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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Side by side comparison is very similar. https://www.nfl.com/prospects/brock-...8-8aab5e23b748 https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jake-h...5-81e19a8e5996 Haener scored higher in nearly every category. I'm not suggesting that Haener is the heir apparent but if Carr goes down again, it'll be interesting to see what Kubiak does for ...

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Old 02-03-2024, 08:21 AM   #1
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Haener v Purdy

Side by side comparison is very similar.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/brock-...8-8aab5e23b748

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jake-h...5-81e19a8e5996

Haener scored higher in nearly every category.

I'm not suggesting that Haener is the heir apparent but if Carr goes down again, it'll be interesting to see what Kubiak does for Jake.
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Old 02-03-2024, 08:31 AM   #2
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Re: Haener v Purdy

I strongly believe there are quite a few Purdys out there over the years that were drafted mid to late rounds who couldve been really good, but sat behind starters because they were viewed as developmental or back ups and never really had an honest shot with starters.
There may be nothing to Haner, but Im very optimistic about him from what Ive seen in preseason and Id love to see what he can do with the starters in a real game situation, and Im not talking about just closing out a game.im talking about a legit chance.
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Old 02-03-2024, 08:33 AM   #3
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Apparently the Niners had an in-depth meeting with Haener prior to the draft.
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Re: Haener v Purdy

We ought to have Haener as the second-string QB this year so we can find out what we have when Carr needs to be relieved due to injury or a mop-up situation. It will help us a bit with the cap to not carry a veteran backup like Jameis anyway.
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Im not sure we have the same type of talent, players or coaches, to win with a Brock Purdy like the 49ers do. I like Haener, but weve had several back up QBs hyped up that end up being duds. Looking for the diamond in the rough is cool and all, but this franchise has never taken a 1st round QBand when you look at the history of the position here it shows.
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Old 02-03-2024, 11:40 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by rezburna View Post
Im not sure we have the same type of talent, players or coaches, to win with a Brock Purdy like the 49ers do. I like Haener, but weve had several back up QBs hyped up that end up being duds. Looking for the diamond in the rough is cool and all, but this franchise has never taken a 1st round QBand when you look at the history of the position here it shows.
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Old 02-03-2024, 12:29 PM   #7
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History of drafted Saints QB's, not a pretty picture:

Year Rnd Player Pick
1971 1 Archie Manning 2
1981 1 Dave Wilson Sup 1
2015 3 Garrett Grayson 75
1994 4 Doug Nussmeier 116
1997 4 Danny Wuerffel 99
2021 4 Ian Book 133
2023 4 Jake Haener 127
1968 5 Ronnie Lee South 115
1970 5 Steve Ramsey 126
2005 5 Adrian McPherson 152
1978 6 Mike Rieker 141
1990 6 Mike Buck 156
2000 6 Marc Bulger 168
2002 6 J.T. O'Sullivan 186
2010 7 Sean Canfield 239
2020 7 Tommy Stevens 240
1990 8 Gerry Gdowski 207
1988 10 Todd Santos 274
1976 11 Greg Kokal 294
1971 14 Bobby Scott 340
1972 15 Rusty Lachaussee 372
1974 15 Larry Cipa 373
1969 16 Edd Hargett 397
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Re: Haener v Purdy

Originally Posted by MatthewT View Post
History of drafted Saints QB's, not a pretty picture:

Year Rnd Player Pick
1971 1 Archie Manning 2
1981 1 Dave Wilson Sup 1
2015 3 Garrett Grayson 75
1994 4 Doug Nussmeier 116
1997 4 Danny Wuerffel 99
2021 4 Ian Book 133
2023 4 Jake Haener 127
1968 5 Ronnie Lee South 115
1970 5 Steve Ramsey 126
2005 5 Adrian McPherson 152
1978 6 Mike Rieker 141
1990 6 Mike Buck 156
2000 6 Marc Bulger 168
2002 6 J.T. O'Sullivan 186
2010 7 Sean Canfield 239
2020 7 Tommy Stevens 240
1990 8 Gerry Gdowski 207
1988 10 Todd Santos 274
1976 11 Greg Kokal 294
1971 14 Bobby Scott 340
1972 15 Rusty Lachaussee 372
1974 15 Larry Cipa 373
1969 16 Edd Hargett 397
Odd, only one 1st rounder?
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Old 02-03-2024, 07:43 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by rezburna View Post
Im not sure we have the same type of talent, players or coaches, to win with a Brock Purdy like the 49ers do. I like Haener, but weve had several back up QBs hyped up that end up being duds. Looking for the diamond in the rough is cool and all, but this franchise has never taken a 1st round QBand when you look at the history of the position here it shows.
Glad you brought that up, I did a little project on Saints QB'S 2006 - 2023

Saints QB Draft 2006 - 2023
2023 (127rd): Jake Haener, QB, Fresno State
2021 (133rd): Ian Book, QB, Notre Dame
2020 (240th): Tommy Stevens, QB, Mississippi State
2015 (75th): Garrett Grayson, QB, Colorado State
2010 (239th): Sean Canfield, QB, Oregon State

Saints QB Free Agent / Trade* 2006 -2023
Drew Brees Purdue
Jamie Martin Weber State
Tyler Palko Pittsburg
Mark Brunell Washington
Joey Harrington Oregon
Chase Daniel Missouri
Luke McCown Louisiana Tech
Ryan Griffin Tulane
Matt Flynn Louisiana State
Taysom Hill Brigham Young
Teddy Bridgewater Louisville *New York Jets
Jaemis Winston Florida State
Trevor Siemian Northwestern
Andy Dalton TCU
Dereck Carr Fresno State

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Re: Haener v Purdy

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 View Post
Side by side comparison is very similar.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/brock-...8-8aab5e23b748

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/jake-h...5-81e19a8e5996

Haener scored higher in nearly every category.

I'm not suggesting that Haener is the heir apparent but if Carr goes down again, it'll be interesting to see what Kubiak does for Jake.
Been saying this since last year... we'll see.
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