MORE MUSINGS FROM THE NEGATIVE

rezburna · 02-14-2024, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by Sinner

Y’all must know by now that I’m not digging Carr… at all. The Raiders knew what they were kicking to the curb. We dat curb.

I’m with ya. We stuck now though.

The Dude · 02-14-2024, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The Saints' biggest issue was injuries, once again. The next biggest issue was Allen's giving the keys to the offense to Carmichael. Hopefully, both issues have been rectified. Given the anemic offense, Allen's defense performed quite well.

Our biggest problem was the uncanny ability of one position group to suck balls for half the season and when they finally start to get their **** together another position group ****s the bed.
Considering the draft capitol spent on the offensive line the way they performed was inexcusable. It almost looked purposeful.

leilung · 02-15-2024, 05:00 AM

I can understand how some will point at injuries as the prime culprit in underperformance, but every team in the league gets bit by the injury bug and still finds ways to overcome the adversity and win! (Especially against weak teams!) If our injuries are substantially more than other teams, then don't you think the team needs to carefully analyze the types of injuries that are occurring and look at how they're preparing? (I'm looking at the position and conditioning coaches here.)
The excuse/reason of 'well, there were injuries', however true, rings hollow after several seasons of the same.

AsylumGuido · 02-15-2024, 07:40 AM

Originally Posted by leilung

I can understand how some will point at injuries as the prime culprit in underperformance, but every team in the league gets bit by the injury bug and still finds ways to overcome the adversity and win! (Especially against weak teams!) If our injuries are substantially more than other teams, then don't you think the team needs to carefully analyze the types of injuries that are occurring and look at how they're preparing? (I'm looking at the position and conditioning coaches here.)
The excuse/reason of 'well, there were injuries', however true, rings hollow after several seasons of the same.

Injuries to the offensive line have the same effect on all teams. Those that are the most successful are almost always the healthiest. Most teams can overcome the loss of one lineman, but two, three, or even four you can write 'em off.

mapcow · 02-15-2024, 08:00 AM

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K Major · 02-15-2024, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by leilung

I can understand how some will point at injuries as the prime culprit in underperformance, but every team in the league gets bit by the injury bug and still finds ways to overcome the adversity and win! (Especially against weak teams!) If our injuries are substantially more than other teams, then don't you think the team needs to carefully analyze the types of injuries that are occurring and look at how they're preparing? (I'm looking at the position and conditioning coaches here.)
The excuse/reason of 'well, there were injuries', however true, rings hollow after several seasons of the same.

+1.

What's even more frustrating is that the 2023 Saints were relatively healthy the majority of the season. Injuries are part of this brutal sport.

Find better depth (see Niners, Dallas, Detroit, Rams) because a starter will go down. I'd move on from players (depth pieces) like Baun, Garcia & James Hurst.

Hopefully Klint has a solid plan on offense in 2024.

K Major · 02-15-2024, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by Sinner

Y’all must know by now that I’m not digging Carr… at all. The Raiders knew what they were kicking to the curb. We dat curb.

Same.
63-79 as a starter in Oakland/LV.

9-8 in New Orleans.

10 years in, I think it's safe to say his body of work is mediocre at best.

Rugby Saint II · 02-15-2024, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

+1.

What's even more frustrating is that the 2023 Saints were relatively healthy the majority of the season. Injuries are part of this brutal sport.

Find better depth (see Niners, Dallas, Detroit, Rams) because a starter will go down. I'd move on from players (depth pieces) like Baun, Garcia & James Hurst.

Hopefully Klint has a solid plan on offense in 2024.

We definitely need better depth on the O line because our third stringer will be a starter at some point. Move on from Hurst. He was adequate a few years back but he's a weak link now and we can do better.

AsylumGuido · 02-15-2024, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

We definitely need better depth on the O line because our third stringer will be a starter at some point. Move on from Hurst. He was adequate a few years back but he's a weak link now and we can do better.

That, my friend, is easier said than done. More than half the teams in the league would love to have a Hurst on their roster.

AsylumGuido · 02-15-2024, 03:18 PM

Some would argue that the 49er's took a deadly hit via injury to Greenlaw in the Super Bowl. They didn't have the depth to replace him. I believe they were up by 10 when he went down.

02-14-2024, 09:38 PM	#31
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,114	Re: MORE MUSINGS FROM THE NEGATIVE Originally Posted by Sinner Y’all must know by now that I’m not digging Carr… at all. The Raiders knew what they were kicking to the curb. We dat curb. I’m with ya. We stuck now though. Sinner and K Major like this.

02-14-2024, 10:08 PM	#32
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,063	Re: MORE MUSINGS FROM THE NEGATIVE Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The Saints' biggest issue was injuries, once again. The next biggest issue was Allen's giving the keys to the offense to Carmichael. Hopefully, both issues have been rectified. Given the anemic offense, Allen's defense performed quite well. Our biggest problem was the uncanny ability of one position group to suck balls for half the season and when they finally start to get their ** together another position group **s the bed. Considering the draft capitol spent on the offensive line the way they performed was inexcusable. It almost looked purposeful. Sinner and K Major like this.
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02-15-2024, 05:00 AM	#33
leilung Booty Bandit Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Wastelands that are NJ Posts: 1,430	Re: MORE MUSINGS FROM THE NEGATIVE I can understand how some will point at injuries as the prime culprit in underperformance, but every team in the league gets bit by the injury bug and still finds ways to overcome the adversity and win! (Especially against weak teams!) If our injuries are substantially more than other teams, then don't you think the team needs to carefully analyze the types of injuries that are occurring and look at how they're preparing? (I'm looking at the position and conditioning coaches here.) The excuse/reason of 'well, there were injuries', however true, rings hollow after several seasons of the same. Rugby Saint II, Sinner and K Major like this.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,701	Re: MORE MUSINGS FROM THE NEGATIVE Originally Posted by leilung I can understand how some will point at injuries as the prime culprit in underperformance, but every team in the league gets bit by the injury bug and still finds ways to overcome the adversity and win! (Especially against weak teams!) If our injuries are substantially more than other teams, then don't you think the team needs to carefully analyze the types of injuries that are occurring and look at how they're preparing? (I'm looking at the position and conditioning coaches here.) The excuse/reason of 'well, there were injuries', however true, rings hollow after several seasons of the same. Injuries to the offensive line have the same effect on all teams. Those that are the most successful are almost always the healthiest. Most teams can overcome the loss of one lineman, but two, three, or even four you can write 'em off.

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02-15-2024, 10:58 AM	#36
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: MORE MUSINGS FROM THE NEGATIVE Originally Posted by leilung I can understand how some will point at injuries as the prime culprit in underperformance, but every team in the league gets bit by the injury bug and still finds ways to overcome the adversity and win! (Especially against weak teams!) If our injuries are substantially more than other teams, then don't you think the team needs to carefully analyze the types of injuries that are occurring and look at how they're preparing? (I'm looking at the position and conditioning coaches here.) The excuse/reason of 'well, there were injuries', however true, rings hollow after several seasons of the same. +1. What's even more frustrating is that the 2023 Saints were relatively healthy the majority of the season. Injuries are part of this brutal sport. Find better depth (see Niners, Dallas, Detroit, Rams) because a starter will go down. I'd move on from players (depth pieces) like Baun, Garcia & James Hurst. Hopefully Klint has a solid plan on offense in 2024. leilung, Rugby Saint II and Sinner like this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,840 Blog Entries: 3	Re: MORE MUSINGS FROM THE NEGATIVE Originally Posted by Sinner Y’all must know by now that I’m not digging Carr… at all. The Raiders knew what they were kicking to the curb. We dat curb. Same. 63-79 as a starter in Oakland/LV. 9-8 in New Orleans. 10 years in, I think it's safe to say his body of work is mediocre at best. Rugby Saint II and Sinner like this.

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Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,179	Re: MORE MUSINGS FROM THE NEGATIVE Originally Posted by K Major +1. What's even more frustrating is that the 2023 Saints were relatively healthy the majority of the season. Injuries are part of this brutal sport. Find better depth (see Niners, Dallas, Detroit, Rams) because a starter will go down. I'd move on from players (depth pieces) like Baun, Garcia & James Hurst. Hopefully Klint has a solid plan on offense in 2024. We definitely need better depth on the O line because our third stringer will be a starter at some point. Move on from Hurst. He was adequate a few years back but he's a weak link now and we can do better.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,701	Re: MORE MUSINGS FROM THE NEGATIVE Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II We definitely need better depth on the O line because our third stringer will be a starter at some point. Move on from Hurst. He was adequate a few years back but he's a weak link now and we can do better. That, my friend, is easier said than done. More than half the teams in the league would love to have a Hurst on their roster.

02-15-2024, 03:18 PM	#40
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,701	Re: MORE MUSINGS FROM THE NEGATIVE Some would argue that the 49er's took a deadly hit via injury to Greenlaw in the Super Bowl. They didn't have the depth to replace him. I believe they were up by 10 when he went down.