Official 2024 Free Agency Discussion

AsylumGuido · 03-05-2024, 04:53 PM

This is so true. The talent pool in the NFL is getting shallower by the year at certain positions.

BakoSaint · 03-05-2024, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

This is so true. The talent pool in the NFL is getting shallower by the year at certain positions.

https://twitter.com/greggrosenthal/s...21411184832915

As evidenced by Derek Carr, Russell Wilson, and DeShaun Watson. Teams created cap space but did not find a quality player. They found a player another team discarded for non-financial reasons.

But it is easier to retain your own quality players such as Hendrickson, Williams, Elliss, Johnson, and Armstead if you have cap space.

In general I am not a big fan of high dollar free agents. It's best to retain your own when they are young, healthy, and productive but be able to move on when they are old, beat up, and declining.

It's best to replace aging/injured players internally which means needing a lot of draft picks, which means trading down more than trading up, trading current year picks at a premium more than trading future picks as a discount, and trading aging veterans for draft picks not draft picks for aging veterans. There can be times it makes sense to poach another teams player coming off their rookie contract at a good value in free agency, like Keenan Lewis who did not have a spot to start much on his first team or Demario Davis who was not the best fit on his first team. But in general the draft is the answer not free agency. And to build and retain through the draft you need more draft picks not less.

AsylumGuido · 03-06-2024, 02:23 PM

I wouldn't mind Poyer.

SmashMouth · 03-07-2024, 06:44 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

This is so true. The talent pool in the NFL is getting shallower by the year at certain positions.

https://twitter.com/greggrosenthal/s...21411184832915

Originally Posted by BakoSaint

As evidenced by Derek Carr, Russell Wilson, and DeShaun Watson. Teams created cap space but did not find a quality player. They found a player another team discarded for non-financial reasons.

But it is easier to retain your own quality players such as Hendrickson, Williams, Elliss, Johnson, and Armstead if you have cap space.

In general I am not a big fan of high dollar free agents. It's best to retain your own when they are young, healthy, and productive but be able to move on when they are old, beat up, and declining.

It's best to replace aging/injured players internally which means needing a lot of draft picks, which means trading down more than trading up, trading current year picks at a premium more than trading future picks as a discount, and trading aging veterans for draft picks not draft picks for aging veterans. There can be times it makes sense to poach another teams player coming off their rookie contract at a good value in free agency, like Keenan Lewis who did not have a spot to start much on his first team or Demario Davis who was not the best fit on his first team. But in general the draft is the answer not free agency. And to build and retain through the draft you need more draft picks not less.

Begs to question... why are fans supporting in the manner they are for what is fast becoming flag football? How would Dick Butkus survive in today's NFL?

AsylumGuido · 03-07-2024, 09:53 AM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Begs to question... why are fans supporting in the manner they are for what is fast becoming flag football? How would Dick Butkus survive in today's NFL?

They are supporting it in record numbers because it is still the most entertaining sport to follow and watch in the world. The star power is one of the major reasons why it is so successful. The league knows this and knows that injuries to those stars could hurt the brand. Thus all of the moves to make the game safer.

Butkus would have thrived and made 50 times what he made when he played back in the '60s and early '70s. He would have likely been able to double the length of his career had he played today.

AsylumGuido · 03-07-2024, 10:04 AM

Yet another stud safety hits the open market.

Rugby Saint II · 03-07-2024, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Yet another stud safety hits the open market.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1765742306802495771

We can't afford him. Rinse and repeat.

03-05-2024, 04:53 PM	#1
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03-05-2024, 06:36 PM	#2
BakoSaint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,328	Re: Official 2024 Free Agency Discussion Originally Posted by AsylumGuido This is so true. The talent pool in the NFL is getting shallower by the year at certain positions. https://twitter.com/greggrosenthal/s...21411184832915 As evidenced by Derek Carr, Russell Wilson, and DeShaun Watson. Teams created cap space but did not find a quality player. They found a player another team discarded for non-financial reasons. But it is easier to retain your own quality players such as Hendrickson, Williams, Elliss, Johnson, and Armstead if you have cap space. In general I am not a big fan of high dollar free agents. It's best to retain your own when they are young, healthy, and productive but be able to move on when they are old, beat up, and declining. It's best to replace aging/injured players internally which means needing a lot of draft picks, which means trading down more than trading up, trading current year picks at a premium more than trading future picks as a discount, and trading aging veterans for draft picks not draft picks for aging veterans. There can be times it makes sense to poach another teams player coming off their rookie contract at a good value in free agency, like Keenan Lewis who did not have a spot to start much on his first team or Demario Davis who was not the best fit on his first team. But in general the draft is the answer not free agency. And to build and retain through the draft you need more draft picks not less. Sinner, lee909 and darksoul35 like this.
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03-06-2024, 02:23 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,543	Re: Official 2024 Free Agency Discussion I wouldn't mind Poyer. Twitter

03-07-2024, 06:44 AM	#4
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,514 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Official 2024 Free Agency Discussion Originally Posted by AsylumGuido This is so true. The talent pool in the NFL is getting shallower by the year at certain positions. https://twitter.com/greggrosenthal/s...21411184832915 Originally Posted by BakoSaint As evidenced by Derek Carr, Russell Wilson, and DeShaun Watson. Teams created cap space but did not find a quality player. They found a player another team discarded for non-financial reasons. But it is easier to retain your own quality players such as Hendrickson, Williams, Elliss, Johnson, and Armstead if you have cap space. In general I am not a big fan of high dollar free agents. It's best to retain your own when they are young, healthy, and productive but be able to move on when they are old, beat up, and declining. It's best to replace aging/injured players internally which means needing a lot of draft picks, which means trading down more than trading up, trading current year picks at a premium more than trading future picks as a discount, and trading aging veterans for draft picks not draft picks for aging veterans. There can be times it makes sense to poach another teams player coming off their rookie contract at a good value in free agency, like Keenan Lewis who did not have a spot to start much on his first team or Demario Davis who was not the best fit on his first team. But in general the draft is the answer not free agency. And to build and retain through the draft you need more draft picks not less. Begs to question... why are fans supporting in the manner they are for what is fast becoming flag football? How would Dick Butkus survive in today's NFL? Sinner likes this.

03-07-2024, 09:53 AM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,543	Re: Official 2024 Free Agency Discussion Originally Posted by SmashMouth Begs to question... why are fans supporting in the manner they are for what is fast becoming flag football? How would Dick Butkus survive in today's NFL? They are supporting it in record numbers because it is still the most entertaining sport to follow and watch in the world. The star power is one of the major reasons why it is so successful. The league knows this and knows that injuries to those stars could hurt the brand. Thus all of the moves to make the game safer. Butkus would have thrived and made 50 times what he made when he played back in the '60s and early '70s. He would have likely been able to double the length of his career had he played today.

03-07-2024, 10:04 AM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,543	Re: Official 2024 Free Agency Discussion Yet another stud safety hits the open market. Twitter

03-07-2024, 11:06 AM	#7
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,125	Re: Official 2024 Free Agency Discussion Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Yet another stud safety hits the open market. https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1765742306802495771 We can't afford him. Rinse and repeat.