Jon Gruden?

mjf150 · 12-24-2023, 08:09 AM

What about Superbowl-winning coach Jon Gruden? He has a connection to the Saints organization and he has the same distain for Roger Goodell.

MatthewT · 12-24-2023, 08:19 AM

I'd offer him a full time job as an offensive assistant / QB coach.

BakoSaint · 12-24-2023, 09:48 AM

A coach has never won the Super Bowl with two different franchises so I would not bet on that happening. Also when a coach reaches a certain age they start to get very tired when Matlock comes on the air so its hard to spend those midnight hours innovating new schemes, fixing whats not yet broken, and bringing young assistants up to speed so they just stick to what they know to manage the reduced hours they can handle. To push to create something new they need to be really hungry, and usually its only the ones who have not won before who are able to do that like Reid and Vermeil, and then they build a new thing that works with their current players and run that until those players are too old. Gruden is surely an upgrade over DA, but I don't like his odds to win it all.

Rugby Saint II · 12-24-2023, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

A coach has never won the Super Bowl with two different franchises so I would not bet on that happening. Also when a coach reaches a certain age they start to get very tired when Matlock comes on the air so its hard to spend those midnight hours innovating new schemes, fixing whats not yet broken, and bringing young assistants up to speed so they just stick to what they know to manage the reduced hours they can handle. To push to create something new they need to be really hungry, and usually its only the ones who have not won before who are able to do that like Reid and Vermeil, and then they build a new thing that works with their current players and run that until those players are too old. Gruden is surely an upgrade over DA, but I don't like his odds to win it all.

Matlock was good. But I never saw him shoot a bad guy. So, it's not worth watching again. He's no Barnaby Jones! Now, that guy could roll down a hill fire his revolver six times and kill eight bad guys!

bobdog86 · 12-26-2023, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Matlock was good. But I never saw him shoot a bad guy. So, it's not worth watching again. He's no Barnaby Jones! Now, that guy could roll down a hill fire his revolver six times and kill eight bad guys!

Barnaby Jones was formidable indeed, I think Mcloud was my guy, any dude come galloping through Central Park on a NYC cops horse wearing the Marlboro guys coat, chasing a bad guy was just awesome. But definitely would take Barnaby, even if he was sporting the Clampett hat

leilung · 12-26-2023, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by bobdog86

Barnaby Jones was formidable indeed, I think Mcloud was my guy, any dude come galloping through Central Park on a NYC cops horse wearing the Marlboro guys coat, chasing a bad guy was just awesome. But definitely would take Barnaby, even if he was sporting the Clampett hat

But could he dive roll out of a moving car in during his Theme Song?

Mannix could!

Sinner · 12-26-2023, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by leilung

But could he dive roll out of a moving car in during his Theme Song?

Mannix could!

Now Drew Brees… HE could roll out.

bobdog86 · 12-26-2023, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by leilung

But could he dive roll out of a moving car in during his Theme Song?

Mannix could!

Great call, that bastard could do just about anything including getting his azz kicked in just about every episode.

Rugby Saint II · 12-27-2023, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by leilung

But could he dive roll out of a moving car in during his Theme Song?

Mannix could!

Mannix was a cool dude. I often wondered if he and his secretary, Peggy, had a thing going on.

Oh wait, did we just date ourselves? Lol

K Major · 12-24-2023, 09:57 AM

IDK but it would be nice to have a coach with any type
of passion. FWIW, Gruden went 22-31 his 2nd time around.

It’s time to go with completely new ideas & concepts.

Preferably someone from Shanahan’s coaching tree.

12-24-2023, 08:09 AM	#1
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12-24-2023, 08:19 AM	#2
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BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 1,779	Re: Jon Gruden? A coach has never won the Super Bowl with two different franchises so I would not bet on that happening. Also when a coach reaches a certain age they start to get very tired when Matlock comes on the air so its hard to spend those midnight hours innovating new schemes, fixing whats not yet broken, and bringing young assistants up to speed so they just stick to what they know to manage the reduced hours they can handle. To push to create something new they need to be really hungry, and usually its only the ones who have not won before who are able to do that like Reid and Vermeil, and then they build a new thing that works with their current players and run that until those players are too old. Gruden is surely an upgrade over DA, but I don't like his odds to win it all.
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12-24-2023, 12:25 PM	#4
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,792	Re: Jon Gruden? Originally Posted by BakoSaint A coach has never won the Super Bowl with two different franchises so I would not bet on that happening. Also when a coach reaches a certain age they start to get very tired when Matlock comes on the air so its hard to spend those midnight hours innovating new schemes, fixing whats not yet broken, and bringing young assistants up to speed so they just stick to what they know to manage the reduced hours they can handle. To push to create something new they need to be really hungry, and usually its only the ones who have not won before who are able to do that like Reid and Vermeil, and then they build a new thing that works with their current players and run that until those players are too old. Gruden is surely an upgrade over DA, but I don't like his odds to win it all. Matlock was good. But I never saw him shoot a bad guy. So, it's not worth watching again. He's no Barnaby Jones! Now, that guy could roll down a hill fire his revolver six times and kill eight bad guys! iceshack149 likes this.

12-26-2023, 03:02 PM	#5
bobdog86 Site Donor Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,329	Re: Jon Gruden? Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Matlock was good. But I never saw him shoot a bad guy. So, it's not worth watching again. He's no Barnaby Jones! Now, that guy could roll down a hill fire his revolver six times and kill eight bad guys! Barnaby Jones was formidable indeed, I think Mcloud was my guy, any dude come galloping through Central Park on a NYC cops horse wearing the Marlboro guys coat, chasing a bad guy was just awesome. But definitely would take Barnaby, even if he was sporting the Clampett hat Rugby Saint II likes this.

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leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,170	Re: Jon Gruden? Originally Posted by bobdog86 Barnaby Jones was formidable indeed, I think Mcloud was my guy, any dude come galloping through Central Park on a NYC cops horse wearing the Marlboro guys coat, chasing a bad guy was just awesome. But definitely would take Barnaby, even if he was sporting the Clampett hat But could he dive roll out of a moving car in during his Theme Song? Mannix could! Rugby Saint II and bobdog86 like this.

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12-26-2023, 05:23 PM	#8
bobdog86 Site Donor Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Washington State Posts: 1,329	Re: Jon Gruden? Originally Posted by leilung But could he dive roll out of a moving car in during his Theme Song? Mannix could! Great call, that bastard could do just about anything including getting his azz kicked in just about every episode. leilung and Rugby Saint II like this.

12-27-2023, 11:56 AM	#9
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 23,792	Re: Jon Gruden? Originally Posted by leilung But could he dive roll out of a moving car in during his Theme Song? Mannix could! Mannix was a cool dude. I often wondered if he and his secretary, Peggy, had a thing going on. Oh wait, did we just date ourselves? Lol leilung likes this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,079 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Jon Gruden? IDK but it would be nice to have a coach with any type of passion. FWIW, Gruden went 22-31 his 2nd time around. It’s time to go with completely new ideas & concepts. Preferably someone from Shanahan’s coaching tree. Rugby Saint II likes this.