New Orleans Saints part ways with three assistant coaches

TheOak · 01-16-2024, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Its a good move only if we hire someone better.

Its a step in the right direction at least. OC was a major problem all season long.

The ability to hire someone better is where the gray is for me. Who do we have that is capable of that task?

Gayle and Loomis identified Jeff Ireland, Dennis Lauscha, Khai Harley, and Michael Parenton as those who selected Dennis Allen. Should we expect the same quality of a decision for these three spots as they have for HC? Who is left that has the knowledge and understanding to identify the building blocks of our future offense?

According to Loomis, Dennis was selected because of his “leadership skills, teaching skills, and football acumen”. None of which has been on display the last two seasons.

SmashMouth · 01-16-2024, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

The ability to hire someone better is where the gray is for me. Who do we have that is capable of that task?

Gayle and Loomis identified Jeff Ireland, Dennis Lauscha, Khai Harley, and Michael Parenton as those who selected Dennis Allen. Should we expect the same quality of a decision for these three spots as they have for HC? Who is left that has the knowledge and understanding to identify the building blocks of our future offense?

According to Loomis, Dennis was selected because of his “leadership skills, teaching skills, and football acumen”. None of which has been on display the last two seasons.

Does Loomie get a piece of the Saints upon Gayle's passing? This rumor may point to his recent decision making.

TheOak · 01-16-2024, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Does Loomie get a piece of the Saints upon Gayle's passing? This rumor may point to his recent decision making.

There is not a lot about this out there and it seems the last bit came out in 2021. Gayle’s succession names Dennis Lauscha as executor with Loomis and Bensel as alternates should Lauscha not be around.

If I ventured off into conspiracy theory land, Loomis has enough good standing with both the city and league to garner the favor and financial backing to make a run for the team. His net worth is +/- 80MM with 23 years with the Saints and 16 years with the Seahawks (nearly 40 years as an executive in the NFL). A lower valuation for the franchise works in his favor since his net assets are not what most team owners is.

Rugby Saint II · 01-16-2024, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

The ability to hire someone better is where the gray is for me. Who do we have that is capable of that task?

Gayle and Loomis identified Jeff Ireland, Dennis Lauscha, Khai Harley, and Michael Parenton as those who selected Dennis Allen. Should we expect the same quality of a decision for these three spots as they have for HC? Who is left that has the knowledge and understanding to identify the building blocks of our future offense?

According to Loomis, Dennis was selected because of his “leadership skills, teaching skills, and football acumen”. None of which has been on display the last two seasons.

When Payton left, apparently he took the leadership role with him. At this point I believe that the front office could use some new blood there too to help bring in a fresh perspective.....especially in the draft room!

SmashMouth · 01-16-2024, 02:46 PM

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rezburna · 01-16-2024, 02:48 PM

Mike McCarthy and Jon Gruden would bring in SB experience with similar West Coast schemes. That’s not what I want, but I understand if the organization would want that based on their track record.

I wouldn’t even want Eric Bienemy at this point as an OC. He deserves to at least get a shot at a HC gig and I’d hate to see him over making yet another lateral move.

I like Klint Kubiak. I like the idea of Ronald Curry getting a chance. Whatever we do, I just hope it’s the right move.

neugey · 01-16-2024, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Mike McCarthy and Jon Gruden would bring in SB experience with similar West Coast schemes. That’s not what I want, but I understand if the organization would want that based on their track record.

Maybe I'm operating on emotion a little bit here, but the aspect of hiring McCarthy or Gruden is the message bringing in a former Super Bowl winner sends to DA ... get your SHIp together because now we've got an over-qualified OC/interim hot and ready to take your seat. I very much like that.

Rugby Saint II · 01-16-2024, 03:21 PM

How in the hell does Doug Marrone still have a job in New Orleans? Black Monday was yesterday! Some progress was made in pass protection along the O line as the year went on but the run game never got any better after a truly abysmal start to the season. Nick Saban fired him after one year and yet he's still here coaching a unit at the bottom of the NFL after two years. I just don't get it!

Danno · 01-17-2024, 11:49 AM

Per Underhill...
The Saints are interviewing Bengals QB coach Dan Pitcher for the offensive coordinator job, per source

SmashMouth · 01-17-2024, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Per Underhill...
The Saints are interviewing Bengals QB coach Dan Pitcher for the offensive coordinator job, per source

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01-16-2024, 03:31 PM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: New Orleans Saints part ways with three assistant coaches Originally Posted by Danno Its a good move only if we hire someone better. Its a step in the right direction at least. OC was a major problem all season long. The ability to hire someone better is where the gray is for me. Who do we have that is capable of that task? Gayle and Loomis identified Jeff Ireland, Dennis Lauscha, Khai Harley, and Michael Parenton as those who selected Dennis Allen. Should we expect the same quality of a decision for these three spots as they have for HC? Who is left that has the knowledge and understanding to identify the building blocks of our future offense? According to Loomis, Dennis was selected because of his “leadership skills, teaching skills, and football acumen”. None of which has been on display the last two seasons. Rugby Saint II, dizzle88 and K Major like this.
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01-16-2024, 03:34 PM	#2
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,477 Blog Entries: 29	Re: New Orleans Saints part ways with three assistant coaches Originally Posted by TheOak The ability to hire someone better is where the gray is for me. Who do we have that is capable of that task? Gayle and Loomis identified Jeff Ireland, Dennis Lauscha, Khai Harley, and Michael Parenton as those who selected Dennis Allen. Should we expect the same quality of a decision for these three spots as they have for HC? Who is left that has the knowledge and understanding to identify the building blocks of our future offense? According to Loomis, Dennis was selected because of his “leadership skills, teaching skills, and football acumen”. None of which has been on display the last two seasons. Does Loomie get a piece of the Saints upon Gayle's passing? This rumor may point to his recent decision making.

01-16-2024, 06:53 PM	#3
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: New Orleans Saints part ways with three assistant coaches Originally Posted by SmashMouth Does Loomie get a piece of the Saints upon Gayle's passing? This rumor may point to his recent decision making. There is not a lot about this out there and it seems the last bit came out in 2021. Gayle’s succession names Dennis Lauscha as executor with Loomis and Bensel as alternates should Lauscha not be around. If I ventured off into conspiracy theory land, Loomis has enough good standing with both the city and league to garner the favor and financial backing to make a run for the team. His net worth is +/- 80MM with 23 years with the Saints and 16 years with the Seahawks (nearly 40 years as an executive in the NFL). A lower valuation for the franchise works in his favor since his net assets are not what most team owners is. Halo, SmashMouth and K Major like this.
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01-16-2024, 03:37 PM	#4
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,117	Re: New Orleans Saints part ways with three assistant coaches Originally Posted by TheOak The ability to hire someone better is where the gray is for me. Who do we have that is capable of that task? Gayle and Loomis identified Jeff Ireland, Dennis Lauscha, Khai Harley, and Michael Parenton as those who selected Dennis Allen. Should we expect the same quality of a decision for these three spots as they have for HC? Who is left that has the knowledge and understanding to identify the building blocks of our future offense? According to Loomis, Dennis was selected because of his “leadership skills, teaching skills, and football acumen”. None of which has been on display the last two seasons. When Payton left, apparently he took the leadership role with him. At this point I believe that the front office could use some new blood there too to help bring in a fresh perspective.....especially in the draft room!

01-16-2024, 02:46 PM	#5
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,477 Blog Entries: 29	Re: New Orleans Saints part ways with three assistant coaches Twitter papz likes this.

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rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,999	Re: New Orleans Saints part ways with three assistant coaches Mike McCarthy and Jon Gruden would bring in SB experience with similar West Coast schemes. That’s not what I want, but I understand if the organization would want that based on their track record. I wouldn’t even want Eric Bienemy at this point as an OC. He deserves to at least get a shot at a HC gig and I’d hate to see him over making yet another lateral move. I like Klint Kubiak. I like the idea of Ronald Curry getting a chance. Whatever we do, I just hope it’s the right move. bobdog86 likes this.

01-16-2024, 03:02 PM	#7
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,819 Blog Entries: 13	Re: New Orleans Saints part ways with three assistant coaches Originally Posted by rezburna Mike McCarthy and Jon Gruden would bring in SB experience with similar West Coast schemes. That’s not what I want, but I understand if the organization would want that based on their track record. Maybe I'm operating on emotion a little bit here, but the aspect of hiring McCarthy or Gruden is the message bringing in a former Super Bowl winner sends to DA ... get your SHIp together because now we've got an over-qualified OC/interim hot and ready to take your seat. I very much like that. iceshack149 and Rugby Saint II like this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,117	Re: New Orleans Saints part ways with three assistant coaches How in the hell does Doug Marrone still have a job in New Orleans? Black Monday was yesterday! Some progress was made in pass protection along the O line as the year went on but the run game never got any better after a truly abysmal start to the season. Nick Saban fired him after one year and yet he's still here coaching a unit at the bottom of the NFL after two years. I just don't get it! neugey, SmashMouth and dizzle88 like this.

01-17-2024, 11:49 AM	#9
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01-17-2024, 11:50 AM	#10
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,477 Blog Entries: 29	Re: New Orleans Saints part ways with three assistant coaches Originally Posted by Danno Per Underhill... The Saints are interviewing Bengals QB coach Dan Pitcher for the offensive coordinator job, per source Twitter Danno and K Major like this.