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AsylumGuido 12-20-2023 04:43 PM

Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC
 
Here's pretty much the same situation with Belichick still under contract.

Same scenario as with Tomlin.


From the linked article:

Yes, Patriots owner Robert Kraft apparently wants to have his cake and eat it when it comes to coach Bill Belichick.

Kraft is moving toward moving on, but he’s apparently hoping to get someone to trade for the coach who remains under contract through 2024. And he’s potentially trying to corner the market in offers for the coach.

Via Sports Business Journal, Tom Curran of NBC Sports Boston said Tuesday that Kraft might try to “make a bidding war emerge” for Belichick if the Patriots part ways with the coach who was hired in 2000, and who has delivered six Super Bowl wins.

As Curran notes, it could take multiple weeks for it all to unfold. And he’s right, if it doesn’t start until after the regular season ends. Other teams would have to go through the motions of a search before picking up the phone and calling the Patriots with the intent of striking a compensation deal that would allow someone to hire Belichick.

“That’s three weeks less that the new coach has to prepare the team,” Curran said. “Three weeks less that there is a personnel department with a clearly defined vision for 2024.”

Thus, Curran rightly concludes that “foot dragging for compensation is not the way to go.”

He’s right. That’s why, if a trade is going to happen (and if a bidding war is going to break out), it’s more likely to be happening now, quietly and discreetly and fully and completely behind the scenes.

All that said, Belichick has no reason to go along with any of it. He could have left as a free agent after the 2022 season. He didn’t. His position, with one year under contract, could/should be simple: Keep me or fire me.

... the best solution continues to include both sides walking away from each other after the regular season ends. No trade. No buyout. Mutual parting. Termination of contract. Patriots go their way, Belichick goes his way.

Read the full article here ...

Sinner 12-20-2023 06:02 PM

Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 988850)
Like Brandon Staley with the Chargers ... whoops!

Boy… that snarky thing you do is so clever, it almost makes it hard to like you.

gulfgambler 12-20-2023 06:06 PM

Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC
 
Neaux!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

neugey 12-20-2023 06:07 PM

Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC
 
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 988850)
Like Brandon Staley with the Chargers ... whoops!


Or Matt Nagy. Or Adam Gase.


But it's chance worth taking if you find a Sean Payton, Mike McDaniel, Nick Sirianni or Sean McVay. Then you're cooking with gas.


The upper college ranks also need to be considered more frequently. Because of the transfer portal and NIL college coaching is becoming a little more like the pro's and it's not the quantum leap it used to be.

AsylumGuido 12-20-2023 06:11 PM

Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC
 
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Originally Posted by neugey (Post 988858)
Or Matt Nagy. Or Adam Gase.


But it's chance worth taking if you find a Sean Payton, Mike McDaniel, Nick Sirianni or Sean McVay. Then you're cooking with gas.


The upper college ranks also need to be considered more frequently. Because of the transfer portal and NIL college coaching is becoming a little more like the pro's and it's not the quantum leap it used to be.

It seems like for every one of those there's half a dozen that fizzle and their flames go out. Going that route you just need to be prepared to swing and miss a couple of times and have a half decade of struggles.

Sinner 12-20-2023 06:12 PM

Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by neugey (Post 988858)
Or Matt Nagy. Or Adam Gase.


But it's chance worth taking if you find a Sean Payton, Mike McDaniel, Nick Sirianni or Sean McVay. Then you're cooking with gas.


The upper college ranks also need to be considered more frequently. Because of the transfer portal and NIL college coaching is becoming a little more like the pro's and it's not the quantum leap it used to be.

The chance worth taking is not what the right people in our building do anymore.

neugey 12-20-2023 06:22 PM

Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC
 
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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 988861)
The chance worth taking is not what the right people in our building do anymore.


They need to give up the Barney Miller reruns and stream that new top Netflix series!

K Major 12-20-2023 07:08 PM

Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC
 
Haha

leilung 12-21-2023 06:45 AM

Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC
 
The guy is a proven HC with 15 years under his belt. Playoff record is a real burr in his saddle, but he has been a force to be reckoned with in a tough division for many years.

I would go with someone new. A fresh set of eyes and some innovation might take this team out of the old days of Pocket QB and adapt to the new reality of mobility.

B_Dub_Saint 12-21-2023 08:24 AM

Re: Mike Tomlin as new Saints HC
 
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Originally Posted by leilung (Post 988873)
The guy is a proven HC with 15 years under his belt. Playoff record is a real burr in his saddle, but he has been a force to be reckoned with in a tough division for many years.

I would go with someone new. A fresh set of eyes and some innovation might take this team out of the old days of Pocket QB and adapt to the new reality of mobility.

Moblie QB is where we need to be to compete in this league. I want Jayden Daniels so bad, but I know we won't be there to pick him. If he basically red shirted his 1st year, he could be a force with the right coaches.


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