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PC is clueless! DA is the walking dead! Oh no! We suck! somebody please send the game film to Loomis to look at. He obviously doesn't watch the games.

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+1. That Rams schedule has been brutal.

Chargers, Niners (twice), Seahawks, Eagles, Ravens, Cowboys were tough opponents.

Sadly, the Saints couldn't take advantage of their cupcake schedule. :rolleyes:

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It's all on the coaches shoulders. We need to fire Dennis Allen and Petey Carmichael this offseason.but, alas......keep chopping wood. It's going to be a cold winter.

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Rez -

I noticed that Dennis benched Alontae Taylor last night. Sean McVay/Highland Park was picking on him quite a bit but was he performing that poorly?

My concern is that once you lose confidence as a young DB, it's over.

Your thoughts?

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Benches Taylor for getting beat in coverage.


Doesn't bench Carr in prior game when he only had 37 yards passing in 3 quarters.


Allen logic/hypocrisy at its finest and that's the bigger problem, not actually the benching itself.

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For what it's worth, there are some things people are upset about from last night's game that I'm less hostile about -

1) The stat-padding when the game was out of reach - I called out Brees and Payton on this on multiple occasions in the past and was one of the few to do it. Who knows, we might have gotten one more season out of Brees without all the garbage time yards on his arm and also gotten more training for his backups. Didn't like it when Carr did it either ... but I think others should keep that same energy when better teams/QB's do it too.

2) The onside kick attempt - Given that we had recently had a big special teams play in the game and had some momentum in that regard, I didn't mind that much giving it a shot.

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I had concerns about Taylor in the slot from the moment I started hearing he was working there. Slot corner is a completely different world. I wouldn’t say he’s done though. A benching can make you or break you depending on your personality. We won’t know that until next year though. There’s nothing he can do at this very moment to get where he needs to be as a player.

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But hey, Mrs. B gave him a game ball... so he's got that going for him... which is nice.

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Stocking stuffer since there is room without the ring.

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I do like what I see out of Jordan Howden.

He always seems to battle and contest passes, and he's played in the slot at times.

Maybe that's the way forward. Alontae has struggled for a while, it was just very noticeable Vs the Rams.

He is quite frankly awful at tackling. PJ Williams wasn't great, but he was a good tackling corner.

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Fire the entire coaching staff, Loomis and bench Carr! We need to get a QB with our first pick in the draft!!!

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The Saints regime is obsessed with positional flexibility to its own detriment. They don't draft or develop players to play a position, they draft and develop them to be able to theoretically fall back to another position that is not their primary skill to cover for the management if they are a bust or not ever needed at their primary position. Mickey Loomis loves to trade up in the draft, good ole 'make it happen Loomis' and this gives us less picks and thus less young depth, so Mickey's answer to this is sales pitching every player as a backup at multiple positions on the depth chart to fake the depth that his draft trades deny us. Every team has some flexibility, and every player may need to step in, but the Saints are zealots with this, and transitions that often won't work out are pursued like as if they were an article of religious faith.

Alontae Taylor is an edge corner, yet we draft him and force him into a position that is not his skill set. Headley, while a questionable punter, is a horrible holder, but we won't give the duties to one of our 3 backup QBs, because we think we can teach every old dog new tricks. Taysom Hill is anything but a tight end, but we don't want to pay big money to a backup at QB and WR so we call him one. For years on oline whenever one player went down we shuffled 2-3 around and changed the whole line to sell our BS on positional flexibility. We drafted 2 centers and played one out of position. We might have won the division last year if Peat was at his true position of LT and Hurst was LG but we never tried that because having Peat at LG helped sell our BS of our coaches genius in teaching players new positions. We gave Johnson and Ruiz bad contracts based on a small sample size of slightly better than mediocre play against weak competition because they backed our narrative of our coaches genius at changing players positions, which helped justify our ability to not need as many draft picks, so Loomis could trade up for busts.

I think Taylor is fine but he is an edge corner. If we want a slot corner, we should not trade up in the draft, and then we can select one on day 2 or day 3 in the draft with the picks we still have. But Mickey Loomis prefers golfing with a full ice chest those days, so he would rather trade up and clear his schedule for some Mickey time.

Maybe if Carr does not work out as a starting QB, he could hold for kicks next year. Just if it doesn't work out, move on, don't press it like Taylor as a slot corner. Taylor has looked good at edge where he could be a good replacement eventually for an aging Lattimore, a soon to be pricey Adebo, or a net us a comp pick if he looks good in backup duty at edge. Let him focus on his true skill, just like Carr as a holder.

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Carr can hold a towel in one hand, and Dennis Allen’s letter of resignation in the other, and it would be a better Holiday.

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I would accommodate him. Year this team apart and start over. If we lost to the falcons this year we are bound for rebuild anyway.

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I wonder how well he'd be playing on the boundary? What is the deal with this team playing players out of position? I know that they want their best three corners on the field but with Lattimore out he should be on the boundary where he played well. Maybe this experiment of DA's isn't mad genius after all! :roll:

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Taylor did well with WR2's last year with all of the injuries. I guess with Adebo showing out, it was hard to put him back there except in Nickle.

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Adebo definitely outplayed him on the boundary and both looked good. Now Taylor is benched! Typical Saints football.

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