Would you want Belichick?
 

PRETEND that Saints mgmt dumped DA for yet another yawner underachieving season and Bill was interested in NOLA.


Would you want him as Head Coach?

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Why not ?

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In a heartbeat.

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Kind of. I could go for Belichick the coach and a new GM from the outside that he can work well with.

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I would actually rather they go for a younger coach. Belichick may not coach for much longer.

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Would I rather have Belichick than DA? Yes.

Would I rather have Belichick than a trained monkey suffering from an acute gastrointestinal illness? Slightly closer call, but yes still.

Would Bill Belichick be my top candidate as new HC? No. Its not that Brady made him, but rather that both he and Brady got too old and lost a step, and he happened to do so a few years earlier than Brady. He was great but at this point he is set in his ways with giving jobs to his old buddies and sticking with the system he always knew, because at his age he is too tired to burn the midnight oil coming up with a new system and risking his job to young upstarts who could outpace him innovating with a new system.

No coach has ever won a Super Bowl with one team and went on to win again with another. Coaches who came up just short in their first long gig like Andy Reid and Dick Vermeil tend to be more hungry the second time around, so if we went with an older coach I would prefer Harbaugh or even Saban to Belichick, McCarthy, or Payton.

Could Belichick win in Atlanta? I don't think so. They are not close to championship level, it would be a late career gig to get a few wins and try to even make the playoffs. I don't think Belichick has the energy to make something new. Also Atlanta has a dumb front office that can't evaluate the QB position and wasted all their draft capital on the worst positions to take in the 1st round: RB and TE.

Could Belichick win it all in Dallas or Philadelphia? Perhaps. They are ready to compete now and just need a new coach who knows how to playoff. It hasn't been done before, but if you look at Brady he went to a team with a lot of stars that just needed a QB and some free agents he could attract, taking a short cut and ditching New Englands bad salary cap and lack of talent. Its possible that a similar short cut could get Belichick another ring. Its just unlikely because its never been done.

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Not unless Brady is with him. I think we all know who was running that championship train.

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No, he isn't in it for the long term at his age.
Young coach and assistants who will plan to play as the game is now

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I'd be fine if we did, cuz we'd know what we were getting (hopefully not Ditka 2.0) But I would honestly prefer someone new, younger. A lot of great young minds out there.

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He's a cheater and I don't want him. He's good coach but I don't like the man because I don't trust him. It's really that simple. What has he done without Brady anyway?

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Apparently not as good as what Dennis Allen has done without Drew Brees. Go figure.

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What I’m going to go figure is we’ll have Dennis Allen doing about the same without Drew Brees next season, as he’s done for the last two seasons.
Go figure.

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Its not that what Belichick has done without Brady is better than what Allen has done without Brees, its that what Belichick did with Brady was better than what Payton did with Brees, and we know that Payton is better than Allen.

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Looks like Atlanta is meeting with Bill for a second interview this weekend.

Let's just hope they don't land a good QB (pick #8) in the upcoming draft.

Forget the Falcon "hate" ... they are a decent/good QB away from becoming a legit threat in the NFC South.

The man is still a mastermind on special teams and defense.

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Why would a second interview even be needed for the GOAT? What could the FailClowns possibly be asking or discussing ?

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Probably to meet with the entire Falcons front office this time around ...

I'm just glad it's not Harbaugh.

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Kinda need to point out that Belichek’s Pats teams played in an historically bad division, almost never having a road playoff game due in part to this inequality. 6 guaranteed wins has nothing to do with coaching. I doubt he’ll reach the same heights, even with a clowns team in the nfc south, which, by the way, is not as poor as it superficially seems.

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Maybe his record without Brady and this goes to Loomis using Belichick as a comparison to Dennis Allen.

Without Tom Brady: Above .500 one season in the last 4.
7-9. 2020
10-7 2021
8-9. 2022
4-13 2023

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Money. $28,300,000 for two years! :band:
That's pretty lame but I'm still posting it.

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And I believe that most would argue that Brady is better than Brees.

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The Failclowns aren't interviewing Belichick. He's interviewing them. Much like Payton did.

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New Report: Atlanta Falcons Hiring Former Patriots Coach Bill Belichick

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According to a new report by NFL on CBS insider Josina Anderson, New England Patriots' legend Bill Belichick will be the next head coach of the Atlanta Falcons.

Whatever. Funny that the Coach of the team that embarrassed the Falcons in the Superbowl is likely going to be their new head coach.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...9bb1e769&ei=45

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What a way to finish a stellar career, if it does indeed happen. It'll be like taking the last few laps around the bowl before retiring to the sewer.

:flush:

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Will he be drafting what is now a dwindling crop of Bama players, I wonder... :popcorn:

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One thing about Belichick is that he runs a tight ship like Sean Payton did when he was here. I am focused on the fact that his initial meeting was only with Arthur Blank because I believe he wants total autonomy in Atlanta. If he gets a good QB in the draft with the eighth pick then he could easily control the NFC South for the near future.

I changed my mind about wanting the hoodie in New Orleans. I believe that it's better to have Belichick fix things here than for a division rival.

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He wasn't able to fix anything in New England after Tom Brady left. Why should it be any different in Atlanta?

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I don't think Belichick will be great again, but I don't think failing to replace Tom Brady is really a valid criticism. I would be much more worried about his age, the historic trend of coaches who won a Super Bowl never having the youth or drive or desperation to win again with another team, and Belichick's horrible track record drafting receivers, and more recently acquiring no great receivers by any means. Finding a great QB in this league is harder than making a 3 point shot in the NBA, and you typically only get a shot every few years, because if you find an ok QB or you coach the rest of the team well, you don't quickly get another high pick, while if you go the free agency route and miss it takes years for your salary cap to recover.

Basically Belichick had 1 shot with Mac Jones and missed, which is like Stephon Curry missing one 3-pointer, and suddenly being declared unable to hit 3's. And Mac Jones was not a high 1st round pick, he was a mid round guy like Kenny Pickett, Justin Fields, or Dwayne Haskins. In this league I think you have to take shots at QB and be prepared to miss and take the next shot, and its not an exact science. Having a DC play OC in Jones 2nd year was probably a mistake, but also probably Jones is Pickett and it does not matter.

What I would worry about with Belichick is cronyism in recent assistant coaching hires that have not been effective, lack of ability to develop receivers, and getting too old to adopt new schemes. One data point is not enough to say he couldn't hit on a QB if he gets another chance with a higher pick or he is in a position to recruit a top free agent QB with an offense that actually has weapons to attract one and salary cap to make a top offer. I don't think New England was an attractive destination when Brady left with somewhat of a salary cap mess, the shadow of Tom Brady looming over whoever replaced him, and a garbage pail receiving corps. But perhaps in Atlanta Belichick can draft Jayden Daniels or lure Kirk Cousins in free agency.

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Boy, did you totally miss the mark. LOL! I wasn't implying that his failure would have anything to do with "replacing a QB" or failing to do the same. You can't replace a Tom Brady. D'uh! Basically it was all of those other overly obvious reasons that you listed. Belichick couldn't win without Brady both before and after. The cesspool that is the Failclowns will remain the Failclowns whether Belichick chooses to end his floundering career there or somewhere else.

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I think there is a narrow scenario where if the Belichick does something with the Falcons like bring in a quality oc, sign cousins, cousins stays healthy, draft nabers or another elite contributor, etc that they could compete. Belichick is not a good long term coach, he has not developed a young QB in over 20 years, he is old, he has many flaws, but he ain’t a joke. Next to Dennis Allen he is the straight man. He won 11 games with Matt Cassell. I doubt Da would win 11 games with Tom Brady. Without Bill’s defenses Brady has 1-2 rings like most other elite QBs like Brees, Manning, and Favre, 3 at most. Brady got a ring when they broke up because Arians is a better HC than Mac Jones is a QB.

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^ You hit the mark.

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Didn't realize Jim was still interviewing for the Falcons job :confused:.
Harbaugh with a legit QB would be awful for the Saints.


Source: Atlanta Falcons book 2nd interview with Jim Harbaugh

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He was unable to replace Brady in much the same way Payton was unable to replace Brees. Bill made the effort and tried to prepare but chose poorly and it cost him his job. Payton never really attempted to try other than the half hearted effort of running JW out there. Sean bailed before it got bad. I don t want DA but I sure don’t want Bill either. If things continue to go south next year we need to go back to the young energetic OC like we did in 2006. There are plenty out there and maybe this OC search is just that. Question is, is DA in charge of this hire or is Mickey? If it’s DA then maybe this is a one season hire, if it’s Loomis then maybe our next head coach is being hired right under DA’s nose. Reality is so much more interesting than fiction.

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It looks like Arthur Smith wants a proven coach leading the Falcons and turning the corner with an experienced proven head coach. Between Belichick, Harbaugh, Raheem Morris, and former Saints coach Joe Brady they have an excellent group of candidates to choose from. Atlanta could be a strong division rival now and that's not something Saints fans are used to seeing.

Incidentally, 28-3 could be their winning record for a couple of seasons if they get their act together and we keep doing what we're doing.

It would suck to see Atlanta take control of the NFC South and to see us having to be in their shadow fighting for a playoff spot like when we controlled the south and they were always chasing us when Payton was here.

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What’s even more pathetic is a name on your list. Raheem Morris …

He has 3 less WINS & 8 FEWER losses than the substitute teacher down in NOLA.

It’s completely wild for Loomis to continue believing he has the “right head coach” :rolleyes:.

And I think you meant Arthur Blank :bng:

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Gimmie Grudwn as OC and we at in the playoffs. Minimum 12 wins

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If the Saints employ Gruden there's no way they make the playoffs. Goodell will be on the phones to the officials, its be a flag throwing party every game

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/9zf2...29032613.0.jpg

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Better pray Atlanta doesn't hire Harbaugh.

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:rofl:

Wut?

They hired another failed retread.

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What's even scarier is that Raheem Morris has a HIGHER win percentage (.356) as HC vs Dennis Allen :rolleyes:.

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He's better than Dennis Allen. The only reason I say no is I don't know how many years he has left to coach. If I knew he had 10 more years of coherent coaching, I'd say definitely. The guy is already 71. I'd replace Allen with him in a heartbeat though.