You've Gotta Have Faith

mjf150 · 10-11-2005, 09:22 AM

With the Saint's dead-set on using Aaron Brooks or Todd Bouman at QB, the Deuce injury, and being without a "true" home, we still have a very good shot at winning..... the number one overall pick, that is. But we'll probably screw that up too by going 7-9, 6-10, or 5-11.

saintswhodi · 10-11-2005, 09:37 AM

That's where my "Faith" is right now. Matt Leinart, and the first pick in the second round for Rod Wright or a stud LB. I have "Faith" that with Deuce being hurt, people will forget Haz and this team sucked before he got hurt, since he will be out for more games than he played. But this seems like a cruel twist of fate. Yeah we lost Deuce, but maybe we actually will gain a QB for the long haul in the long run.

TheGambler · 10-11-2005, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by mjf150

With the Saint's dead-set on using Aaron Brooks or Todd Bouman at QB, the Deuce injury, and being without a "true" home, we still have a very good shot at winning..... the number one overall pick, that is. But we'll probably screw that up too by going 7-9, 6-10, or 5-11.

Try 8-8 and a wildcard berth.

If you thought the NFC was bad last year...

mjf150 · 10-11-2005, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by TheGambler

Originally Posted by mjf150

With the Saint's dead-set on using Aaron Brooks or Todd Bouman at QB, the Deuce injury, and being without a "true" home, we still have a very good shot at winning..... the number one overall pick, that is. But we'll probably screw that up too by going 7-9, 6-10, or 5-11.

Try 8-8 and a wildcard berth.

If you thought the NFC was bad last year...

Name the 6 remaining games that you think they will win without Deuce or a reliable, consistent QB?

TheGambler · 10-11-2005, 11:42 AM

Atlanta (once)

Tampa (once)

Chicago

Miami or St. Louis

NY Jets

Detroit

TheGambler · 10-11-2005, 11:43 AM

Don't forget the jeckyll/hyde nature of the Saints, and their ability to beat at least 1 or 2 good teams (New England ?)

mjf150 · 10-11-2005, 11:49 AM

In a normal year (i.e. the last 3 or 4) I would agree with you, but don't forget that they no longer have their offensive center peice, and without him, Brooks' flaws will be further exploited. That's the Saints - not good enough to reach the playoffs, but not bad enough to recieve a top five draft choice. Honestly, at this point our best hope is to get A-Mac some real-time reps in order to see what potential we have on hand. And I'll add that while the Saints do regularly win games that they have no business winning, they lose a hell of alot of games they are supposed to win (i.e. Minnesota, Green Bay). So, I wouldn't count your chickens before they hatch (Atlanta, Chicago, Detroit, etc.).

SaintStoneyMount · 10-11-2005, 11:50 AM

You do better trying to predict the weather for all 50 states than predict what the Saints will do for the rest of the year. These guys aint jekly and hyde they Sybil....We are still uncovering personalities. All that being said. The team probably won't give us a top 5 draft pick.

TheGambler · 10-11-2005, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by mjf150

but don't forget that they no longer have their offensive center peice,

As much as I like Deuce......for whatever reason, he hasn't been setting the world on fire in the first few games. I have complete confidence that if he played this whole season, he'd eventually get his act together...........but in the meantime, I honestly don't see a major droppoff between him and Antowain Smith. Factor in Stecker and Chatman, and I think we can still make plays in the running game.

TheGambler · 10-11-2005, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by mjf150

So, I wouldn't count your chickens before they hatch (Atlanta, Chicago, Detroit, etc.).

We'll get Atlanta at least once. Count on it. I actually think it'll be this weekend.

10-11-2005, 09:22 AM	#1
mjf150 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 747	You've Gotta Have Faith With the Saint's dead-set on using Aaron Brooks or Todd Bouman at QB, the Deuce injury, and being without a "true" home, we still have a very good shot at winning..... the number one overall pick, that is. But we'll probably screw that up too by going 7-9, 6-10, or 5-11.
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10-11-2005, 10:47 AM	#3
TheGambler 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 610	Re: You've Gotta Have Faith Originally Posted by mjf150 With the Saint's dead-set on using Aaron Brooks or Todd Bouman at QB, the Deuce injury, and being without a "true" home, we still have a very good shot at winning..... the number one overall pick, that is. But we'll probably screw that up too by going 7-9, 6-10, or 5-11. Try 8-8 and a wildcard berth. If you thought the NFC was bad last year...
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10-11-2005, 11:24 AM	#4
mjf150 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 747	Re: You've Gotta Have Faith Originally Posted by TheGambler Originally Posted by mjf150 With the Saint's dead-set on using Aaron Brooks or Todd Bouman at QB, the Deuce injury, and being without a "true" home, we still have a very good shot at winning..... the number one overall pick, that is. But we'll probably screw that up too by going 7-9, 6-10, or 5-11. Try 8-8 and a wildcard berth. If you thought the NFC was bad last year... Name the 6 remaining games that you think they will win without Deuce or a reliable, consistent QB?
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TheGambler 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 610	Don't forget the jeckyll/hyde nature of the Saints, and their ability to beat at least 1 or 2 good teams (New England ?)
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saintswhodi 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX Posts: 6,941	That's where my "Faith" is right now. Matt Leinart, and the first pick in the second round for Rod Wright or a stud LB. I have "Faith" that with Deuce being hurt, people will forget Haz and this team sucked before he got hurt, since he will be out for more games than he played. But this seems like a cruel twist of fate. Yeah we lost Deuce, but maybe we actually will gain a QB for the long haul in the long run.

10-11-2005, 11:49 AM	#7
mjf150 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 747	In a normal year (i.e. the last 3 or 4) I would agree with you, but don't forget that they no longer have their offensive center peice, and without him, Brooks' flaws will be further exploited. That's the Saints - not good enough to reach the playoffs, but not bad enough to recieve a top five draft choice. Honestly, at this point our best hope is to get A-Mac some real-time reps in order to see what potential we have on hand. And I'll add that while the Saints do regularly win games that they have no business winning, they lose a hell of alot of games they are supposed to win (i.e. Minnesota, Green Bay). So, I wouldn't count your chickens before they hatch (Atlanta, Chicago, Detroit, etc.).
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SaintStoneyMount 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Stone Mountain, GA Posts: 448	You do better trying to predict the weather for all 50 states than predict what the Saints will do for the rest of the year. These guys aint jekly and hyde they Sybil....We are still uncovering personalities. All that being said. The team probably won't give us a top 5 draft pick.

10-11-2005, 12:03 PM	#9
TheGambler 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 610	Originally Posted by mjf150 but don't forget that they no longer have their offensive center peice, As much as I like Deuce......for whatever reason, he hasn't been setting the world on fire in the first few games. I have complete confidence that if he played this whole season, he'd eventually get his act together...........but in the meantime, I honestly don't see a major droppoff between him and Antowain Smith. Factor in Stecker and Chatman, and I think we can still make plays in the running game.
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10-11-2005, 12:04 PM	#10
TheGambler 500th Post Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 610	Originally Posted by mjf150 So, I wouldn't count your chickens before they hatch (Atlanta, Chicago, Detroit, etc.). We'll get Atlanta at least once. Count on it. I actually think it'll be this weekend.
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