Ramczyk’s Future In Doubt
 

Ramcyzk, one of the highest-paid offensive tackles in the league, will talk to doctors this offseason to try and fix a 'lingering issue.' 🤕

This franchise has some dark years ahead
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...rtilage-defect

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Sounds like if he is able to continue playing he may need to be moved inside.

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Yeah inside his living room.

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"Fixing" something could very well mean it will no longer be an issue, no?

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I hope that whatever doctors he is consulting are far removed from the Saints medical staff so he can get the best and most unbiased information possible.

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While I hate to see the Saints lose a damn fine offensive lineman, I hope Mr. Ramczyk does what is best for himself. Might want to actually walk when he is older.

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He will walk. After he gets “fixed”, he’s gonna walk away.

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That is possible. I am sure that when the Saints parted ways with Willie Roaf they thought he was starting to wear down. However, Sean Payton was hired to fix Russell Wilson, and we have to be prepared for that type of fix too.

I would happy if we only drafted offensive line throughout this entire draft. Its an undervalued position. At QB you can get a Baker Mayfield for $4 million or Joe Flacco off the street or Russ Wilson probably for $10 million or less now. All you need is a good oline that you can probably only obtain in the draft to make them all look like Mahomes.

Desperate GMs dont draft oline, especially oline depth, because it isnt sexy and does not sell tickets. But we can win by doing whats smart not sexy.

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I wouldn’t mind getting a Joe Flacco off the street in time for this Sundays game.

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I hope Ramz retires. He’s been in decline for some time now.

He’s had a great 7+ years at RT.

Time for him to think about his overall quality of life.

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Facts.

Joe was sitting on the couch 4 weeks ago and is playing
better football 🏈 than Carrmaxx.

More importantly he’s winning games.

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Ramz almost didn't play but for being drafted in the first round, if my recollection is accurate. Maybe the move inside is what will allow him to play out the last three years of his contract. Move Pennington to RT and draft the best LT in the draft. Since we're thin at competent guards, plugging him in there should be a boost, even with a bum knee. Popeyes Sammich Peat should be a goner in 2024. Hope he gets some good news from his doctors.

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If there is a lot of cartilage damage microfracture surgery is probably the way to go. Maybe some stem cell treatments could help too.

Big damage to cartilage is a rought thing to fix still. It might get good enough to give you good quality of life but not neccesarily be good enough to hold up for professional sports.

I have had microfracture surgery myself with great results but from the article it seems like my injured cartilage was a much smaller patch than what Ramczyk is dealing with.

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The guys knee has been shot for a couple of years. There is no fixing that. You can delay it some more maybe. But his play is already steadily declining. He'll probably be cleared to play again next year with similar results. Unfortunately, rest days and missing game time is his recent bio. I love the guy and I am proud that he's been so good for us. Nonetheless, we have to invest heavily in the Oline in 2024.

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The NFL is a copy cat league and the Saints need to be copying off of teams that are having real success.

See the Detroit Lions offensive line & coaches.

Jamal Williams (he has done next to nothing in New Orleans) had 23 rushing TDs last season, now with him gone the Lions have 24 rushing TDs.

Again, coaching is bad in New Orleans. Doug Marrone needs to be apart of that black Monday crowd in about 10 days. Nick Saban could only stomach one season with him down in Alabama.

End rant x(

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Maybe.....just maybe Penning will be able to move to right tackle next year and be a good replacement.

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Or maybe we will pick up Tim Boyle as our new starting QB and he will throw 5000 yards and 50 td passes.

Its not impossible Penning will improve, but the the guy has been a bust so far, and its not a winning formula to depend on busts as Plan A. When you mention something first its plan A. I would say that we can draft tackles in round 1 and 2, Peat who is servicable on the left side could return if he is willing to sign for like $5 million, and if all those options fail Penning could compete with another teams bust tackle pick for a roster spot and perhaps get the job if he improves and nothing else pans out. But I wouldn't be penning my hopes on him so to speak.

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FYI, Ramz has been placed on season ending IR.

Source - Jeff Nowak

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title to this string.... should be "Saint Future in Doubt"

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I don't know why it took so long.


It seems like a player has to be eviscerated by every dinosaur in Jurassic Park before he's allowed to be placed on IR.


But this is what you get when you have a bitter lush for a GM who's fixated with Matlock reruns.

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Just sounds to me like they were hoping that he might be able to return without surgery this season. By placing him on IR it may mean he's decided to go ahead and have the surgery.

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Maybe Ram will have microfracture knee surgery, miss the entire 2024 season, and our excuse for keeping Loomis and DA in 2025 will be "Ram is coming back, put the league on alert, Championship!" Then Ram will have a setback in rehab and our 2-6 start in 2025 will be excused by "nobody could expected that injury!"

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At this rate, we’re looking at a full rebuild at around 2030, if lovely lady Gayle survives. That will be at or around the time the Saints move to another location.

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Do you go on and on about this around your wife and kids, too?

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No they are not really into football. We don't have boys. Do you go on and on about how the Saints are still going to win the Super Bowl this year and Derek Carr is still in the MVP race to your wife and kids?

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Brother, you lookin to get smacked in the hat?

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Absolutely. Just like I have my whole life. My wife goes to every game with me except the couple of times my son that lives in NOLA has gone instead. My son that performs in Nashville always wears one of his jerseys while on stage. He sings every Sunday and always makes sure one of the screens in the club is tuned into the game.

Except for the Carr part. I don't believe I have ever said he's in any running for MVP. That takes a capable offensive line. But I have always backed every player that wears the black and gold of the Saints except for fools like Gardner-Johnson and his sorry ass. :D

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Stop responding to his posts. Silence is Black and Golden!!

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I actually think CGJ even being basically 100% injured might provide more value than many players on this roster. He has fire. That is contagious. That's why a coach with fire, Campbell, wanted him. Even 100% injured that is more valuable than all these 'stick with the plan, we have the right guys, lets sport wood and chop microwaves' guys DA is assembling.

It's cool that your son plays music in clubs with TVs. A lot of other people have kids who hobbies and interests involve places without TVs, like kids who want to go camping or go to amusement parks. At this point, I am not holding any dates in January for the Saints, because reality.

I went to every game I could when I lived near New Orleans. Except I probably did skip some of the 2005 games because I got fed up with Haslett. I have the same feeling this year. Its a shame that after that year the team forced out Arnie Fielkow who publicly wanted to keep the team in New Orleans and kept Mickey Loomis who had his finger in the wind and was trying to cozy up to Rita and assure his power if the team went to San Antonio.

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There you geaux :bng:

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All of the best clubs on Broadway in Nashville have TV's. Jason Aldean's, Luke Bryan's, FGL House, Miranda Lambert's Casa Rosa, Hank Jr's, etc. Not sure about people that perform as a hobby having TV access.

At 31 he is well past the days of amusement parks, but he and his wife have camped in the Tennessee mountains. :D

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DA says Ramcyzk's knee could be a concern going into the season. Knee isn't where everyone was hoping it would be following knee surgery.

Ramz needs to call it a career.

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This is not looking as if Ramz is going to have a choice, this is not good. It's very interesting that Michael Thomas has chimed in about what basically amounts to an incompetent medical staff and how DA is covering that up. Hummmm

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So two new tackles needed minimum in tbe draft. Going to end up over paying Peat to cone back arnt they

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If we don't someone will pay him. Almost every team is in need of tackles these days.

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One of the best OT draft in a long time - PFF

Let's draft 4 and let them duke it out. Unless more cap is cleared or we trade Lattimore for a tackle it's our only choice. Ram's knee is toast and barring a miracle turnaround Penning is not an option.

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I'll bet you money that Penning will earn a starting spot. ;)

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I am just going to throw this out here even though it is sad to say in some ways. If the sole goal of the Saints front office was to win as many games as possible and get as much offensive production as possible without trading future 1st round picks or nuking the salary cap, there could be another option to improve at the offensive tackle position. While trading Lattimore is not going to get us anywhere with finding a tackle because he is already overpaid for his availability and ability, Lattimore is not the only player the Saints control on their roster. Although it would be a major blow to the team to trade an asset like Paulson Adebo or Chris Olave, their backups are much much better than Ryan Ramczyk or Andrus Peat's backups, and they would carry real trade value that could potentially net the Saints a young starting tackle or a high draft pick to acquire one. Of course one would rather trade Lattimore or Kamara, etc, but aging veterans on expensive contracts do not have as much trade value as name recognition. Bresee could be another option. If another NFL GM takes the positive view that his 2023 sack total was impressive and not the negative view that his PFF scores were mediocre and he is still listed as a backup, perhaps they would trade a late 1st round pick or starting tackle for him.

Perry or Taylor may not be great, but they sound a lot better as starters than Penning or Young.

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Would you like to bet money on the Saints record in those starts? We can take any regular season games Penning starts in 2024. If he starts none, or the Saints go .500 in his starts, its a wash. If the Saints are over .500 in his starts you win. If they are under, I win. $100?

The Saints actually were 3-2 with Penning starting in 2023 so you could look at this as a good bet. However, the 3 wins came 3 of the 7 worst teams in the NFL by 2023 record, and two were won by a field goal or less.