Official 2024 Saints Draft Discussion

SmashMouth · 04-04-2024, 07:31 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

How many starting jobs left to fill for Saints?

Offensive line: 3

Current projected starter(s): Trevor Penning, James Hurst, Erik McCoy, Cesar Ruiz, Landon Young

This is a mess. Ryan Ramczyk couldn’t play a game tomorrow at right tackle after undergoing knee surgery, and the slower-than-expected recovery may keep him out for all of 2024. Trevor Penning needs to earn the left tackle job after being benched last season. James Hurst was a liability at left guard, too. The Saints could justify draft picks at any (or all three of) those positions. Right now, their top priority should be finding a top-tier tackle at either side of the line in the first round. The question is where to look first.

https://saintswire.usatoday.com/list...024-nfl-draft/

My take with 3 weeks until Round 1 kicks off:

Ideally we find a starter at tackle in the draft and it could be Left or Right.

At pick 14, I'm leaning drafting a Right Tackle like Fuaga or Latham to replace Ram.

Sign Mekhi Beckton to battle Penning at LT. It'll cost $10M per year. Minimum.

Resign Peat to play LG. Probably over-pay, but it is what it is.

Starting line: Beckton, Peat, McCoy, Ruiz, Fuaga/Latham.
Reserves: Penning, Young, Saldiveri, Late Round Pick

Then your line is set for 2024 with an emphasis on running.

Arguably more...

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Word is my man, D.J. Burns of NC State doesn't translate well to the NBA, but could make a successful transition to the NFL. It's been done before. He's 6'9" and 275 pounds. He extremely quick with great hands and footwork. Very strong.

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/s...47782232449061

He can move for a big man. Reminds me of Big Baby of LSU. Wish him well. And congrats for the entire NCSt men and women on fantastic BB seasons. I am pulling for the NCSt girls to pull it off.

turbo_dog · 04-07-2024, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

How many starting jobs left to fill for Saints?

https://saintswire.usatoday.com/list...024-nfl-draft/

Offensive line: 3

Current projected starter(s): Trevor Penning, James Hurst, Erik McCoy, Cesar Ruiz, Landon Young

This is a mess. Ryan Ramczyk couldn’t play a game tomorrow at right tackle after undergoing knee surgery, and the slower-than-expected recovery may keep him out for all of 2024. Trevor Penning needs to earn the left tackle job after being benched last season. James Hurst was a liability at left guard, too. The Saints could justify draft picks at any (or all three of) those positions. Right now, their top priority should be finding a top-tier tackle at either side of the line in the first round. The question is where to look first.

My take with three weeks until Round 1 kicks off:

Ideally we find a starter at tackle in the draft and it could be Left or Right.

At pick 14, I'm leaning drafting a Right Tackle like Fuaga or Latham to replace Ram.

Sign Mekhi Beckton to battle Penning at LT. It'll cost $10M per year. Minimum.

Resign Peat to play LG. Probably over-pay, but it is what it is.

Starting line: Beckton, Peat, McCoy, Ruiz, Fuaga/Latham.
Reserves: Penning, Young, Saldiveri, Late Round Pick

Then your line is set for 2024 with an emphasis on running.

I thought Peat played better at LT than he did at guard. I can't even believe I'm typing those words.

AsylumGuido · 04-07-2024, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by turbo_dog

I thought Peat played better at LT than he did at guard. I can't even believe I'm typing those words.

Peat was never as bad as some claimed. He came into his first camp somewhat "dumpy", for sure. Because of that some have rode him hard with things like the cruel Popeye's jokes. Since then he has always been in much better shape, but has experienced more than his share of injuries. His time at guard has, once again, been judged by one play that resulted in our franchise QB suffering a serious injury himself.

One factor to remember is that the player that beat Peat to get to Brees was arguably the greatest player to ever play his position and EVERYONE that Aaron Donald faced got beat on a regular basis.

Rell&Gold · 04-07-2024, 10:57 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Peat was never as bad as some claimed. He came into his first camp somewhat "dumpy", for sure. Because of that some have rode him hard with things like the cruel Popeye's jokes. Since then he has always been in much better shape, but has experienced more than his share of injuries. His time at guard has, once again, been judged by one play that resulted in our franchise QB suffering a serious injury himself.

One factor to remember is that the player that beat Peat to get to Brees was arguably the greatest player to ever play his position and EVERYONE that Aaron Donald faced got beat on a regular basis.

Not being available on just as bad as blown assignments if not worse because the player isn't on the field

papz · 04-08-2024, 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Peat was never as bad as some claimed. He came into his first camp somewhat "dumpy", for sure. Because of that some have rode him hard with things like the cruel Popeye's jokes. Since then he has always been in much better shape, but has experienced more than his share of injuries. His time at guard has, once again, been judged by one play that resulted in our franchise QB suffering a serious injury himself.

One factor to remember is that the player that beat Peat to get to Brees was arguably the greatest player to ever play his position and EVERYONE that Aaron Donald faced got beat on a regular basis.

Be honest with yourself here. Outside of exceding expectations at LT this past year, he's graded out poorly in almost, if not every single year he's been here. I understand the fact you are a sunshine pumper and there's nothing wrong with that. At least attempt to be a little objective. It'll go a long way. What people need to understand in defense to Peat is that he didn't make the Saints give him that contract. He would have been stupid not to sign it.

We need a tackle with one of our first two picks if we don't sign someone in free agency.

AsylumGuido · 04-08-2024, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by papz

Be honest with yourself here. Outside of exceding expectations at LT this past year, he's graded out poorly in almost, if not every single year he's been here. I understand the fact you are a sunshine pumper and there's nothing wrong with that. At least attempt to be a little objective. It'll go a long way. What people need to understand in defense to Peat is that he didn't make the Saints give him that contract. He would have been stupid not to sign it.

We need a tackle with one of our first two picks if we don't sign someone in free agency.

I never once implied that Peat was anything more than average. I only pointed out that he has been more than serviceable when healthy. Injuries are part of the game and something that should not be blamed on the individual athlete. And, as you so accurately put it, you cannot rightly blame a a player for agreeing to a contract he has been offered.

rezburna · 04-04-2024, 08:21 AM

I hate to sound like a broken record, but almost all our effort should be put into finding a LT, LG, and RT via the draft. I’m taking two tackles and a guard as early as possible. We need to let Peat walk, but if he comes back they need to keep him at LT. He looks better there. Truth be told, we need to improve at both G positions but they gave Ruiz a bag so he’s there to stay. We need to be looking for Jahri Evans and Carl Nicks then the rest would fall into play. Guard-Center-Guard is the most important to me. It allows your QB to step up in the pocket and also gives you the ability to run the ball down the throat of a defense at will. It’s a MUST we have an elite offensive line. Better look at what Detroit did and how much they’re able to get out of Goff now because he has time.

saintsfan1976 · 04-04-2024, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I hate to sound like a broken record, but almost all our effort should be put into finding a LT, LG, and RT via the draft. I’m taking two tackles and a guard as early as possible. We need to let Peat walk, but if he comes back they need to keep him at LT. He looks better there. Truth be told, we need to improve at both G positions but they gave Ruiz a bag so he’s there to stay. We need to be looking for Jahri Evans and Carl Nicks then the rest would fall into play. Guard-Center-Guard is the most important to me. It allows your QB to step up in the pocket and also gives you the ability to run the ball down the throat of a defense at will. It’s a MUST we have an elite offensive line. Better look at what Detroit did and how much they’re able to get out of Goff now because he has time.

I agree 100% and a formidable O line elevates QB play.

K Major · 04-04-2024, 09:22 AM

I’ll be shocked if we don’t go offense line @#14.

Ramz should be filling out retirement papers & Penning smells like bust material.

Only dawg left is Eric McKoy.

Saints need a lot in 2024.

leilung · 04-04-2024, 10:16 AM

In reference to elevating Penning's skill set, is there any coach that comes to mind that's sort of a G/T whisperer?

04-04-2024, 07:31 AM	#1
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,916 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Official 2024 Saints Draft Discussion Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 How many starting jobs left to fill for Saints? Offensive line: 3 Current projected starter(s): Trevor Penning, James Hurst, Erik McCoy, Cesar Ruiz, Landon Young This is a mess. Ryan Ramczyk couldn’t play a game tomorrow at right tackle after undergoing knee surgery, and the slower-than-expected recovery may keep him out for all of 2024. Trevor Penning needs to earn the left tackle job after being benched last season. James Hurst was a liability at left guard, too. The Saints could justify draft picks at any (or all three of) those positions. Right now, their top priority should be finding a top-tier tackle at either side of the line in the first round. The question is where to look first. https://saintswire.usatoday.com/list...024-nfl-draft/ My take with 3 weeks until Round 1 kicks off: Ideally we find a starter at tackle in the draft and it could be Left or Right. At pick 14, I'm leaning drafting a Right Tackle like Fuaga or Latham to replace Ram. Sign Mekhi Beckton to battle Penning at LT. It'll cost $10M per year. Minimum. Resign Peat to play LG. Probably over-pay, but it is what it is. Starting line: Beckton, Peat, McCoy, Ruiz, Fuaga/Latham. Reserves: Penning, Young, Saldiveri, Late Round Pick Then your line is set for 2024 with an emphasis on running. Arguably more... Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Word is my man, D.J. Burns of NC State doesn't translate well to the NBA, but could make a successful transition to the NFL. It's been done before. He's 6'9" and 275 pounds. He extremely quick with great hands and footwork. Very strong. https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/s...47782232449061 He can move for a big man. Reminds me of Big Baby of LSU. Wish him well. And congrats for the entire NCSt men and women on fantastic BB seasons. I am pulling for the NCSt girls to pull it off.
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04-07-2024, 05:14 PM	#2
turbo_dog 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,706	Re: Official 2024 Saints Draft Discussion Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 How many starting jobs left to fill for Saints? https://saintswire.usatoday.com/list...024-nfl-draft/ Offensive line: 3 Current projected starter(s): Trevor Penning, James Hurst, Erik McCoy, Cesar Ruiz, Landon Young This is a mess. Ryan Ramczyk couldn’t play a game tomorrow at right tackle after undergoing knee surgery, and the slower-than-expected recovery may keep him out for all of 2024. Trevor Penning needs to earn the left tackle job after being benched last season. James Hurst was a liability at left guard, too. The Saints could justify draft picks at any (or all three of) those positions. Right now, their top priority should be finding a top-tier tackle at either side of the line in the first round. The question is where to look first. My take with three weeks until Round 1 kicks off: Ideally we find a starter at tackle in the draft and it could be Left or Right. At pick 14, I'm leaning drafting a Right Tackle like Fuaga or Latham to replace Ram. Sign Mekhi Beckton to battle Penning at LT. It'll cost $10M per year. Minimum. Resign Peat to play LG. Probably over-pay, but it is what it is. Starting line: Beckton, Peat, McCoy, Ruiz, Fuaga/Latham. Reserves: Penning, Young, Saldiveri, Late Round Pick Then your line is set for 2024 with an emphasis on running. I thought Peat played better at LT than he did at guard. I can't even believe I'm typing those words.

04-07-2024, 06:01 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,672	Re: Official 2024 Saints Draft Discussion Originally Posted by turbo_dog I thought Peat played better at LT than he did at guard. I can't even believe I'm typing those words. Peat was never as bad as some claimed. He came into his first camp somewhat "dumpy", for sure. Because of that some have rode him hard with things like the cruel Popeye's jokes. Since then he has always been in much better shape, but has experienced more than his share of injuries. His time at guard has, once again, been judged by one play that resulted in our franchise QB suffering a serious injury himself. One factor to remember is that the player that beat Peat to get to Brees was arguably the greatest player to ever play his position and EVERYONE that Aaron Donald faced got beat on a regular basis.
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04-07-2024, 10:57 PM	#4
Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Official 2024 Saints Draft Discussion Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Peat was never as bad as some claimed. He came into his first camp somewhat "dumpy", for sure. Because of that some have rode him hard with things like the cruel Popeye's jokes. Since then he has always been in much better shape, but has experienced more than his share of injuries. His time at guard has, once again, been judged by one play that resulted in our franchise QB suffering a serious injury himself. One factor to remember is that the player that beat Peat to get to Brees was arguably the greatest player to ever play his position and EVERYONE that Aaron Donald faced got beat on a regular basis. Not being available on just as bad as blown assignments if not worse because the player isn't on the field

04-08-2024, 07:43 AM	#5
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,793	Re: Official 2024 Saints Draft Discussion Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Peat was never as bad as some claimed. He came into his first camp somewhat "dumpy", for sure. Because of that some have rode him hard with things like the cruel Popeye's jokes. Since then he has always been in much better shape, but has experienced more than his share of injuries. His time at guard has, once again, been judged by one play that resulted in our franchise QB suffering a serious injury himself. One factor to remember is that the player that beat Peat to get to Brees was arguably the greatest player to ever play his position and EVERYONE that Aaron Donald faced got beat on a regular basis. Be honest with yourself here. Outside of exceding expectations at LT this past year, he's graded out poorly in almost, if not every single year he's been here. I understand the fact you are a sunshine pumper and there's nothing wrong with that. At least attempt to be a little objective. It'll go a long way. What people need to understand in defense to Peat is that he didn't make the Saints give him that contract. He would have been stupid not to sign it. We need a tackle with one of our first two picks if we don't sign someone in free agency.
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04-08-2024, 08:24 AM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,672	Re: Official 2024 Saints Draft Discussion Originally Posted by papz Be honest with yourself here. Outside of exceding expectations at LT this past year, he's graded out poorly in almost, if not every single year he's been here. I understand the fact you are a sunshine pumper and there's nothing wrong with that. At least attempt to be a little objective. It'll go a long way. What people need to understand in defense to Peat is that he didn't make the Saints give him that contract. He would have been stupid not to sign it. We need a tackle with one of our first two picks if we don't sign someone in free agency. I never once implied that Peat was anything more than average. I only pointed out that he has been more than serviceable when healthy. Injuries are part of the game and something that should not be blamed on the individual athlete. And, as you so accurately put it, you cannot rightly blame a a player for agreeing to a contract he has been offered.

04-04-2024, 08:21 AM	#7
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,110	Re: Official 2024 Saints Draft Discussion I hate to sound like a broken record, but almost all our effort should be put into finding a LT, LG, and RT via the draft. I’m taking two tackles and a guard as early as possible. We need to let Peat walk, but if he comes back they need to keep him at LT. He looks better there. Truth be told, we need to improve at both G positions but they gave Ruiz a bag so he’s there to stay. We need to be looking for Jahri Evans and Carl Nicks then the rest would fall into play. Guard-Center-Guard is the most important to me. It allows your QB to step up in the pocket and also gives you the ability to run the ball down the throat of a defense at will. It’s a MUST we have an elite offensive line. Better look at what Detroit did and how much they’re able to get out of Goff now because he has time.
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04-04-2024, 10:01 AM	#8
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,036 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Official 2024 Saints Draft Discussion Originally Posted by rezburna I hate to sound like a broken record, but almost all our effort should be put into finding a LT, LG, and RT via the draft. I’m taking two tackles and a guard as early as possible. We need to let Peat walk, but if he comes back they need to keep him at LT. He looks better there. Truth be told, we need to improve at both G positions but they gave Ruiz a bag so he’s there to stay. We need to be looking for Jahri Evans and Carl Nicks then the rest would fall into play. Guard-Center-Guard is the most important to me. It allows your QB to step up in the pocket and also gives you the ability to run the ball down the throat of a defense at will. It’s a MUST we have an elite offensive line. Better look at what Detroit did and how much they’re able to get out of Goff now because he has time. I agree 100% and a formidable O line elevates QB play.

04-04-2024, 09:22 AM	#9
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,838 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Official 2024 Saints Draft Discussion I’ll be shocked if we don’t go offense line @#14. Ramz should be filling out retirement papers & Penning smells like bust material. Only dawg left is Eric McKoy. Saints need a lot in 2024.

04-04-2024, 10:16 AM	#10
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,428	Re: Official 2024 Saints Draft Discussion In reference to elevating Penning's skill set, is there any coach that comes to mind that's sort of a G/T whisperer?