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AsylumGuido 01-19-2024 04:14 PM

Re: Would you want Belichick?
 
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Originally Posted by SmashMouth (Post 991503)
Why would a second interview even be needed for the GOAT? What could the FailClowns possibly be asking or discussing ?

The Failclowns aren't interviewing Belichick. He's interviewing them. Much like Payton did.

iceshack149 01-19-2024 08:48 PM

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New Report: Atlanta Falcons Hiring Former Patriots Coach Bill Belichick

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According to a new report by NFL on CBS insider Josina Anderson, New England Patriots' legend Bill Belichick will be the next head coach of the Atlanta Falcons.
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Though highly coveted on the NFL market and with seven teams having coaching openings, the 71-year-old Belichick has only interviewed with the Falcons. According to Anderson, the deal is "expected, barring a snag in negotiations."
Whatever. Funny that the Coach of the team that embarrassed the Falcons in the Superbowl is likely going to be their new head coach.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...9bb1e769&ei=45

AsylumGuido 01-20-2024 10:52 AM

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What a way to finish a stellar career, if it does indeed happen. It'll be like taking the last few laps around the bowl before retiring to the sewer.

:flush:

SmashMouth 01-20-2024 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 991566)
What a way to finish a stellar career, if it does indeed happen. It'll be like taking the last few laps around the bowl before retiring to the sewer.

:flush:

Will he be drafting what is now a dwindling crop of Bama players, I wonder... :popcorn:

Rugby Saint II 01-20-2024 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by K Major (Post 991501)
Looks like Atlanta is meeting with Bill for a second interview this weekend.

Let's just hope they don't land a good QB (pick #8) in the upcoming draft.

Forget the Falcon "hate" ... they are a decent/good QB away from becoming a legit threat in the NFC South.

The man is still a mastermind on special teams and defense.

One thing about Belichick is that he runs a tight ship like Sean Payton did when he was here. I am focused on the fact that his initial meeting was only with Arthur Blank because I believe he wants total autonomy in Atlanta. If he gets a good QB in the draft with the eighth pick then he could easily control the NFC South for the near future.

I changed my mind about wanting the hoodie in New Orleans. I believe that it's better to have Belichick fix things here than for a division rival.

AsylumGuido 01-20-2024 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 991577)
One thing about Belichick is that he runs a tight ship like Sean Payton did when he was here. I am focused on the fact that his initial meeting was only with Arthur Blank because I believe he wants total autonomy in Atlanta. If he gets a good QB in the draft with the eighth pick then he could easily control the NFC South for the near future.

I changed my mind about wanting the hoodie in New Orleans. I believe that it's better to have Belichick fix things here than for a division rival.

He wasn't able to fix anything in New England after Tom Brady left. Why should it be any different in Atlanta?

BakoSaint 01-20-2024 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 991586)
He wasn't able to fix anything in New England after Tom Brady left. Why should it be any different in Atlanta?

I don't think Belichick will be great again, but I don't think failing to replace Tom Brady is really a valid criticism. I would be much more worried about his age, the historic trend of coaches who won a Super Bowl never having the youth or drive or desperation to win again with another team, and Belichick's horrible track record drafting receivers, and more recently acquiring no great receivers by any means. Finding a great QB in this league is harder than making a 3 point shot in the NBA, and you typically only get a shot every few years, because if you find an ok QB or you coach the rest of the team well, you don't quickly get another high pick, while if you go the free agency route and miss it takes years for your salary cap to recover.

Basically Belichick had 1 shot with Mac Jones and missed, which is like Stephon Curry missing one 3-pointer, and suddenly being declared unable to hit 3's. And Mac Jones was not a high 1st round pick, he was a mid round guy like Kenny Pickett, Justin Fields, or Dwayne Haskins. In this league I think you have to take shots at QB and be prepared to miss and take the next shot, and its not an exact science. Having a DC play OC in Jones 2nd year was probably a mistake, but also probably Jones is Pickett and it does not matter.

What I would worry about with Belichick is cronyism in recent assistant coaching hires that have not been effective, lack of ability to develop receivers, and getting too old to adopt new schemes. One data point is not enough to say he couldn't hit on a QB if he gets another chance with a higher pick or he is in a position to recruit a top free agent QB with an offense that actually has weapons to attract one and salary cap to make a top offer. I don't think New England was an attractive destination when Brady left with somewhat of a salary cap mess, the shadow of Tom Brady looming over whoever replaced him, and a garbage pail receiving corps. But perhaps in Atlanta Belichick can draft Jayden Daniels or lure Kirk Cousins in free agency.

AsylumGuido 01-20-2024 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 991589)
I don't think Belichick will be great again, but I don't think failing to replace Tom Brady is really a valid criticism. I would be much more worried about his age, the historic trend of coaches who won a Super Bowl never having the youth or drive or desperation to win again with another team, and Belichick's horrible track record drafting receivers, and more recently acquiring no great receivers by any means. Finding a great QB in this league is harder than making a 3 point shot in the NBA, and you typically only get a shot every few years, because if you find an ok QB or you coach the rest of the team well, you don't quickly get another high pick, while if you go the free agency route and miss it takes years for your salary cap to recover.

Basically Belichick had 1 shot with Mac Jones and missed, which is like Stephon Curry missing one 3-pointer, and suddenly being declared unable to hit 3's. And Mac Jones was not a high 1st round pick, he was a mid round guy like Kenny Pickett, Justin Fields, or Dwayne Haskins. In this league I think you have to take shots at QB and be prepared to miss and take the next shot, and its not an exact science. Having a DC play OC in Jones 2nd year was probably a mistake, but also probably Jones is Pickett and it does not matter.

What I would worry about with Belichick is cronyism in recent assistant coaching hires that have not been effective, lack of ability to develop receivers, and getting too old to adopt new schemes. One data point is not enough to say he couldn't hit on a QB if he gets another chance with a higher pick or he is in a position to recruit a top free agent QB with an offense that actually has weapons to attract one and salary cap to make a top offer. I don't think New England was an attractive destination when Brady left with somewhat of a salary cap mess, the shadow of Tom Brady looming over whoever replaced him, and a garbage pail receiving corps. But perhaps in Atlanta Belichick can draft Jayden Daniels or lure Kirk Cousins in free agency.

Boy, did you totally miss the mark. LOL! I wasn't implying that his failure would have anything to do with "replacing a QB" or failing to do the same. You can't replace a Tom Brady. D'uh! Basically it was all of those other overly obvious reasons that you listed. Belichick couldn't win without Brady both before and after. The cesspool that is the Failclowns will remain the Failclowns whether Belichick chooses to end his floundering career there or somewhere else.

BakoSaint 01-20-2024 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 991595)
Boy, did you totally miss the mark. LOL! I wasn't implying that his failure would have anything to do with "replacing a QB" or failing to do the same. You can't replace a Tom Brady. D'uh! Basically it was all of those other overly obvious reasons that you listed. Belichick couldn't win without Brady both before and after. The cesspool that is the Failclowns will remain the Failclowns whether Belichick chooses to end his floundering career there or somewhere else.

I think there is a narrow scenario where if the Belichick does something with the Falcons like bring in a quality oc, sign cousins, cousins stays healthy, draft nabers or another elite contributor, etc that they could compete. Belichick is not a good long term coach, he has not developed a young QB in over 20 years, he is old, he has many flaws, but he ain’t a joke. Next to Dennis Allen he is the straight man. He won 11 games with Matt Cassell. I doubt Da would win 11 games with Tom Brady. Without Bill’s defenses Brady has 1-2 rings like most other elite QBs like Brees, Manning, and Favre, 3 at most. Brady got a ring when they broke up because Arians is a better HC than Mac Jones is a QB.

Sinner 01-20-2024 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BakoSaint (Post 991596)
I think there is a narrow scenario where if the Belichick does something with the Falcons like bring in a quality oc, sign cousins, cousins stays healthy, draft nabers or another elite contributor, etc that they could compete. Belichick is not a good long term coach, he has not developed a young QB in over 20 years, he is old, he has many flaws, but he ain’t a joke. Next to Dennis Allen he is the straight man. He won 11 games with Matt Cassell. I doubt Da would win 11 games with Tom Brady. Without Bill’s defenses Brady has 1-2 rings like most other elite QBs like Brees, Manning, and Favre, 3 at most. Brady got a ring when they broke up because Arians is a better HC than Mac Jones is a QB.

^ You hit the mark.


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