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Sinner 12-21-2023 10:34 PM

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Pathetic. PERIOD.

voodooido 12-21-2023 10:36 PM

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Just flat out poor play calling and game management. They are not using the weapons on offense. Coaching staff needs to go. Just poor freaking play calling across the board.

stickman 12-21-2023 10:37 PM

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The only reason it was only by 8 is because the Rams took their foot off the gas. Could have been much worse.

Sinner 12-21-2023 10:39 PM

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I don’t know how y’all can stand looking at Dennis Allen’s face anymore. Seriously.

vtiger72 12-21-2023 10:42 PM

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The problem is we have a mediocre team with a mediocre QB. Cap situation is what it is. It's time to bite the bullet, and have a bad year or two to reset the cap and rebuild. No one will like it, but it's what needs to be done.

K Major 12-21-2023 10:46 PM

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You forgot we have a terrible HC who does not know how to win at
situational football.

The Saints will NEVER become true contenders until Dennis Allen is gone.

We’re too afraid to make changes & you see the result.

Sinner 12-21-2023 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by vtiger72 (Post 989167)
The problem is we have a mediocre team with a mediocre QB. Cap situation is what it is. It's time to bite the bullet, and have a bad year or two to reset the cap and rebuild. No one will like it, but it's what needs to be done.

Our bad year was last year. This year makes two… maybe two or three more? “Just keep doing what you’re doing”

keithday123 12-21-2023 10:49 PM

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I hope someone in the press starts calling DA out and asking the tough questions and not treating the fans like idiots. The right people are not in the building and these guys need to start asking the tough questions and pushing for more answers. We are not idiots yet they continue to try and convince us we are. Starting to wonder if this administration is being run by the Biden camp.

neugey 12-21-2023 10:52 PM

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- The call to go for it before the half on 4th and 5 with a bum play call instead of punting was the obvious backbreaker
- Not finding a way to get Taysom involved was criminal. He needed more plays at HB and WR/TE.
- Carr's accuracy wasn't too bad tonight until it went awry after halftime. And he didn't get the weird jittery thing as much. But he still needs to step up in the pocket, it was wide open all night to step up in the pocket or scramble to salvage the play.
- OL pass blocking wasn't too bad all things considered, but the run-blocking has become a big nothingburger.
- Pass rush was horrid. Granderson was running on fumes on a short week, and Cam is a shell of his former self (with the ankle partially to blame).
- Our block-shedding on run support was terrible. It was never more evident than the Puka run where he broke Adebo's tackle and even with his momentum stopped no one could get off a darn block.
- Lousy vanilla play calls on 4th downs where we needed better calls or just not go for it.
- We don't use near enough motion on our offense.
- Adebo and Jordan Howden and our special teams (punt block) seem to be only bright spots I can think of.

mjf150 12-21-2023 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by keithday123 (Post 989170)
Starting to wonder if this administration is being run by the Biden camp.

:rofl::rofl:

Sinner 12-21-2023 10:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by neugey (Post 989171)
- The call to go for it before the half on 4th and 5 with a bum play call instead of punting was the obvious backbreaker
- Not finding a way to get Taysom involved was criminal. He needed more plays at HB and WR/TE.
- Carr's accuracy wasn't too bad tonight until it went awry after halftime. And he didn't get the weird jittery thing as much. But he still needs to step up in the pocket, it was wide open all night to step up in the pocket or scramble to salvage the play.
- OL pass blocking wasn't too bad all things considered, but the run-blocking has become a big nothingburger.
- Pass rush was horrid. Granderson was running on fumes on a short week, and Cam is a shell of his former self (with the ankle partially to blame).
- Our block-shedding on run support was terrible. It was never more evident than the Puka run where he broke Adebo's tackle and even with his momentum stopped no one could get off a darn block.
- Lousy vanilla play calls on 4th downs where we needed better calls or just not go for it.
- We don't use near enough motion on our offense.
- Adebo and Jordan Howden and our special teams (punt block) seem to be only bright spots I can think of.

You speak as if any of that matters to ownership. It doesn’t.

mjf150 12-21-2023 10:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by neugey (Post 989171)
- Not finding a way to get Taysom involved was criminal. He needed more plays at HB and WR/TE.

Tru dat!

keithday123 12-21-2023 11:00 PM

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Taysom should be starting QB without question.

Sinner 12-21-2023 11:03 PM

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Nah this is bad. At every level.

mjf150 12-21-2023 11:06 PM

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Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Joe Montana, Dan Marino, Terry Bradshaw, (insert your QB here) could not play well behind that O-Line.

keithday123 12-21-2023 11:06 PM

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I’ve been a Saints fan for over 40 years. Wore bag on my head, was there for first playoff game in ‘87. Was in Chicago for first NFC championship, saw Hakim drop the ball, and the Nola no call. However, I have never been as angry at this team and organization as I am right now. Bree’s and Payton never had a roster this talented in all there years and this bozo coach and stiff at QB can’t even win games with this POS schedule. Horrible, terrible, sickening.

Sinner 12-21-2023 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by keithday123 (Post 989183)
I’ve been a Saints fan for over 40 years. Wore bag on my head, was there for first playoff game in ‘87. Was in Chicago for first NFC championship, saw Hakim drop the ball, and the Nola no call. However, I have never been as angry at this team and organization as I am right now. Bree’s and Payton never had a roster this talented in all there years and this bozo coach and stiff at QB can’t even win games with this POS schedule. Horrible, terrible, sickening.

Say it loud… for the Quidos in the back…

keithday123 12-21-2023 11:09 PM

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O-line is not great no question, however when your QB refuses to move up in the pocket or out of the pocket to avoid some pressure it makes line look that much worse. How many times did Stafford old ass leave the pocket tonight and make throws. Line doesn’t look half bad when your QB can do that.

Sinner 12-21-2023 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mjf150 (Post 989182)
Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Joe Montana, Dan Marino, Terry Bradshaw, (insert your QB here) could not play well behind that O-Line.

I’ll take any one of the guys you mentioned TOMORROW, AS IS, with a mannequin on the sidelines as a Head Coach, and that O-line would turn out just fine.

keithday123 12-21-2023 11:15 PM

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Drew played pretty well behind same guys

neugey 12-21-2023 11:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by keithday123 (Post 989170)
I hope someone in the press starts calling DA out and asking the tough questions and not treating the fans like idiots. The right people are not in the building and these guys need to start asking the tough questions and pushing for more answers. We are not idiots yet they continue to try and convince us we are. Starting to wonder if this administration is being run by the Biden camp.


Hunter Biden's camp or Joe Biden's camp? :)

keithday123 12-21-2023 11:32 PM

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Same old questions. “Hey coach what went into your decision making on that 4th down call”? Ok great answer coach, have a great day.

Man this staff really has me pissed tonight. I very seldom ever post in here. Thanks for letting me vent guys.

K Major 12-21-2023 11:40 PM

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Probably not the popular opinion but Alvin Kamara looks like he's checked out on this team and coach.

Don't be surprised if he requests a trade in the off season.

keithday123 12-21-2023 11:45 PM

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And I don’t blame him. Sorry, I know that’s not a popular statement and every player should play hard every play, but at some point when you are an employee and your manager sucks you kinda lose the drive to work for the company.

4everSaint 12-22-2023 12:12 AM

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I hope 8 points is enough to at least pull out a nail to aim at the coffin. Was happier when the margin was wider.

Only two more losses to go. Have faith we can do this.

SmashMouth 12-22-2023 02:26 AM

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saintsfan1976 12-22-2023 05:16 AM

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30-7 in the 4th quarter.

Out-matched across the board.

Time for change.

SmashMouth 12-22-2023 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by keithday123 (Post 989194)
Same old questions. “Hey coach what went into your decision making on that 4th down call”? Ok great answer coach, have a great day.

Man this staff really has me pissed tonight. I very seldom ever post in here. Thanks for letting me vent guys.

Come post more often . :bng:

leilung 12-22-2023 06:22 AM

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Remember that this game was mismanaged and poorly coached from the moment that they went for it on 4th down with a minute left in the 1st half.

Saints (thankfully) were only down by 3 and had a win within reach.
Bad coaching decisions from there on out. I've seen enough. Merry Christmas.

dizzle88 12-22-2023 06:36 AM

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In my opinion, this game showed the difference between a 7-7 team in arguably the toughest division, versus a 7-7 team in a pancake division with the easiest schedule in the league.

We were hilariously outmatched and I wish the Rams didn't take their foot off the gas.

Same complaints about this team as I've had since the beginning.

DA has to go.
Carr is just immobile and inaccurate - seriously that pick, he threw the exact same one Vs Carolina in week 2, with the exact same result.

Defense is old, gets gashed by running backs and DB's had no answer for their WR's.

Far, Far too easy for Rams offense.

jnormand 12-22-2023 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 989166)
I don’t know how y’all can stand looking at Dennis Allen’s face anymore. Seriously.

Dude, no offense, but who are you talking to? I think it’s pretty clear (well before this game) that the large majority of this forum wants him gone. You’re just preaching to the choir.

I have a hard time believing that the large majority of fans don’t feel the same way.

At times it starts to feel like you’re throwing **** in everyone else’s face about something that they agree with you on.

Aside from Queefo, I’m not sure who wants this coaching staff to remain in place, but they are few and far between.

WW_Who_Dat 12-22-2023 06:51 AM

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James Skrmetta VLog

https://youtu.be/dR1sPRqbINk?si=kfxRhKwkgByf1ch_

claus808 12-22-2023 06:58 AM

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That pass to Foster for a first down was absolute ****, (3rd quarter I think)? Luckily Foster managed to wheel it in. Carr is his own worst enemy. I had such high hopes for him. Last nights game sealed the deal for me. But hey.... Who Dat till I die!:bng:

claus808 12-22-2023 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Sinner (Post 989166)
I don’t know how y’all can stand looking at Dennis Allen’s face anymore. Seriously.

I'm with you. DA just doesn't have that fire to be a head coach. Player's have checked out. Miss you Payton/Drew:cry:

WW_Who_Dat 12-22-2023 07:08 AM

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James Skrmetta VLog

https://youtu.be/dR1sPRqbINk?si=kfxRhKwkgByf1ch_

papz 12-22-2023 07:33 AM

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We've committed over 45 million dollars to the quarterback position this season.

We signed Williams who we don't use.

We drafted Miller who has been a waste of a draft pick.

This game was a lot uglier than the final score.



The problems have always started at the top. I think it’s pretty much a given both Allen and Carmichael are living on borrowed time. But can we really trust the front office to make the right hires? 2009 was a long time ago. The time for a fresh start all the way around has been overdue for quite a few years now.

K Major 12-22-2023 08:23 AM

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I knew it would be bad when the Rams went on a 95 yard td drive 😳.

mapcow 12-22-2023 08:48 AM

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Queefo..... :rofl:

Sinner 12-22-2023 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jnormand (Post 989208)
Dude, no offense, but who are you talking to? I think it’s pretty clear (well before this game) that the large majority of this forum wants him gone. You’re just preaching to the choir.

I have a hard time believing that the large majority of fans don’t feel the same way.

At times it starts to feel like you’re throwing **** in everyone else’s face about something that they agree with you on.

Aside from Queefo, I’m not sure who wants this coaching staff to remain in place, but they are few and far between.

Well, I’m clearly not talking to you.

K Major 12-22-2023 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by dizzle88 (Post 989207)
Carr is just immobile and inaccurate - seriously that pick, he threw the exact same one Vs Carolina in week 2, with the exact same result.

And he also took a critical sack that moved the Saints out of FG position.

As a 10 year vet QB, he should know better.

What's also baffling is that our coaches gave Sean McVay's offense good field position with all 3 timeouts remaining.

This turned in to a 10 point lead, and the Rams got the ball back to start the 2nd half & more momentum.

This ^^ is exactly what I'm referring to when I say Allen has no situational football awareness.


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