Draft Question

keithday123 · 01-30-2024, 11:57 PM

So what happens with the Saints sitting at 14 if one of these mid level quarterbacks like Nix or Pennix is there? Do the Saints draft one if they really like them, draft another position of need, or look for a trade partner who may really want one of these guys? Haven’t really heard this question answered so was just wondering on everyone’s opinion.

lee909 · 01-31-2024, 01:09 AM

Originally Posted by keithday123

So what happens with the Saints sitting at 14 if one of these mid level quarterbacks like Nix or Pennix is there? Do the Saints draft one if they really like them, draft another position of need, or look for a trade partner who may really want one of these guys? Haven’t really heard this question answered so was just wondering on everyone’s opinion.

They are in no position to waste a pick on a player that will sit for a few years imo. Once they end up restructuring Carrs contract to get under the cap you can guarantee he will have 2/3 years before they can move him on most likely

MatthewT · 01-31-2024, 08:40 AM

If a QB the Saints love happens to fall to them at 14, they would absolutely pull the trigger and draft him. I can even see them moving up a little if necessary. Yes, the Saints are committed to Carr, but a commitment to any player doesn't mean you sit back and never try to improve. What I can just about guarantee is they won't draft a QB in round 1 that needs a lot of work to be NFL ready, it would have to be someone by their 2nd year should be able to win the starting job.

AsylumGuido · 01-31-2024, 08:47 AM

I seriously doubt the Saints would take a QB at 14. They made a longer term commitment to Carr when they picked him up. They appear to remain in a win now mode and have publicly stated their needs on both lines. Moving down simply is not in their (Loomis') DNA, as well. However, I wouldn't be surprised at all if they moved up in the mid-rounds to pick up competition with Haener as a developmental/backup piece.

SmashMouth · 01-31-2024, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by keithday123

So what happens with the Saints sitting at 14 if one of these mid level quarterbacks like Nix or Pennix is there? Do the Saints draft one if they really like them, draft another position of need, or look for a trade partner who may really want one of these guys? Haven’t really heard this question answered so was just wondering on everyone’s opinion.

We have this already... why waste a pick on another one.

Draft the meanest badest OL and DL you can buy, and then some.

K Major · 01-31-2024, 09:22 AM

The Saints aren’t drafting a QB.

Doesn’t matter who the player is, the Saints aren’t drafting a QB.

AsylumGuido · 01-31-2024, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

We have this already... why waste a pick on another one.

Draft the meanest badest OL and DL you can buy, and then some.

I really hope we try to address the lines mainly in free agency so they can contribute immediately. There's supposed to be a slew of them on the market. For the most part anyone you pick up in the draft is going to require a good deal of work before they can contribute. Not to say we shouldn't also target some big uglies via the draft, but understanding they likely won't be starting any time soon.

SmashMouth · 01-31-2024, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I really hope we try to address the lines mainly in free agency so they can contribute immediately. There's supposed to be a slew of them on the market. For the most part anyone you pick up in the draft is going to require a good deal of work before they can contribute. Not to say we shouldn't also target some big uglies via the draft, but understanding they likely won't be starting any time soon.

This means more cap deficits... At some point the credit limit will be reached, even with our cap navigation wizardry.

AsylumGuido · 01-31-2024, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

This means more cap deficits... At some point the credit limit will be reached, even with our cap navigation wizardry.

What good is the cap if you don't spend it?

It's guaranteed to keep climbing through the end of this latest contract round which is basically a decade from now. Then they'll have another round of new huge deals.

neugey · 01-31-2024, 10:17 AM

BPA with our first two selections and adjust as needed. If Bowers falls to #14 and we think he's gonna be a star then grab him and worry about trading Taysom and/or Juwan Johnson post-draft.

If a Penix or McCarthy happens to fall to our 2nd round pick might be worth a good look.

Drafting for need in the first 2 rounds is a lesser approach IMO. Just don't trade up or I will go nuts!

01-30-2024, 11:57 PM	#1
keithday123 Texasaint Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 183	Draft Question So what happens with the Saints sitting at 14 if one of these mid level quarterbacks like Nix or Pennix is there? Do the Saints draft one if they really like them, draft another position of need, or look for a trade partner who may really want one of these guys? Haven’t really heard this question answered so was just wondering on everyone’s opinion.
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01-31-2024, 01:09 AM	#2
lee909 Site Donor 2015 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,803 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Draft Question Originally Posted by keithday123 So what happens with the Saints sitting at 14 if one of these mid level quarterbacks like Nix or Pennix is there? Do the Saints draft one if they really like them, draft another position of need, or look for a trade partner who may really want one of these guys? Haven’t really heard this question answered so was just wondering on everyone’s opinion. They are in no position to waste a pick on a player that will sit for a few years imo. Once they end up restructuring Carrs contract to get under the cap you can guarantee he will have 2/3 years before they can move him on most likely Danno likes this.

01-31-2024, 08:40 AM	#3
MatthewT 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Mississippi Posts: 2,729	Re: Draft Question If a QB the Saints love happens to fall to them at 14, they would absolutely pull the trigger and draft him. I can even see them moving up a little if necessary. Yes, the Saints are committed to Carr, but a commitment to any player doesn't mean you sit back and never try to improve. What I can just about guarantee is they won't draft a QB in round 1 that needs a lot of work to be NFL ready, it would have to be someone by their 2nd year should be able to win the starting job.

01-31-2024, 08:47 AM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,212	Re: Draft Question I seriously doubt the Saints would take a QB at 14. They made a longer term commitment to Carr when they picked him up. They appear to remain in a win now mode and have publicly stated their needs on both lines. Moving down simply is not in their (Loomis') DNA, as well. However, I wouldn't be surprised at all if they moved up in the mid-rounds to pick up competition with Haener as a developmental/backup piece.

01-31-2024, 09:00 AM	#5
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,123 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Draft Question Originally Posted by keithday123 So what happens with the Saints sitting at 14 if one of these mid level quarterbacks like Nix or Pennix is there? Do the Saints draft one if they really like them, draft another position of need, or look for a trade partner who may really want one of these guys? Haven’t really heard this question answered so was just wondering on everyone’s opinion. We have this already... why waste a pick on another one. Draft the meanest badest OL and DL you can buy, and then some. iceshack149, Danno, AsylumGuido and 1 others like this.

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01-31-2024, 09:22 AM	#6
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Draft Question The Saints aren’t drafting a QB. Doesn’t matter who the player is, the Saints aren’t drafting a QB. SmashMouth and WW_Who_Dat like this.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,212	Re: Draft Question Originally Posted by SmashMouth We have this already... why waste a pick on another one. Draft the meanest badest OL and DL you can buy, and then some. I really hope we try to address the lines mainly in free agency so they can contribute immediately. There's supposed to be a slew of them on the market. For the most part anyone you pick up in the draft is going to require a good deal of work before they can contribute. Not to say we shouldn't also target some big uglies via the draft, but understanding they likely won't be starting any time soon. SmashMouth and Rugby Saint II like this.

01-31-2024, 10:14 AM	#8
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,123 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Draft Question Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I really hope we try to address the lines mainly in free agency so they can contribute immediately. There's supposed to be a slew of them on the market. For the most part anyone you pick up in the draft is going to require a good deal of work before they can contribute. Not to say we shouldn't also target some big uglies via the draft, but understanding they likely won't be starting any time soon. This means more cap deficits... At some point the credit limit will be reached, even with our cap navigation wizardry.

01-31-2024, 10:15 AM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,212	Re: Draft Question Originally Posted by SmashMouth This means more cap deficits... At some point the credit limit will be reached, even with our cap navigation wizardry. What good is the cap if you don't spend it? It's guaranteed to keep climbing through the end of this latest contract round which is basically a decade from now. Then they'll have another round of new huge deals.

01-31-2024, 10:17 AM	#10
neugey Hu Dat! Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 6,697 Blog Entries: 13	Re: Draft Question BPA with our first two selections and adjust as needed. If Bowers falls to #14 and we think he's gonna be a star then grab him and worry about trading Taysom and/or Juwan Johnson post-draft. If a Penix or McCarthy happens to fall to our 2nd round pick might be worth a good look. Drafting for need in the first 2 rounds is a lesser approach IMO. Just don't trade up or I will go nuts! SmashMouth likes this.