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Old 03-25-2024, 01:27 PM   #191
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Old 03-25-2024, 02:46 PM   #192
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If JD5 slides for whatever reason to Saints.... should we?
“We should” but this organization has no interest in putting legit competition behind Carmax.

Absolutely no chance Loomis & co are interested.

Sad really.
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Old 03-26-2024, 08:49 AM   #194
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Flag football at it's finest... with pads.
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Old 03-26-2024, 09:28 AM   #195
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Flag football at it's finest... with pads.
The hip-drop tackle was introduced to the league within the last couple of decades. Just ask Rugs, it came from rugby and has since been banned in rugby due to the rash of serious injuries involved. It is no less dangerous than the horse-collar tackle and from what I have heard even more likely to cause serious injury. The NFL is just correcting their mistake of adopting it, as well. From what I'm hearing it probably won't draw a penalty, but will result in a letter from the league and a fine just like some other infractions.

When the competitions committee votes unanimously you knows it's something that was a major concern.

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Old 03-26-2024, 09:36 AM   #196
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Flag football at it's finest... with pads.
RESCIND the “No Taunting” Rule!
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Old 03-26-2024, 12:39 PM   #198
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The hip-drop tackle was introduced to the league within the last couple of decades. Just ask Rugs, it came from rugby and has since been banned in rugby due to the rash of serious injuries involved. It is no less dangerous than the horse-collar tackle and from what I have heard even more likely to cause serious injury. The NFL is just correcting their mistake of adopting it, as well. From what I'm hearing it probably won't draw a penalty, but will result in a letter from the league and a fine just like some other infractions.

When the competitions committee votes unanimously you knows it's something that was a major concern.
Players are against it, officials won't call it, so what's the point?

The NFL wants increased scoring so they're going to turn the NFL into the NBA by playing no defense while implementing an MLB strike zone for tackling. You can't tackle high, you can't tackle low, and tackling from behind will be difficult.

Sounds like we're in for a treat.
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Old 03-26-2024, 01:51 PM   #199
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Players are against it, officials won't call it, so what's the point?

The NFL wants increased scoring so they're going to turn the NFL into the NBA by playing no defense while implementing an MLB strike zone for tackling. You can't tackle high, you can't tackle low, and tackling from behind will be difficult.

Sounds like we're in for a treat.
This is no different than making the horse-collar tackle illegal. The only reason the NFLPA is against it is because of possible fines on defensive players. Offensive players have been in support from what I heard. The hip-drop tackle wasn't even used until Pete Carroll introduced it to the league about 10 years ago in this video. He took it from the rugby game.


As I mentioned earlier, the hip-drop tackle has since been banned in all major rugby leagues because of all the serious injuries it was causing. Pete Carroll has now been at the forefront for having it banned in the NFL, as well. There were dramatic unexpected consequences from its introduction. I can see griping about high hits and/or low hits being "softening" the game, but until very recently the hip-drop was never part of the game to begin with.

And ONLY some defensive players are against it. Virtually all coaches are in support of the ban because of the rash of severe injuries involved.

NFL officials back proposed hip-drop tackle rule change amid protests

"NFL officials responded Thursday to protests over a proposal to outlaw a version of the "hip-drop tackle," a technique the league says has resulted in an injury rate that is up to 25 times higher than on tackles when it is not employed.

"As gatekeepers of the game, this is something that we have to remove," said Troy Vincent, the NFL's executive vice president of football operations, during a conference call with reporters.

According to competition committee chairman Rich McKay, the proposed rule was written to address only a subset of the rugby tackling style that has spread around the NFL in recent years. It calls for a 15-yard penalty if a defender grabs the runner with both hands or wraps the runner with both arms and unweights himself by swiveling and dropping his hips and/or lower body, landing on and trapping the runner's leg[s] at or below the knee."

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Keon Coleman
6'3 WR Fl State

The Saints have set up a visit with Florida State WR Keon Coleman, per source. The Louisiana native is 6-foot-3 and had 11 touchdowns last season. Also returns punts.
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