Official 2024 Saints Draft Discussion

AsylumGuido · 02-25-2024, 10:29 PM

A growing theme.

K Major · 02-25-2024, 01:19 PM

DE, OL, WR, QB (Carr will never win big games).
Saints were near the bottom half in pass rush efficiency in 2023.

Dak, Mahomes, Hebert, Hurts, Love, Highland Park are all on the schedule and all will slice you up if they have time. Can’t expect the secondary to cover forever.

DE & OL are 1a & 1b for me in the upcoming draft.

saintsfan1976 · 02-26-2024, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

DE, OL, WR, QB (Carr will never win big games).
Saints were near the bottom half in pass rush efficiency in 2023.

Dak, Mahomes, Hebert, Hurts, Love, Highland Park are all on the schedule and all will slice you up if they have time. Can’t expect the secondary to cover forever.

DE & OL are 1a & 1b for me in the upcoming draft.

What if the staff feels Foskey and Turner are healthy enough and ready?

Do you still spend another high draft pick on a DE?

BakoSaint · 02-26-2024, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

What if the staff feels Foskey and Turner are healthy enough and ready?

Do you still spend another high draft pick on a DE?

The same staff thought Michael Thomas was healthy enough and ready the last 4 years. So if the right oline is not available and the right pass rusher is, and you can’t trade back, then yes. At this point anyone who pencils in Payton Turner as a definite contributor is a fool. He is in prove-it territory.

K Major · 02-26-2024, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

What if the staff feels Foskey and Turner are healthy enough and ready?

Do you still spend another high draft pick on a DE?

Yes, I would.

Especially if a guy like Bama's Dallas Turner or Jared Verse is still on the board. We have to take advantage of potentially adding another speedy, athletic pass rusher. Personally I don't trust Payton Turner's health (played in 15 games in 3 seasons) & no clue what we have in Foskey.

Saints need more juice off the edge.

saintsfan1976 · 02-26-2024, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

The same staff thought Michael Thomas was healthy enough and ready the last 4 years. So if the right oline is not available and the right pass rusher is, and you can’t trade back, then yes. At this point anyone who pencils in Payton Turner as a definite contributor is a fool. He is in prove-it territory.

Originally Posted by K Major

Yes, I would.

Especially if a guy like Bama's Dallas Turner or Jared Verse is still on the board. We have to take advantage of potentially adding another speedy, athletic pass rusher. Personally I don't trust Payton Turner's health (played in 15 games in 3 seasons) & no clue what we have in Foskey.

Saints need more juice off the edge.

Then I would argue we not DRAFT another DE. Unless the consensus "can't miss, day one impact" guy is there at 14, it may be smart to spend the money in FA on a proven player.

AsylumGuido · 02-26-2024, 03:20 PM

Here's an interesting move. The more eyes the better.

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BakoSaint · 02-26-2024, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Then I would argue we not DRAFT another DE. Unless the consensus "can't miss, day one impact" guy is there at 14, it may be smart to spend the money in FA on a proven player.

I don't want us to spend money in free agency. We have a lot of players who getting old for their positions and/or have major injury concerns such as Kamara, Davis, and Ram. I think the wisest move would be to use any spare money to avoid restructuring their contracts or spending the year well under the cap so we have financial flexibility to take dead cap hits later when they come, not extend them all to age 40. If we max or it will be cheaper to keep them all until they are Brady's age, on a year by year basis. I think we should also explore trades, but we can't do that if we can't afford dead cap hit one would bring.

K Major · 02-26-2024, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Then I would argue we not DRAFT another DE. Unless the consensus "can't miss, day one impact" guy is there at 14, it may be smart to spend the money in FA on a proven player.

I think Jared Verse could be last years version of 2023 Rookie stud DE Lukas Van Ness (immediate impact for the Packers) who was selected at 13.

At pick #14, I think we'll have some good prospects available still on the board.

Rugby Saint II · 02-26-2024, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

What if the staff feels Foskey and Turner are healthy enough and ready?

Do you still spend another high draft pick on a DE?

Originally Posted by K Major

Yes, I would.

Especially if a guy like Bama's Dallas Turner or Jared Verse is still on the board. We have to take advantage of potentially adding another speedy, athletic pass rusher. Personally I don't trust Payton Turner's health (played in 15 games in 3 seasons) & no clue what we have in Foskey.

Saints need more juice off the edge.

BPA in the trenches from both the first and second round.

02-25-2024, 01:19 PM	#2
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02-26-2024, 10:13 AM	#4
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,391	Re: Official 2024 Saints Draft Discussion Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 What if the staff feels Foskey and Turner are healthy enough and ready? Do you still spend another high draft pick on a DE? The same staff thought Michael Thomas was healthy enough and ready the last 4 years. So if the right oline is not available and the right pass rusher is, and you can’t trade back, then yes. At this point anyone who pencils in Payton Turner as a definite contributor is a fool. He is in prove-it territory.
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02-26-2024, 10:19 AM	#5
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Official 2024 Saints Draft Discussion Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 What if the staff feels Foskey and Turner are healthy enough and ready? Do you still spend another high draft pick on a DE? Yes, I would. Especially if a guy like Bama's Dallas Turner or Jared Verse is still on the board. We have to take advantage of potentially adding another speedy, athletic pass rusher. Personally I don't trust Payton Turner's health (played in 15 games in 3 seasons) & no clue what we have in Foskey. Saints need more juice off the edge. Rugby Saint II likes this.

02-26-2024, 10:35 AM	#6
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,023 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Official 2024 Saints Draft Discussion Originally Posted by BakoSaint The same staff thought Michael Thomas was healthy enough and ready the last 4 years. So if the right oline is not available and the right pass rusher is, and you can’t trade back, then yes. At this point anyone who pencils in Payton Turner as a definite contributor is a fool. He is in prove-it territory. Originally Posted by K Major Yes, I would. Especially if a guy like Bama's Dallas Turner or Jared Verse is still on the board. We have to take advantage of potentially adding another speedy, athletic pass rusher. Personally I don't trust Payton Turner's health (played in 15 games in 3 seasons) & no clue what we have in Foskey. Saints need more juice off the edge. Then I would argue we not DRAFT another DE. Unless the consensus "can't miss, day one impact" guy is there at 14, it may be smart to spend the money in FA on a proven player. AsylumGuido likes this.

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02-26-2024, 03:40 PM	#8
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,391	Re: Official 2024 Saints Draft Discussion Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Then I would argue we not DRAFT another DE. Unless the consensus "can't miss, day one impact" guy is there at 14, it may be smart to spend the money in FA on a proven player. I don't want us to spend money in free agency. We have a lot of players who getting old for their positions and/or have major injury concerns such as Kamara, Davis, and Ram. I think the wisest move would be to use any spare money to avoid restructuring their contracts or spending the year well under the cap so we have financial flexibility to take dead cap hits later when they come, not extend them all to age 40. If we max or it will be cheaper to keep them all until they are Brady's age, on a year by year basis. I think we should also explore trades, but we can't do that if we can't afford dead cap hit one would bring.
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02-26-2024, 04:01 PM	#9
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Official 2024 Saints Draft Discussion Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Then I would argue we not DRAFT another DE. Unless the consensus "can't miss, day one impact" guy is there at 14, it may be smart to spend the money in FA on a proven player. I think Jared Verse could be last years version of 2023 Rookie stud DE Lukas Van Ness (immediate impact for the Packers) who was selected at 13. At pick #14, I think we'll have some good prospects available still on the board. Rugby Saint II likes this.

02-26-2024, 05:08 PM	#10
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,153	Re: Official 2024 Saints Draft Discussion Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 What if the staff feels Foskey and Turner are healthy enough and ready? Do you still spend another high draft pick on a DE? Originally Posted by K Major Yes, I would. Especially if a guy like Bama's Dallas Turner or Jared Verse is still on the board. We have to take advantage of potentially adding another speedy, athletic pass rusher. Personally I don't trust Payton Turner's health (played in 15 games in 3 seasons) & no clue what we have in Foskey. Saints need more juice off the edge. BPA in the trenches from both the first and second round. Danno and BakoSaint like this.