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But it is a team that has a chance at winning every single game in which they take the field whether they win it or not. Many a competitive team fails to make the playoffs. That is the nature of the NFL. Give me a team that makes the playoffs half the years for the rest of my life I'll be pleased. More would be better, of course, but I have followed this team religiously since they started out making the playoffs only five times in our first 39 years and never wavered. The past 19 years under Loomis have been fantastic and I hope we continue being competitive and win a few more Lombardi's before I kick off.

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Translation- I love being mediocre

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It is almost fascinating. Truly.

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It truly is. Most fans talk super bowl…he’s just happy to make it to the playoffs. We are not the same

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He’s actually happy that we’re NOT in the playoffs.

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You know what this may seem harsh to some but its the truth.
I have only followed this teams for nearly 15 years and its was on the back on watching the Falcons game back in the Dome on TV late one night and the Superbowl run and story that went with it, its wasn't if they won or lost but the memories of listening in the radio to the Vikings game

But being happy with being competitive and the ive lived through really bad years is why certain teams in all sports are perennial losers, they may get a few good years and then they sink back into mediocrity. Teams that have winning cultures stay at the top, they may drop off a few years but they generally bounce back and are competitive more often than not. The fan base doesn't allow them to drift, it demands change and will not let anyone from the owners to the players become bigger than the team or ruin the team


Being happy with a 'competitive team' and being better than years ago isn't what makes a good team. Having a team that has few draft picks,no cap space and is vastly overpaying vets or keeping them beyond their sell by date because you can't cut them and a head coach with a 27-55-0 isn't what makes a competitive good team. Having a team that is 80ml over the cap and having the restraucture a mediocre QB to the team for even more years isn't what makes agood team. Nor is already being 40ml over for 2025 with 43 players under contract, before these restructures is you guessed it, not what makes a good team.


My Soccer/Football team was bought out in 2005 by Tom Hicks and George Gillette two MLB/NHL team owners. They leveraged the debt on the club and 5 years later the teams was falling apart and they debt have grown and grown. The fans hit back and went after the banks that were going to give them the finances to carry on. A email campaign happened and its starved the owners of the finance needed to renew the loans and forced a sale to the current Red Sox owners. Since then i have watched them win just about every single trophy available to them because mediocrity isn't accepted. Losing big games, getting better is, just existing in mid table isn't and never should be. Not unless you think everyone deserve a medal for participating

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This is where we differ, I suppose. To some fans winning all is the only thing that matters. They say they can live with a series of dismal losing years as long as winning it all can be a reality (at least in their minds).

Personally, I'd rather win the vast majority of home games every year for twenty years while making the playoffs a majority of those years even if it means never being a favorite to win it all over that period over sucking three or four years in a row every ten years while winning it all once or twice in that same twenty year period.

The sum total of all of those winning games while I'm sitting in the Dome watching my Saints adds up to far more enjoyment than watching the team win a Super Bowl on TV while suffering through full seasons of losing in person. So, yes, I guess you can say that I can be happy with that sort of mediocrity. The drive home after a win is a million times more enjoyable than a drive home after losing a game that you really had no chance of winning since you were in the middle of yet another "rebuild".

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You are not sitting in the middle of a rebuild. It is a repeat.
“Just keep doing what you’re doing.”

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Just another sign that more and more franchises are moving to the cap accounting methodology developed by Loomis and Harley of the Saints. I wouldn't be surprised if a majority of the league will have adopted this approach within the next decade.

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Let's not act like the Saints' approach is the gold standard.

Yes other teams employ the accounting tactic but correlation does not imply causation. It certainly doesn't equal championships.

This franchise has won 10+ games in 4 of the last 10 seasons. So I wouldn't go crowning anyone "Genius"...