2024 Saints Salary Cap Watch

BakoSaint · 01-06-2024, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by Cruize

I don't have a problem with the talent on the team. The team has a playoff caliber roster at a minimum. I don't have a problem with the cap. It's not my money and the knock on the Saints for years was it didn't take care of It's players. Making it a less likeable destination to play and to attract free agents. That's not the case anymore. The current problem in the organization is its refusal to move on from Allen. Campbell takes Goff and makes Detroit a winner. Ryan's takes a rookie QB and a horrible roster and wins in Houston. Allen is THE problem.

We aren't taking care of our own. We are taking care of the Raiders retreads.

No HOF coach in their prime could win it all with this team. We may have talent at some positions like CB and RB but where it really counts we suck. We have a mediocre retread QB who never won a playoff game, a lethargic slow motion pass rush based on the notion that 35 is the new 25, and a makeshift oline bookended by a geriatric left tackle who was forced to play guard in his prime and a right tackle with a degenerative bum knee. You have to win in the trenches or with an elite QB in the this league and the Saints are built to win with everything but those, which just won't work.

With a great coach and an average schedule this team would be about .500. We are about .500 now because the easy schedule and poor coach cancel out.

AsylumGuido · 01-26-2024, 12:58 PM

SmashMouth · 01-28-2024, 02:34 PM

https://sports.yahoo.com/32-teams-in...135429293.html

AsylumGuido · 01-28-2024, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

https://sports.yahoo.com/32-teams-in...135429293.html

It matters not how it begins, it only matters how it ends.

lee909 · 01-28-2024, 05:42 PM

We know how it ends
Kicking it down the road and guaranteeing that you can move on from aging vets or players not performing without kicking it down the road again.

AsylumGuido · 01-28-2024, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

We know how it ends
Kicking it down the road and guaranteeing that you can move on from aging vets or players not performing without kicking it down the road again.

All the while being able to feel like you are good enough to be in every game. Good enough to not suffer through multiple seasons of three or four wins like really suck ass franchises. I remember when we knew we had no chance in certain games. Those days are two decades in the past.

Besides, we're not kicking any cans. We're maximizing the cap by accounting for it in later periods when it counts as a far smaller percentage. Smart accounting. In other words, consistent competitive teams for a value enhanced price.

lee909 · 01-28-2024, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

In other words, consistent competitive teams for a value enhanced price.

Good Lord
A competitive team isn't one that hasn't made the playoffs in 3 years, or missed the playoffs in 7 of the last 12 years.

Sinner · 01-28-2024, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by lee909

Good Lord
A competitive team isn't one that hasn't made the playoffs in 3 years, or missed the playoffs in 7 of the last 12 years.

We’re competitive against teams that $uck @ss less than us, and that’s Quido’s sad logic. Wait until next year. There will be pain.

Mr.Riaton · 01-28-2024, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

All the while being able to feel like you are good enough to be in every game. Good enough to not suffer through multiple seasons of three or four wins like really suck ass franchises. I remember when we knew we had no chance in certain games. Those days are two decades in the past.

Besides, we're not kicking any cans. We're maximizing the cap by accounting for it in later periods when it counts as a far smaller percentage. Smart accounting. In other words, consistent competitive teams for a value enhanced price.

I’d rather kick the can a few years to rebuild something worth a f**k than be consistently mediocre

K Major · 01-28-2024, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton

I’d rather kick the can a few years to rebuild something worth a f**k than be consistently mediocre

Sadly, some (a small few) are simply ok with participation trophies.

Starting with the Saints front office & keeping substitutes disguised as Head Coaches

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01-06-2024, 04:16 PM	#11
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,135	Re: 2024 Saints Salary Cap Watch Originally Posted by Cruize I don't have a problem with the talent on the team. The team has a playoff caliber roster at a minimum. I don't have a problem with the cap. It's not my money and the knock on the Saints for years was it didn't take care of It's players. Making it a less likeable destination to play and to attract free agents. That's not the case anymore. The current problem in the organization is its refusal to move on from Allen. Campbell takes Goff and makes Detroit a winner. Ryan's takes a rookie QB and a horrible roster and wins in Houston. Allen is THE problem. We aren't taking care of our own. We are taking care of the Raiders retreads. No HOF coach in their prime could win it all with this team. We may have talent at some positions like CB and RB but where it really counts we suck. We have a mediocre retread QB who never won a playoff game, a lethargic slow motion pass rush based on the notion that 35 is the new 25, and a makeshift oline bookended by a geriatric left tackle who was forced to play guard in his prime and a right tackle with a degenerative bum knee. You have to win in the trenches or with an elite QB in the this league and the Saints are built to win with everything but those, which just won't work. With a great coach and an average schedule this team would be about .500. We are about .500 now because the easy schedule and poor coach cancel out.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,212	Re: 2024 Saints Salary Cap Watch Originally Posted by SmashMouth https://sports.yahoo.com/32-teams-in...135429293.html It matters not how it begins, it only matters how it ends.

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01-28-2024, 06:23 PM	#16
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,212	Re: 2024 Saints Salary Cap Watch Originally Posted by lee909 We know how it ends Kicking it down the road and guaranteeing that you can move on from aging vets or players not performing without kicking it down the road again. All the while being able to feel like you are good enough to be in every game. Good enough to not suffer through multiple seasons of three or four wins like really suck ass franchises. I remember when we knew we had no chance in certain games. Those days are two decades in the past. Besides, we're not kicking any cans. We're maximizing the cap by accounting for it in later periods when it counts as a far smaller percentage. Smart accounting. In other words, consistent competitive teams for a value enhanced price.

01-28-2024, 06:39 PM	#17
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: 2024 Saints Salary Cap Watch Originally Posted by AsylumGuido In other words, consistent competitive teams for a value enhanced price. Good Lord A competitive team isn't one that hasn't made the playoffs in 3 years, or missed the playoffs in 7 of the last 12 years. MatthewT, Sinner and K Major like this.

01-28-2024, 06:43 PM	#18
Sinner 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,873	Re: 2024 Saints Salary Cap Watch Originally Posted by lee909 Good Lord A competitive team isn't one that hasn't made the playoffs in 3 years, or missed the playoffs in 7 of the last 12 years. We’re competitive against teams that $uck @ss less than us, and that’s Quido’s sad logic. Wait until next year. There will be pain. MatthewT, K Major and Mr.Riaton like this.
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01-28-2024, 06:50 PM	#19
Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,264	Re: 2024 Saints Salary Cap Watch Originally Posted by AsylumGuido All the while being able to feel like you are good enough to be in every game. Good enough to not suffer through multiple seasons of three or four wins like really suck ass franchises. I remember when we knew we had no chance in certain games. Those days are two decades in the past. Besides, we're not kicking any cans. We're maximizing the cap by accounting for it in later periods when it counts as a far smaller percentage. Smart accounting. In other words, consistent competitive teams for a value enhanced price. I’d rather kick the can a few years to rebuild something worth a f**k than be consistently mediocre MatthewT, leilung and K Major like this.

01-28-2024, 07:12 PM	#20
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2024 Saints Salary Cap Watch Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton I’d rather kick the can a few years to rebuild something worth a f*k than be consistently mediocre Sadly, some (a small few) are simply ok with participation* trophies. Starting with the Saints front office & keeping substitutes disguised as Head Coaches . Sinner and Mr.Riaton like this.