic. We don’t have a GM that wants to do anything about it. That’s an insult.

AsylumGuido · 12-13-2023, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Crazy right?

I'm not so sure he's even earned that C on his jersey.

All I see on Sunday's is a under performing QB who acts like a petulant child and doesn't handle criticsm very well when things get challenging.

Not sure who thinks Derek Carr is our guy. All I know is he's not going anywhere anytime soon due to contract restraints, so the only logical avenue is to look at how things CAN be made better. Replacing Carmichael is one move that CAN be made.

MatthewT · 12-13-2023, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

And how much of that is due to Carmichael's horrible play design and playcalling? However, over the past two games the red zone efficiency has been markedly better. We were 7 for 7 scoring TD's from the red zone in those two games. Where was that before?

Sorry dude, can't blame this one on Carmichael. If anything, Carr is most of the reason why Carmichael has looked bad this year.

AsylumGuido · 12-13-2023, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

Sorry dude, can't blame this one on Carmichael. If anything, Carr is most of the reason why Carmichael has looked bad this year.

Carmichael's offense looked just as bad last year and Carr wasn't around to blame. The total lack of motion in the offense and the underutilization of dynamic players is ALL on Carmichael and has been since Payton left. We've looked no better when Winston was under center. Or when Andy Dalton was in there. Same exact issues.

MatthewT · 12-13-2023, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Carmichael's offense looked just as bad last year and Carr wasn't around to blame. The total lack of motion in the offense and the underutilization of dynamic players is ALL on Carmichael and has been since Payton left. We've looked no better when Winston was under center. Or when Andy Dalton was in there. Same exact issues.

All three mentioned are nothing more than QBs who all came to New Orleans as reclamation projects or guys past their prime.

Sinner · 12-13-2023, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Carmichael's offense looked just as bad last year and Carr wasn't around to blame. The total lack of motion in the offense and the underutilization of dynamic players is ALL on Carmichael and has been since Payton left. We've looked no better when Winston was under center. Or when Andy Dalton was in there. Same exact issues.

The fact that we have so many bad issues at key positions including a sorry a$$ head Coach, indicates a MANAGEMENT PROBLEM. We DO NOT have “all the right people in the building”… Gonna be a long decade ahead.

12-13-2023, 03:20 PM	#1
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Week Fifteen: Giants @ Saints No one has ever questioned Derek Carr's toughness, just his effectiveness. Rugby Saint II and Sinner like this.

12-13-2023, 03:43 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,543	Re: Week Fifteen: Giants @ Saints Originally Posted by MatthewT No one has ever questioned Derek Carr's toughness, just his effectiveness. And how much of that is due to Carmichael's horrible play design and playcalling? However, over the past two games the red zone efficiency has been markedly better. We were 7 for 7 scoring TD's from the red zone in those two games. Where was that before?

12-13-2023, 03:44 PM	#3
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,059	Re: Week Fifteen: Giants @ Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido And how much of that is due to Carmichael's horrible play design and playcalling? However, over the past two games the red zone efficiency has been markedly better. We were 7 for 7 scoring TD's from the red zone in those two games. Where was that before? Dude still thinks Derek Carr is our guy. Wow… MatthewT, K Major and Mr.Riaton like this.
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12-13-2023, 03:57 PM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,769 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Week Fifteen: Giants @ Saints Originally Posted by Sinner Dude still thinks Derek Carr is our guy. Wow… Crazy right? I'm not so sure he's even earned that C on his jersey. All I see on Sunday's is a under performing QB who acts like a petulant child and doesn't handle criticsm very well when things get challenging. MatthewT and Sinner like this.

12-13-2023, 04:02 PM	#5
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 4,059	Re: Week Fifteen: Giants @ Saints Originally Posted by K Major Crazy right? I'm not so sure he's even earned that C on his jersey. All I see on Sunday's is a under performing QB who acts like a petulant child and doesn't handle criticsm very well when things get challenging. We don’t have a QB or a Head Coach with any presence or power. That alone is problematic. We don’t have a GM that wants to do anything about it. That’s an insult. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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12-13-2023, 04:06 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,543	Re: Week Fifteen: Giants @ Saints Originally Posted by MatthewT Sorry dude, can't blame this one on Carmichael. If anything, Carr is most of the reason why Carmichael has looked bad this year. Carmichael's offense looked just as bad last year and Carr wasn't around to blame. The total lack of motion in the offense and the underutilization of dynamic players is ALL on Carmichael and has been since Payton left. We've looked no better when Winston was under center. Or when Andy Dalton was in there. Same exact issues. Rugby Saint II likes this.

12-13-2023, 04:08 PM	#9
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Week Fifteen: Giants @ Saints Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Carmichael's offense looked just as bad last year and Carr wasn't around to blame. The total lack of motion in the offense and the underutilization of dynamic players is ALL on Carmichael and has been since Payton left. We've looked no better when Winston was under center. Or when Andy Dalton was in there. Same exact issues. All three mentioned are nothing more than QBs who all came to New Orleans as reclamation projects or guys past their prime. Sinner likes this.