Jon Gruden?

mjf150 · 12-24-2023, 08:09 AM

What about Superbowl-winning coach Jon Gruden? He has a connection to the Saints organization and he has the same distain for Roger Goodell.

MatthewT · 12-24-2023, 08:19 AM

I'd offer him a full time job as an offensive assistant / QB coach.

BakoSaint · 12-24-2023, 09:48 AM

A coach has never won the Super Bowl with two different franchises so I would not bet on that happening. Also when a coach reaches a certain age they start to get very tired when Matlock comes on the air so its hard to spend those midnight hours innovating new schemes, fixing whats not yet broken, and bringing young assistants up to speed so they just stick to what they know to manage the reduced hours they can handle. To push to create something new they need to be really hungry, and usually its only the ones who have not won before who are able to do that like Reid and Vermeil, and then they build a new thing that works with their current players and run that until those players are too old. Gruden is surely an upgrade over DA, but I don't like his odds to win it all.

K Major · 12-24-2023, 09:57 AM

IDK but it would be nice to have a coach with any type
of passion. FWIW, Gruden went 22-31 his 2nd time around.

It’s time to go with completely new ideas & concepts.

Preferably someone from Shanahan’s coaching tree.

neugey · 12-24-2023, 10:20 AM

Hard pass.

Nothing to do with Chucky himself. I'd just rather NOT have a coach that the NFL actively despises. Especially if he does well with his lawsuit.

Rugby Saint II · 12-24-2023, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

A coach has never won the Super Bowl with two different franchises so I would not bet on that happening. Also when a coach reaches a certain age they start to get very tired when Matlock comes on the air so its hard to spend those midnight hours innovating new schemes, fixing whats not yet broken, and bringing young assistants up to speed so they just stick to what they know to manage the reduced hours they can handle. To push to create something new they need to be really hungry, and usually its only the ones who have not won before who are able to do that like Reid and Vermeil, and then they build a new thing that works with their current players and run that until those players are too old. Gruden is surely an upgrade over DA, but I don't like his odds to win it all.

Matlock was good. But I never saw him shoot a bad guy. So, it's not worth watching again. He's no Barnaby Jones! Now, that guy could roll down a hill fire his revolver six times and kill eight bad guys!

lee909 · 12-24-2023, 12:45 PM

No

Just like the roster, needs to get younger.

shawnkytonk · 12-26-2023, 01:45 PM

No

SmashMouth · 12-26-2023, 02:24 PM

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MatthewT · 12-26-2023, 02:34 PM

After TB takes care of their business, hopefully that will open the door for Haener to start against Atlanta.

12-24-2023, 08:09 AM	#1
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12-24-2023, 08:19 AM	#2
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,706	Re: Jon Gruden? I'd offer him a full time job as an offensive assistant / QB coach.

12-24-2023, 09:48 AM	#3
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 1,765	Re: Jon Gruden? A coach has never won the Super Bowl with two different franchises so I would not bet on that happening. Also when a coach reaches a certain age they start to get very tired when Matlock comes on the air so its hard to spend those midnight hours innovating new schemes, fixing whats not yet broken, and bringing young assistants up to speed so they just stick to what they know to manage the reduced hours they can handle. To push to create something new they need to be really hungry, and usually its only the ones who have not won before who are able to do that like Reid and Vermeil, and then they build a new thing that works with their current players and run that until those players are too old. Gruden is surely an upgrade over DA, but I don't like his odds to win it all.
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12-24-2023, 09:57 AM	#4
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,060 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Jon Gruden? IDK but it would be nice to have a coach with any type of passion. FWIW, Gruden went 22-31 his 2nd time around. It’s time to go with completely new ideas & concepts. Preferably someone from Shanahan’s coaching tree. Rugby Saint II likes this.

12-24-2023, 10:20 AM	#5
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,606 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Jon Gruden? Hard pass. Nothing to do with Chucky himself. I'd just rather NOT have a coach that the NFL actively despises. Especially if he does well with his lawsuit. saintsfan1976 and Rugby Saint II like this.

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12-24-2023, 12:25 PM	#6
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,760	Re: Jon Gruden? Originally Posted by BakoSaint A coach has never won the Super Bowl with two different franchises so I would not bet on that happening. Also when a coach reaches a certain age they start to get very tired when Matlock comes on the air so its hard to spend those midnight hours innovating new schemes, fixing whats not yet broken, and bringing young assistants up to speed so they just stick to what they know to manage the reduced hours they can handle. To push to create something new they need to be really hungry, and usually its only the ones who have not won before who are able to do that like Reid and Vermeil, and then they build a new thing that works with their current players and run that until those players are too old. Gruden is surely an upgrade over DA, but I don't like his odds to win it all. Matlock was good. But I never saw him shoot a bad guy. So, it's not worth watching again. He's no Barnaby Jones! Now, that guy could roll down a hill fire his revolver six times and kill eight bad guys! iceshack149 likes this.

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