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saintsfan1976 02-03-2024 07:21 AM

Haener v Purdy
 
Side by side comparison is very similar.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/brock-...8-8aab5e23b748

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jake-h...5-81e19a8e5996

Haener scored higher in nearly every category.

I'm not suggesting that Haener is the heir apparent but if Carr goes down again, it'll be interesting to see what Kubiak does for Jake.

Mr.Riaton 02-03-2024 07:31 AM

Re: Haener v Purdy
 
I strongly believe there are quite a few Purdy’s out there over the years that were drafted mid to late rounds who could’ve been really good, but sat behind starters because they were viewed as developmental or back ups and never really had an honest shot with starters.
There may be nothing to Haner, but I’m very optimistic about him from what I’ve seen in preseason and I’d love to see what he can do with the starters in a real game situation, and I’m not talking about just closing out a game….im talking about a legit chance.

saintsfan1976 02-03-2024 07:33 AM

Re: Haener v Purdy
 
Apparently the Niners had an in-depth meeting with Haener prior to the draft.

neugey 02-03-2024 08:36 AM

Re: Haener v Purdy
 
We ought to have Haener as the second-string QB this year so we can find out what we have when Carr needs to be relieved due to injury or a mop-up situation. It will help us a bit with the cap to not carry a veteran backup like Jameis anyway.

rezburna 02-03-2024 09:32 AM

Re: Haener v Purdy
 
I’m not sure we have the same type of talent, players or coaches, to win with a Brock Purdy like the 49ers do. I like Haener, but we’ve had several back up QB’s hyped up that end up being duds. Looking for the diamond in the rough is cool and all, but this franchise has never taken a 1st round QB…and when you look at the history of the position here it shows.

Sinner 02-03-2024 10:40 AM

Re: Haener v Purdy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 992518)
I’m not sure we have the same type of talent, players or coaches, to win with a Brock Purdy like the 49ers do. I like Haener, but we’ve had several back up QB’s hyped up that end up being duds. Looking for the diamond in the rough is cool and all, but this franchise has never taken a 1st round QB…and when you look at the history of the position here it shows.

FACTS ^^^

MatthewT 02-03-2024 11:29 AM

Re: Haener v Purdy
 
History of drafted Saints QB's, not a pretty picture:

Year Rnd Player Pick
1971 1 Archie Manning 2
1981 1 Dave Wilson Sup 1
2015 3 Garrett Grayson 75
1994 4 Doug Nussmeier 116
1997 4 Danny Wuerffel 99
2021 4 Ian Book 133
2023 4 Jake Haener 127
1968 5 Ronnie Lee South 115
1970 5 Steve Ramsey 126
2005 5 Adrian McPherson 152
1978 6 Mike Rieker 141
1990 6 Mike Buck 156
2000 6 Marc Bulger 168
2002 6 J.T. O'Sullivan 186
2010 7 Sean Canfield 239
2020 7 Tommy Stevens 240
1990 8 Gerry Gdowski 207
1988 10 Todd Santos 274
1976 11 Greg Kokal 294
1971 14 Bobby Scott 340
1972 15 Rusty Lachaussee 372
1974 15 Larry Cipa 373
1969 16 Edd Hargett 397

Danno 02-03-2024 12:06 PM

Re: Haener v Purdy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MatthewT (Post 992531)
History of drafted Saints QB's, not a pretty picture:

Year Rnd Player Pick
1971 1 Archie Manning 2
1981 1 Dave Wilson Sup 1
2015 3 Garrett Grayson 75
1994 4 Doug Nussmeier 116
1997 4 Danny Wuerffel 99
2021 4 Ian Book 133
2023 4 Jake Haener 127
1968 5 Ronnie Lee South 115
1970 5 Steve Ramsey 126
2005 5 Adrian McPherson 152
1978 6 Mike Rieker 141
1990 6 Mike Buck 156
2000 6 Marc Bulger 168
2002 6 J.T. O'Sullivan 186
2010 7 Sean Canfield 239
2020 7 Tommy Stevens 240
1990 8 Gerry Gdowski 207
1988 10 Todd Santos 274
1976 11 Greg Kokal 294
1971 14 Bobby Scott 340
1972 15 Rusty Lachaussee 372
1974 15 Larry Cipa 373
1969 16 Edd Hargett 397

Odd, only one 1st rounder?

vpheughan 02-03-2024 06:43 PM

Re: Haener v Purdy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 992518)
I’m not sure we have the same type of talent, players or coaches, to win with a Brock Purdy like the 49ers do. I like Haener, but we’ve had several back up QB’s hyped up that end up being duds. Looking for the diamond in the rough is cool and all, but this franchise has never taken a 1st round QB…and when you look at the history of the position here it shows.

Glad you brought that up, I did a little project on Saints QB'S 2006 - 2023

• Saints QB Draft 2006 - 2023
• 2023 (127rd): Jake Haener, QB, Fresno State
• 2021 (133rd): Ian Book, QB, Notre Dame
• 2020 (240th): Tommy Stevens, QB, Mississippi State
• 2015 (75th): Garrett Grayson, QB, Colorado State
• 2010 (239th): Sean Canfield, QB, Oregon State

• Saints QB Free Agent / Trade* 2006 -2023
• Drew Brees Purdue
• Jamie Martin Weber State
• Tyler Palko Pittsburg
• Mark Brunell Washington
• Joey Harrington Oregon
• Chase Daniel Missouri
• Luke McCown Louisiana Tech
• Ryan Griffin Tulane
• Matt Flynn Louisiana State
• Taysom Hill Brigham Young
• Teddy Bridgewater Louisville *New York Jets
• Jaemis Winston Florida State
• Trevor Siemian Northwestern
• Andy Dalton TCU
• Dereck Carr Fresno State

SmashMouth 02-03-2024 07:55 PM

Re: Haener v Purdy
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 992509)
Side by side comparison is very similar.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/brock-...8-8aab5e23b748

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jake-h...5-81e19a8e5996

Haener scored higher in nearly every category.

I'm not suggesting that Haener is the heir apparent but if Carr goes down again, it'll be interesting to see what Kubiak does for Jake.

Been saying this since last year... we'll see.


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