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MatthewT 12-20-2023 12:43 PM

Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 988816)
They can't leverage anything if they let him go. When a coach is fired the team forfeits any rights. Payton quit on his own so the Saints retained his rights. I just can't see any scenario where Tomlin would willingly walk away from the Steelers job.

Coaches get let go all the time and can go anywhere they want right away. I would imagine the vast majority coaches have time left on their contracts when cut loose.

I understand the differences, I don't believe the Steelers will fire Tomlin, at least not right away. Tomlin will need to either walk or play out his final year of his contract.

AsylumGuido 12-20-2023 01:19 PM

Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC
 
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Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 988826)
I understand the differences, I don't believe the Steelers will fire Tomlin, at least not right away. Tomlin will need to either walk or play out his final year of his contract.

From what I'm hearing (via NFL Radio mainly) it's the team and not Tomlin that may have inklings of moving on. That is if there is anything to it beyond the same old nearing the end of the year clickbait. I see no reason why he wouldn't want to play out his contract.

From what I've also been hearing Bill Belichick and Dan Quinn may be the most likely candidates out there.

AsylumGuido 12-20-2023 01:31 PM

Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC
 
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Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 988826)
I understand the differences, I don't believe the Steelers will fire Tomlin, at least not right away. Tomlin will need to either walk or play out his final year of his contract.

Speaking of "clickbait", I just saw that Florio has put your scenario out there with this article.

stickman 12-20-2023 01:41 PM

Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC
 
I think we could do worse than Tomlin and wouldn't be opposed to it. That said, I agree with neugey. The Saints would probably be outbid.

AsylumGuido 12-20-2023 01:45 PM

Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC
 
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Originally Posted by stickman (Post 988831)
I think we could do worse than Tomlin and wouldn't be opposed to it. That said, I agree with neugey. The Saints would probably be outbid.

I also just read that if Tomlin becomes available Chicago will be willing to do whatever it takes to get him. That price could be way up there. Few people have the liquid capital that Gayle Benson enjoys. Even other NFL owners.

B_Dub_Saint 12-20-2023 02:02 PM

Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 988796)
If Pittsburg does decide to move on from Tomlin he'd essentially be a free agent and wouldn't cost us any draft picks. Our difference with Payton was his leaving was his idea so we were able to retain his rights.

That said, I'd be all in on Tomlin.

Oh, and welcome back!

Good to see you brother!

B_Dub_Saint 12-20-2023 02:03 PM

Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC
 
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Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 988810)
Pretty amazing information if true. BTW, glad to see you again ole friend!

Glad to be back my friend! We all need to do a tailgate again soon.

Rugby Saint II 12-20-2023 03:57 PM

Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC
 
It's time for all new young blood with creative ideas. The NFL evolves. Some coaches can evolve and other can't. Let's go get someone young from a proven system.

Sinner 12-20-2023 04:02 PM

Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC
 
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 988842)
It's time for all new young blood with creative ideas. The NFL evolves. Some coaches can evolve and other can't. Let's go get someone young from a proven system.

Youth is key here. It’s clear to see that Masters like Belichick or Tomlin have periods where everything clicks and they themselves have a fire, then it fades or passes. Unfortunately, our current excuse has neither fire or youth or any special presence at all, so these more legendary old cats might seem attractive, but we need something completely new.

AsylumGuido 12-20-2023 04:38 PM

Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC
 
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 988842)
It's time for all new young blood with creative ideas. The NFL evolves. Some coaches can evolve and other can't. Let's go get someone young from a proven system.

Like Brandon Staley with the Chargers ... whoops!


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