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SmashMouth 01-01-2024 01:37 PM

Way too early 2024 mock draft
 
https://www.windycitygridiron.com/20...couting-report

Wut? An LSU player?

K Major 01-01-2024 01:57 PM

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I have absolutely no clue what position they will target in rd 1, however a QB won’t be one of them.

T(both sides), DE, S, QB, RB, TE, LB.

We need a lot tbh.

Sinner 01-01-2024 02:15 PM

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How about a new Head Coach?

rezburna 01-01-2024 02:23 PM

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Keep an eye on Cam Ward, QB, Washington State in the later rounds. I don’t think the Saints are going to take a QB in the 1st. I think they’ll try to grab one of those LT’s.

K Major 01-02-2024 09:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 990086)
Keep an eye on Cam Ward, QB, Washington State in the later rounds. I don’t think the Saints are going to take a QB in the 1st. I think they’ll try to grab one of those LT’s.


lee909 01-08-2024 03:39 PM

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Si.com
14. New Orleans Saints
JC Latham | OT | Alabama


PFF
14. NEW ORLEANS SAINTS: ED JARED VERSE, FLORIDA STATE

Record: 9-8

Top-100 picks: 2 (1st, 2nd)

Player ADP (via MDS): 14.8
The Saints could be in for heavy turnover this offseason, but whether it’s a little or a lot, they need to invest in a difference-making edge rusher. Verse is a powerful player who can win with speed-to-power from three-point and two-point stances. He’s not quite as big as Cam Jordan, but he brings a similar all-around ceiling.



Bleacher Report
14. New Orleans Saints: OT Tyler Guyton, Oklahoma
The New Orleans Saints are in position to address a spot on the roster they thought they had settled for years to come. Unfortunately, offensive tackle isn't as sturdy as they hoped it would be.

"The Saints have typically nailed their draft picks along the offensive line, but they're coming off a potential miss in 2022 first-round pick Trevor Penning," Thorn said. "Right tackle Ryan Ramczyk is one of the team's best players. Unfortunately, a lingering knee issue has put his career in jeopardy, which makes the tackle position a sudden and immediate priority to address.

"Oklahoma's Tyler Guyton has elite size (6'7", 328 lbs) and athletic ability, but he's similarly raw, so this would carry some risk. The bet is on upside, which Guyton absolutely provides with better feet and more natural movement skills in pass protection than Penning. That could provide enough comfort for the team to come back to the tackle table so quickly."

Expectations for an impressive predraft process are baked into Guyton's rise here. He's a work in progress, but he has the necessary traits to become an elite blocker down the road.



CBS

Brock Bowers TE
GEORGIA • JR • 6'4" / 240 LBS

New Orleans

The Saints could go wide receiver here, too, but Brock Bowers feels like stealing at No. 14; I'll repeat what I wrote back on Dec. 4, in my last mock draft: "In the last 20 years, 19 tight ends have gone in the first round. Five of those were selected in the top 10 (Eric Ebron, 10th overall in 2014; T.J. Hockenson, 8th overall in 2019; Kellen Winslow II and Vernon Davis, 6th overall in 2004 and 2006; and Kyle Pitts, 4th overall in 2021). The other 14 were drafted between No. 19 and No. 32. I mention this because I think Brock Bowers is special. In fact, he's the No. 5 player on my big board. And maybe he's different; he'll be the tight end worth taking in the top 10." For now, though, I have him going in the middle of the round to New Orleans.

K Major 01-08-2024 03:42 PM

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^^^ nice selections

More importantly, possibly Day 1 starters.

neugey 01-08-2024 03:58 PM

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Draft players who have mental fortitude and don't need to be coached up. They hopefully will be impervious to DA's nonsense.

Cruize 01-09-2024 08:11 AM

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Traded down: 36 NT Sweat 45. Edge Tuimoloau 61. OG haynes 65. FS Bishop 80. OT Guyton 84. LB Eichenberg 115. RB Allen 135. LB Speights 186. QB Milton

Saints need a legit NT. Jordan and Smith aren't going to play forever. They need a bell cow of a RB. Allen is only 20. Milton has a rare arm and behind Carr he could sit a couple years. OT and OG needs upgrading and to be cheaper a couple years.

K Major 01-09-2024 02:27 PM

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I just hope we move in a different direction on who is signing off on these DEs on draft night.

Davenport, Payton Turner, Foskey (remember him?) ... suspect picks.

Rugby Saint II 01-09-2024 02:27 PM

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[QUOTE=lee909;990968]Si.com
14. New Orleans Saints
JC Latham | OT | Alabama


PFF
14. NEW ORLEANS SAINTS: ED JARED VERSE, FLORIDA STATE

Record: 9-8

Top-100 picks: 2 (1st, 2nd)

Player ADP (via MDS): 14.8
The Saints could be in for heavy turnover this offseason, but whether it’s a little or a lot, they need to invest in a difference-making edge rusher. Verse is a powerful player who can win with speed-to-power from three-point and two-point stances. He’s not quite as big as Cam Jordan, but he brings a similar all-around ceiling.



Bleacher Report
14. New Orleans Saints: OT Tyler Guyton, Oklahoma
The New Orleans Saints are in position to address a spot on the roster they thought they had settled for years to come. Unfortunately, offensive tackle isn't as sturdy as they hoped it would be.

"The Saints have typically nailed their draft picks along the offensive line, but they're coming off a potential miss in 2022 first-round pick Trevor Penning," Thorn said. "Right tackle Ryan Ramczyk is one of the team's best players. Unfortunately, a lingering knee issue has put his career in jeopardy, which makes the tackle position a sudden and immediate priority to address.

"Oklahoma's Tyler Guyton has elite size (6'7", 328 lbs) and athletic ability, but he's similarly raw, so this would carry some risk. The bet is on upside, which Guyton absolutely provides with better feet and more natural movement skills in pass protection than Penning. That could provide enough comfort for the team to come back to the tackle table so quickly."

Expectations for an impressive predraft process are baked into Guyton's rise here. He's a work in progress, but he has the necessary traits to become an elite blocker down the road.



Please Please.....no more projects on the O line.

BakoSaint 01-09-2024 02:49 PM

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I don't think we will draft a DE because the front office just signed off on unnecessary early extensions for both Jordan and Granderson who both underachieved. Also Foskey in the 2nd round and Turner appear to be busts. So drafting DE in the 1st round would draw attention to their mistakes. They would rather talk up the potential of the guys they have. If they absolutely had to draft a DE they would move Granderson or Jordan to DT as a PR thing.

Drafting a Tackle would be safer for the front office since we don't have an expensive player at LT and our RT is facing career threatening injuries they can blame on bad luck even though it was forseeable.

I am against drafting TE in the early first round because only one in the history of the NFL has ever been a difference maker for the cost, Tony Gonzalez. Most sure thing cant miss 1st round TE are busts. But the front office is dumb and may do it.

QB will probably not be drafted in the 1st for the same reason as DE, it draws attention to Carr's dumb contract.

Danno 01-09-2024 03:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 991050)
I don't think we will draft a DE because the front office just signed off on unnecessary early extensions for both Jordan and Granderson who both underachieved. Also Foskey in the 2nd round and Turner appear to be busts. So drafting DE in the 1st round would draw attention to their mistakes. They would rather talk up the potential of the guys they have. If they absolutely had to draft a DE they would move Granderson or Jordan to DT as a PR thing.

Drafting a Tackle would be safer for the front office since we don't have an expensive player at LT and our RT is facing career threatening injuries they can blame on bad luck even though it was forseeable.

I am against drafting TE in the early first round because only one in the history of the NFL has ever been a difference maker for the cost, Tony Gonzalez. Most sure thing cant miss 1st round TE are busts. But the front office is dumb and may do it.

QB will probably not be drafted in the 1st for the same reason as DE, it draws attention to Carr's dumb contract.

I'd shy away from TE too.

LT, RT, DT and BPA at CB/S/WR/OG and a late round kicker or punter if we don't address them in free agency

lee909 01-09-2024 03:08 PM

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Draft for both sides of the trenches

K Major 01-09-2024 03:25 PM

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Saints need two of everything.

And a new punter.

iceshack149 01-09-2024 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 991056)
Saints need two of everything.

And a new punter.

I'd prefer Michigan's Aussie punter over the Saints Aussie punter for sure. CB will be a huge need if the Saints do indeed trade the best CB they've ever had in Lattimore. Man, that would suck.

lee909 01-09-2024 06:48 PM

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They can't trade Lattimore till post June and it'll save a whopping 1ml on the cap. They'd be paying him millions to play elsewhere. Only way it'd worth it is a huge haul of multiple picks

rezburna 01-09-2024 06:58 PM

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I wouldn’t be mad at all if they selected Brock Bowers.

saintsfan1976 01-10-2024 10:24 AM

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Solidify the lines.

Brock is elite at the position.

Gotta rework those TE contracts or trade someone if at all possible

K Major 01-10-2024 11:17 AM

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I know nothing about Iowa football however TE's from their program excel QUICKLY at the next level.

Kittle
Fant
TJ Hockenson (134 yards vs Saints)
Sam LaPorta (already a baller as a rookie & had a career vs Saints)

Yeah, I'd start scouting the Hawkeyes first.

SmashMouth 01-10-2024 11:35 AM

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Rugby Saint II 01-15-2024 01:57 PM

Re: Way too early 2024 mock draft
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 991056)
Saints need two of everything.

And a new punter.

Quote:

Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 991063)
I'd prefer Michigan's Aussie punter over the Saints Aussie punter for sure. CB will be a huge need if the Saints do indeed trade the best CB they've ever had in Lattimore. Man, that would suck.

A rugby kick is harder to field than a regular kick. The ball tumbles differently in the air and makes catching it on the run tougher to pull off. I'm satisfied with our Aussie punter. There are schools now for punters that teach the rugby kick and we are seeing more of it in college now than ever.

His punting might look awkward to an American football fan that is unfamiliar with that style of kicking. Rather than punting straight through the ball, Hedley steps to the side and kicks it from a different body position sending the ball off at a different angle.

Lou Hedley doesn't out kick his coverage teams. He consistently pins opponents inside the twenty and makes them drive the length of the field. My only concern is that him holding for kicks might be the reason we missed some easy field goals this year. It's not something he was familiar with when he came here. Laces Out!

iceshack149 01-15-2024 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 991307)
A rugby kick is harder to field than a regular kick. The ball tumbles differently in the air and makes catching it on the run tougher to pull off. I'm satisfied with our Aussie punter. There are schools now for punters that teach the rugby kick and we are seeing more of it in college now than ever.

His punting might look awkward to an American football fan that is unfamiliar with that style of kicking. Rather than punting straight through the ball, Hedley steps to the side and kicks it from a different body position sending the ball off at a different angle.

Lou Hedley doesn't out kick his coverage teams. He consistently pins opponents inside the twenty and makes them drive the length of the field. My only concern is that him holding for kicks might be the reason we missed some easy field goals this year. It's not something he was familiar with when he came here. Laces Out!

That might be a job for Julie Haener's son next season.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images...ZO_400x400.jpg
:bng:

AsylumGuido 01-16-2024 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 991322)
That might be a job for Julie Haener's son next season.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images...ZO_400x400.jpg
:bng:

I felt like it should have been Taysom's job all along.

Rugby Saint II 01-16-2024 03:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 991322)
That might be a job for Julie Haener's son next season.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images...ZO_400x400.jpg
:bng:

Almost every young guy had a friend with a mom who's house we loved to go over and hang out whenever possible. She always had something cool or hot to drink, snacks, and there was always lots of things to do.

I'm pretty sure that Julie Haener had a full kitchen of happy young boys coming over after school and spending all afternoon at their house. But the best thing about hanging out with your friend was getting to look at his smoking hot mother! Does anyone remember the video and the song Stacey's mom?

I was raised on a ranch in high school. So, there was nowhere close to hang out with that wasn't with a relative without going into town. But, when l went to college I had a good friend, Tim, whose mom was absolutely smoking hot and somewhat overtly flirtatious. I'll never forget Tim's mom!:lightsabre:

K Major 01-27-2024 11:36 AM

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I like would I've seen from (S) Jordan Howden however we need a true FS. Someone with more range. I would have paid to keep Marcus Williams.

Another sideline to sideline assassin @ LB. Demario is good but this is a young man's game. YOUTH movement.

Try Oline again but not in the first rd. A quality starter can be found on Day 2 & 3 of the draft.

See Rams Steve Avila (G) and Bills O'Cyrus Torrence (G). Dawgs from Day 2 of the 2023 draft.

SmashMouth 01-27-2024 11:57 AM

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Need to replace Popeyes Sammich Peat...

K Major 01-27-2024 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 991977)
Need to replace Popeyes Sammich Peat...

Interesting dilema.

Probably one of our most consistent lineman in 2023 & was decent at LT.

But yeah, another aging (turns 31 this season) vet. It's time for the YOUTH MOVEMENT in New Orleans :bng:.

AsylumGuido 01-27-2024 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 991977)
Need to replace Popeyes Sammich Peat...

With what? Chances are they'll not be as good. Have you taken a very close look at the state of NFL offensive linemen across the league today? Peat would be starting on most NFL teams today. We got spoiled on Nicks and Evans. We're getting spoiled on Ruiz today. We especially got spoiled on Brees who had a way of making every offensive lineman look better than they were.

That said, by all means, we need to keep trying to get lucky on the position through the draft. Free agents at those positions are usually players that have already failed with other teams or aging veterans a few years past their prime. Anyone we draft will likely take a few years to develop. With college offenses being what they are today (shotgun, spread, etc.) very few linemen have the chance to enter the NFL anywhere near ready.

AsylumGuido 01-27-2024 01:35 PM

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I just mentioned this in another thread, but it goes better here, if the chance arises I would love to see us select LB Payton Wilson out of NCSU, the winner of this year's Chuck Bednarik award as the nation's best defensive player. Demario may only have three or four more years before he decides to hang them up and Wilson is the type of player that could take over those duties as a leader.

K Major 01-27-2024 06:45 PM

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OT
Kingsley Suamataia, BYU

Day 2 big ugly ...

Has experience playing on the left and right. Potentially a Day 1 starter. At this point, you can't go into the off season assuming Ramz will return.

Kingsley has been a high riser on the draft boards.

voodooido 01-27-2024 09:54 PM

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Thomas in round 2 would be an absolute steal

K Major 02-09-2024 08:54 AM

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Dallas Turner - DE
Alabama Crimson Tide

Some have compared his skill set to DROY Will Anderson Jr (also Bama)


K Major 02-09-2024 10:10 AM

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Over The Cap finalizes comp pick projections, with good news for Saints

K Major 02-09-2024 10:17 AM

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I'm going back to Bama here ...

JC Latham (OT)

With the uncertainty (degerative knee condition) of Ryan Ramz, gotta look to the future at RT.

JC had ZERO sacks in 13 starts at right tackle. Above average in pass protection. For a big guy, he has good quickness and agility.

His overall run blocking stats aren't too shabby either.

Projection - Day 1 starter and contributor at the next level.

rezburna 02-09-2024 10:20 AM

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17. Jared Verse, EDGE, Florida State (Traded Down)
45. Cooper Beebe, G, Kansas State
48. Leonard Taylor, DT, Miami
166. Drake Nugent, C, Michigan
168. Rasheen Ali, RB, Marshall
173. Javon Foster, OT, Missouri
191. Sincere Haynesworth, C, Tulane
200. Dwight McGlothern, CB, Arkansas
229. Tatum Bethune, LB, Florida State

K Major 02-09-2024 10:22 AM

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Jared Verse DE ... nice pick.

K Major 02-09-2024 12:31 PM

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Does new OC Kubiak target a offensive weapon in round 2 (see Deebo Samuel) ? ...

Quick takeaway here with Malichi is that he's strong.


rezburna 02-09-2024 02:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 992854)
Does new OC Kubiak target a offensive weapon in round 2 (see Deebo Samuel) ? ...

Quick takeaway here with Malichi is that he's strong.

Malachi Corley 🔥 Most Freakish WR in College Football ᴴᴰ - YouTube

I got my eye on Will Shipley.

Rugby Saint II 02-09-2024 02:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 992843)
17. Jared Verse, EDGE, Florida State (Traded Down)
45. Cooper Beebe, G, Kansas State
48. Leonard Taylor, DT, Miami
166. Drake Nugent, C, Michigan
168. Rasheen Ali, RB, Marshall
173. Javon Foster, OT, Missouri
191. Sincere Haynesworth, C, Tulane
200. Dwight McGlothern, CB, Arkansas
229. Tatum Bethune, LB, Florida State

I don't know anything about these prospects yet, but I like drafting the idea of drafting four O linemen this year. We've got to solidify the O line for Kubiak's scheme to work and he likes mobile linemen. So, we've got some work to do.


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