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All I know is that this is the 3rd consecutive season that the Saints season ends WITHOUT getting into the post season.

Yet, no coaches have lost their job yet?

Mr. Blank fired Arthur Smith before he could locate his luggage at the Atlanta Airport :rolleyes: Hell, I'm surprised Fontenot is still the GM.

Enough is enough with the rah rah speeches from Allen on how "we need to get better", "we keep fighting", yet he has no real plan.

What else does Loomis need to see?

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As i have said before, nobody worth there getting will want the job. To mould this into there team they will need 2 or 3 years with the cap issues and still trading away pick after pick every year. The schedule next year looks much harder on paper
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That could easy turn into disaster of a season unless they manager to draft extremely well and find some UDFA gems.

So without cap space, an ageing roster and not many picks most coaches will take up better oppotunities than taking on a job that they may get fired from just as they are in a position to turn them around. If he doesn't make the playoffs next year a new coach will probably look and see a top 10 pick and hopefully a slightly better cap situation

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I have many thoughts on the play but the main thing that stands out the most to me is this….upon DAs hire, I remember him talking big sh*t about how he was gonna build essentially a mentally and physically tough team. That being said, to chose to kneel it, on the one yard line at that, especially against that team, is soft and is counterproductive of the tone that you claim you want to instill in your team, especially after the season we had. I have no doubt Sean would’ve ran in down their f**king throat
I lost any respect I had left for him for his decision to kneel it as well as how he handled it afterwards.
Next season will be interesting…

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Dennis Allen apologies to the Falcons. That alone should get him blacklisted at ever restaurant in New Orleans including Taco Bell and McDonalds.

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When I saw them line up in the chicken**** "victory" formation I was pissed, but then when they ran it and scored our whole section exploded. Screw the Failclowns and Arthur Smith's fat ass.

Who Dat!!

:bng:

I wanted them to go for two. LOL!

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“Interesting” for maybe two or three games. And then there will be pain.

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If we trade our 1st round pick there will be pain all around. If we keep our pick and DA loses the team and we compete for the worst record in the league, there will be some pleasure in watch DA's demise. Then again, if we trade the pick, perhaps that will improve the odds of it being Loomis' demise too.

It could also be very entertaining if the players open rebellion continues with the open acknowledgement that the Saints cap situation ties their hands. The team could just run whatever plays they like. If Carr doesn't respect the teams vote, nobody blocks for Carr. Carmichael can go get Winston some coffee.

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And then DA had to rain on everyone's parade by throwing the players under the bus and apologizing to the Falcons.

That 100% shows a guy that does not have his teams back.

Not a leader and certainly not good enough to be a head coach. Absolute pretender.

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I will add that although I really didnt like DAs decision to kneel it, and I understand why the team chose to override the play, I don’t fully condone how they did it, mainly because players on the other side that aren’t expecting it can get seriously injured. It reminds me of when former Bucs coach Greg Schiano used to pull that crap, but on the defensive side of the ball. I get you play to the whistle, but wasn’t a big fan of that.
I just wish DA had the balls to just run it in and make a statement, especially if by some chance you make it into the playoffs, that would be a nice way to get your team primed up to at least try and make a run

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NO CONTROL ..... :beatnik: Sinner is spot on... Saints Need A New Head Coach!

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No control, no authority, no one respects this man.

Hence, the substitute.

Loomis better wake up.

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Meanwhile, Jacksonville (they embarassed us in 2023) finishes second in their division & misses out on the post season.

Guess what ownership does this morning? Jags fire the ENTIRE defensive coaching staff including the DC.

Teams that failed, missed out on the post season, under achieved are making moves to improve. But you have a N.O Saints organization that is committed to remaining mediocre & miss out on post season.

Sitting on their hands, hoping and wishing with no real plan.

Sad.

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They can hide and ignore the fans and public opinion. What they can’t run from are the hungry talented players that have a career in front of them, when they start asking to be traded is when someone will have to get off their ass and do their job.

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Turns out the "player meeting" that Loomis called, was to reaffirm their agenda.

According to Saints media, Loomis said "certain parts of the team splintered under adversity and they are investigating that"

Apparently the general message was Loomis saying, "if you aren't all in, they'll get rid of the players"

Once again, they are blaming the players for the head coach being awful. Very close to being done with this team because of poor management.

https://twitter.com/JeffDuncan_/stat...nP3vp0MrA&s=19

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We’re doomed. Mickey Loomis is about to run this franchise back into the ground.

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Literally.

Whilst other teams make changes, we are keeping a career loser with a 24-46 record.

And not only that, Loomis seems to be going out of his way to protect him against the players. Like he's Vince Lombardi or something.

I hope AK, Demario, MT13, Marshon etc all go and tell Loomis they are out. They deserve better.

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Titans just fired Mike Vrabel.

4 consecutive winning seasons, followed by 2 losing seasons.

This is the DA's first winning season, and he needed a 17 game schedule and the easiest one in the league at that, to achieve it.

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Like Lattimore? I think most of us agree that if we had to choose between Marshon and Dennis Allen we'd unanimously vote to keep Marshon.
What is the front office thinking?

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Dont' forget to mention he was Coach of The Year in 2021 ;).

And a career HC record of 56-48 (.538).

Meanwhile you have a substitute walking around Airline Dr @ 24-46 HC & his job is "safe".

Loomis, Dennis Lauscha and Gayle Benson will wake up one day :rolleyes:.

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I agree.

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Loomis can say to the players back Allen or we will get rid all he wants. He has left the team in such a state with the salary cap he won't be able to trade till till after June by which time he will have restructured all their deals and theyll be untradeable

Loomis needs his walking papers as much as Allen and he needs to take a few of the scouts with him

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That's a phone call I'd make as soon as I get the news. Vrabel would be a solid pick up.

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Loomis is all in for next year! He will double down on DA's authority and trade or cut some conscientious objectors who grumble too loudly. That attitude might initially get the locker room in line, but when the losses rack up again next year we can watch a full blown revolution in the locker room.

Dennis Allen may have saved his job for now, but my guess is that he gets cut midseason after another crappy showing as head coach.

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I agree. Loomis is like a big bad boss with a ton of command and authority who owes all his employees money with liens on his house as collateral. He can talk big all day but the fact is that he can't cut or trade anyone without an expiring contract and even not extending MT or Winston will probably cost him money that he was probably planning on for the salary cap. The core of the oline that defied his precision gf DA and pushed Williams into the endzone will be back that his year and Loomis cannot do anything about it unless he violates the salary cap which would cause the NFL to terminate Adebo and Olave's contracts to bring us into compliance since they are the ones without dead cap attached to cutting.

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No matter what happens or doesn’t happen, we are in for some pain.

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God please let this happen. We get two 3rd round picks. Division Rival gets a younger Bernie Madoff.

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I've heard great things about Khai. What have you heard?

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I heard he was the genius behind all the salary cap flexibility.

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Maybe we need to keep the guy and let Loomie go?

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Not me! As bad as Benson and Loomis are I don't want the Saints best players to leave and make the team exponentially worse. That's the very definition of cutting off one's nose to spite their face.

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I think Latt will be in a different uniform this season.

It’s crazy though right? Get rid of playmakers but keep a TERRIBLE head coach.

Allen has turned this franchise into a losing culture in less than 2 seasons.

Boy it’s gonna be ROUGH watching this team without leaders on Sundays.

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Amy Trask straight up takes the witness stand against Dennis Allen! Can this woman be our new GM?!

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Remember the 1973 season? John North made his debut as head coach of the Saints.

It did not go well.

The Falcons demolished the Saints 62-7 as Atlanta head coach Norm Van Brocklin gleefully enjoyed running up the score on a day when Atlanta intercepted Archie Manning five times.

Leading 45-7, Atlanta had Nick Mike-Mayer kick a 45-yard field goal in the fourth quarter. Then, reserve quarterback Bob Lee threw an 8-yard touchdown pass to LSU’s Eddie Ray to make it 55-7 before a 1-yard rushing touchdown by Ray accounted for the final score. The Falcons kept trying to score. There were no apologies.

North, a class act, handled the beating and clear running up of the score with class and dignity and moved on. At one point, the Saints won four of five games after starting 0-3 and finished 5-9, losing the season finale in narrow fashion, 14-10 at Atlanta in the rematch.

When did the NFL become so soft? The game is 60 minutes and you play till the final gun. Well at one time they did. No one would have said a word if Sean Payton were coach. He probably would have gone for 2 after!!

Dennis Allen should have been fired like Arthur Smith was!! How does it feel Failclowns?

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I heard he is the brains behind our salary cap pyramid scheme. Mickey Loomis drinks, Khai borrows.

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This says it all, doesn't it?

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This clip with Amy Trask is pure crap. We can pretty much assume there are likely some issues with DA's leadership style, but if someone in a position like Amy Trask is going to make accusations about someone they better have specific examples.