Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint (Post 988779) I know it's a pipedream, but what would ya'll think about Tomlin as our new HC? I think with what's going on in Pittsburg that they might make a change. I do realize that the Steelers keep their coaches every 500 years, but I have a feeling that they may move him. I don't know what our future drafts picks are for 2025 & 2026, but we may be able to do something similar for compensation as we did for CSP. What are ya'lls thoughts?

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 988781) Where the hell you been loser?

Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint (Post 988779) I know it's a pipedream, but what would ya'll think about Tomlin as our new HC? I think with what's going on in Pittsburg that they might make a change. I do realize that the Steelers keep their coaches every 500 years, but I have a feeling that they may move him. I don't know what our future drafts picks are for 2025 & 2026, but we may be able to do something similar for compensation as we did for CSP. What are ya'lls thoughts?

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 988783) Of course this depends on the availability of other candidates and assuming we move on from DA, but I think we get younger. Ejiro Evero. Worried about a post Dennis Allen defense? This guy will take us to new heights. Ben Johnson. What he's done in Detroit is amazing. He could resurrect Carr the same way he did Goff. Press Taylor. The true mastermind in Jacksonville.

Originally Posted by mapcow (Post 988786) FailClowns!!!! love it.

Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint (Post 988779) I know it's a pipedream, but what would ya'll think about Tomlin as our new HC? I think with what's going on in Pittsburg that they might make a change. I do realize that the Steelers keep their coaches every 500 years, but I have a feeling that they may move him. I don't know what our future drafts picks are for 2025 & 2026, but we may be able to do something similar for compensation as we did for CSP. What are ya'lls thoughts?

Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint (Post 988784) I can let ya'll know that the Saints are looking to move DA & PC after this season. I know a guy that knows a guy. The outcome of the rest of this season has no barring on this decision. It has already been made.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 988797) This is what I have been thinking all along. I think all of this angst about wanting Allen gone from some fans is wasted energy. What's going to happen will happen and what we do with the remainder of this season should have no effect.

Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint (Post 988784) I can let ya'll know that the Saints are looking to move DA & PC after this season. I know a guy that knows a guy. The outcome of the rest of this season has no barring on this decision. It has already been made.

Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 988814) Tomlin will not come cheap, he still has a year left on his contract and the Steelers would likely leverage that for some draft picks.

Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 988821) Tomlin has lost the Steelers and some players aren't even trying anymore. I'm not sure that he's the guy.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 988816) They can't leverage anything if they let him go. When a coach is fired the team forfeits any rights. Payton quit on his own so the Saints retained his rights. I just can't see any scenario where Tomlin would willingly walk away from the Steelers job. Coaches get let go all the time and can go anywhere they want right away. I would imagine the vast majority coaches have time left on their contracts when cut loose.

Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 988826) I understand the differences, I don't believe the Steelers will fire Tomlin, at least not right away. Tomlin will need to either walk or play out his final year of his contract.

Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 988826) I understand the differences, I don't believe the Steelers will fire Tomlin, at least not right away. Tomlin will need to either walk or play out his final year of his contract.

Originally Posted by stickman (Post 988831) I think we could do worse than Tomlin and wouldn't be opposed to it. That said, I agree with neugey. The Saints would probably be outbid.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 988796) If Pittsburg does decide to move on from Tomlin he'd essentially be a free agent and wouldn't cost us any draft picks. Our difference with Payton was his leaving was his idea so we were able to retain his rights. That said, I'd be all in on Tomlin. Oh, and welcome back!

Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 988810) Pretty amazing information if true. BTW, glad to see you again ole friend!

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 988842) It's time for all new young blood with creative ideas. The NFL evolves. Some coaches can evolve and other can't. Let's go get someone young from a proven system.

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 988842) It's time for all new young blood with creative ideas. The NFL evolves. Some coaches can evolve and other can't. Let's go get someone young from a proven system.

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Yes, Patriots owner Robert Kraft apparently wants to have his cake and eat it when it comes to coach Bill Belichick.

Kraft is moving toward moving on, but he’s apparently hoping to get someone to trade for the coach who remains under contract through 2024. And he’s potentially trying to corner the market in offers for the coach.

Via Sports Business Journal, Tom Curran of NBC Sports Boston said Tuesday that Kraft might try to “make a bidding war emerge” for Belichick if the Patriots part ways with the coach who was hired in 2000, and who has delivered six Super Bowl wins.

As Curran notes, it could take multiple weeks for it all to unfold. And he’s right, if it doesn’t start until after the regular season ends. Other teams would have to go through the motions of a search before picking up the phone and calling the Patriots with the intent of striking a compensation deal that would allow someone to hire Belichick.

“That’s three weeks less that the new coach has to prepare the team,” Curran said. “Three weeks less that there is a personnel department with a clearly defined vision for 2024.”

Thus, Curran rightly concludes that “foot dragging for compensation is not the way to go.”

He’s right. That’s why, if a trade is going to happen (and if a bidding war is going to break out), it’s more likely to be happening now, quietly and discreetly and fully and completely behind the scenes.

All that said, Belichick has no reason to go along with any of it. He could have left as a free agent after the 2022 season. He didn’t. His position, with one year under contract, could/should be simple: Keep me or fire me.

... the best solution continues to include both sides walking away from each other after the regular season ends. No trade. No buyout. Mutual parting. Termination of contract. Patriots go their way, Belichick goes his way.

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 988850) Like Brandon Staley with the Chargers ... whoops!

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 988850) Like Brandon Staley with the Chargers ... whoops!

Originally Posted by neugey (Post 988858) Or Matt Nagy. Or Adam Gase. But it's chance worth taking if you find a Sean Payton, Mike McDaniel, Nick Sirianni or Sean McVay. Then you're cooking with gas. The upper college ranks also need to be considered more frequently. Because of the transfer portal and NIL college coaching is becoming a little more like the pro's and it's not the quantum leap it used to be.

Originally Posted by neugey (Post 988858) Or Matt Nagy. Or Adam Gase. But it's chance worth taking if you find a Sean Payton, Mike McDaniel, Nick Sirianni or Sean McVay. Then you're cooking with gas. The upper college ranks also need to be considered more frequently. Because of the transfer portal and NIL college coaching is becoming a little more like the pro's and it's not the quantum leap it used to be.

Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 988861) The chance worth taking is not what the right people in our building do anymore.

Originally Posted by leilung (Post 988873) The guy is a proven HC with 15 years under his belt. Playoff record is a real burr in his saddle, but he has been a force to be reckoned with in a tough division for many years. I would go with someone new. A fresh set of eyes and some innovation might take this team out of the old days of Pocket QB and adapt to the new reality of mobility.