Former Saints Players Who Are In the UFL Right Now

AsylumGuido · 02-16-2024, 08:48 AM

Former Saints Players Who Are In the UFL Right Now

At least 18 Saints players are in the new United Football League that will debut on March 30. Here's who's on each team.

JOHN HENDRIX 11 MINUTES AGO

The United Football League is right around the corner. It will at least help fill some of the void left behind from the NFL season wrapping up, and there's certainly some intrigue to the combined forces of the XFL and USFL. The UFL Rosters are taking shape, and with there being just over a month to go, there's some Saints flavor to some of them. Here's some of the New Orleans ties on the current rosters of the eight teams.

See all the familiar names here ...

Danno · 02-16-2024, 09:04 AM

Whats really disturbing are the former Saints playing in the NFL right now.

Hendrickson, Anzaolone, CJGJ Onyemata, Roach, Tuttle, etc

Maybe our problem isn't so much picking talent as it its keeping the right ones.

AsylumGuido · 02-16-2024, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Whats really disturbing are the former Saints playing in the NFL right now.

Hendrickson, Anzaolone, CJGJ Onyemata, Roach, Tuttle, etc

Maybe our problem isn't so much picking talent as it its keeping the right ones.

Yup. All of those except for Gardner-Johnson were bad choices on not retaining. We had the room for all of them. Gardner-Johnson was basically shown the door and booted out. The fact we got anything for his sorry cancerous ass was a win.

That said, I remember both Anzalone and Hendrickson catching the same shade around here that Baun, Foskey, Penning, and Turner are catching today. Trey only managed TWO sacks in his first two years ... less than Turner over the same period. Hendrickson was labeled by some in this forum as a bust. Now he's one of the best in the league.

SmashMouth · 02-16-2024, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Whats really disturbing are the former Saints playing in the NFL right now.

Hendrickson, Anzaolone, CJGJ Onyemata, Roach, Tuttle, etc

Maybe our problem isn't so much picking talent as it its keeping the right ones.

Agreed on Hendrickson, CJGI. Anzalone was always injured here. Onyemata was getting older, Roach and Tuttle are rotational pieces. The one I always go to is Al Woods, our 5th rounder who wound up having a double digit career. It feels like we wasted drafting assets on our trade ups. On the other hand, the J E T S , our farm team, has always been good to us.

Rugby Saint II · 02-16-2024, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

Agreed on Hendrickson, CJGI. Anzalone was always injured here. Onyemata was getting older, Roach and Tuttle are rotational pieces. The one I always go to is Al Woods, our 5th rounder who wound up having a double digit career. It feels like we wasted drafting assets on our trade ups. On the other hand, the J E T S , our farm team, has always been good to us.

Oh Smash! You really nailed it talking about wasting draft assets moving up in the draft. Here's our trades since 2017. This doesn't include which year the picks that we traded away.

In 2021 we traded two third round picks to move up for Adebo. That was a good trade.
We traded a sixth and a seventh for Landon Young. Meh trade.

In 2020 we traded two third round picks and a seventh round pick to move up for Zach Baun. Another meh trade we didn't know how to use until Cam went down.
We traded a fourth round pick, sixth round pick, and two seventh round picks for Adam Trautman. Bad trade.
Traded a sixth and seventh round for Tommy Stevens. Bad trade.

In 2019 we traded two second round, a fourth round, and a sixth round for Eric McCoy and a fourth round pick. Good trade.
Traded third round and sixth round for Teddy Bridgewater. Good trade.
Traded a fourth and a seventh round for Eli apple. OK move. We did get Kaden Ellis in the seventh round. Good enough trade.

In 2018 we traded two first round draft picks and one fifth rounder to move up for Marcus Davenport. :nuff said.

In 2017 We traded Brandon Cooks and a fourth round pick. We got Ramczyk in the first round and found Trey Hendrickson(T-Rex) in that draft. Good trade.
We traded a second round and a seventh to move up for AK in the third round. Home run trade.
We traded Stephon Anthony for a fifth round pick. No trade benefit.
This was our best draft class since 2006 and gave us the talent to overcome three back to back 7-9 seasons.

It's time to nail another draft. Kubiak needs some ammo. Let's give it to him!

AsylumGuido · 02-16-2024, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Oh Smash! You really nailed it talking about wasting draft assets moving up in the draft. Here's our trades since 2017. This doesn't include which year the picks that we traded away.

In 2021 we traded two third round picks to move up for Adebo. That was a good trade.
We traded a sixth and a seventh for Landon Young. Meh trade.

In 2020 we traded two third round picks and a seventh round pick to move up for Zach Baun. Another meh trade we didn't know how to use until Cam went down.
We traded a fourth round pick, sixth round pick, and two seventh round picks for Adam Trautman. Bad trade.
Traded a sixth and seventh round for Tommy Stevens. Bad trade.

In 2019 we traded two second round, a fourth round, and a sixth round for Eric McCoy and a fourth round pick. Good trade.
Traded third round and sixth round for Teddy Bridgewater. Good trade.
Traded a fourth and a seventh round for Eli apple. OK move. We did get Kaden Ellis in the seventh round. Good enough trade.

In 2018 we traded two first round draft picks and one fifth rounder to move up for Marcus Davenport. :nuff said.

In 2017 We traded Brandon Cooks and a fourth round pick. We got Ramczyk in the first round and found Trey Hendrickson(T-Rex) in that draft. Good trade.
We traded a second round and a seventh to move up for AK in the third round. Home run trade.
We traded Stephon Anthony for a fifth round pick. No trade benefit.
This was our best draft class since 2006 and gave us the talent to overcome three back to back 7-9 seasons.

It's time to nail another draft. Kubiak needs some ammo. Let's give it to him!

That list looks like we came out pretty good overall on the traded picks. After all is said and done the draft is a crapshoot for the most part.

SmashMouth · 02-21-2024, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Oh Smash! You really nailed it talking about wasting draft assets moving up in the draft. Here's our trades since 2017. This doesn't include which year the picks that we traded away.

In 2021 we traded two third round picks to move up for Adebo. That was a good trade.
We traded a sixth and a seventh for Landon Young. Meh trade.

In 2020 we traded two third round picks and a seventh round pick to move up for Zach Baun. Another meh trade we didn't know how to use until Cam went down.
We traded a fourth round pick, sixth round pick, and two seventh round picks for Adam Trautman. Bad trade.
Traded a sixth and seventh round for Tommy Stevens. Bad trade.

In 2019 we traded two second round, a fourth round, and a sixth round for Eric McCoy and a fourth round pick. Good trade.
Traded third round and sixth round for Teddy Bridgewater. Good trade.
Traded a fourth and a seventh round for Eli apple. OK move. We did get Kaden Ellis in the seventh round. Good enough trade.

In 2018 we traded two first round draft picks and one fifth rounder to move up for Marcus Davenport. :nuff said.

In 2017 We traded Brandon Cooks and a fourth round pick. We got Ramczyk in the first round and found Trey Hendrickson(T-Rex) in that draft. Good trade.
We traded a second round and a seventh to move up for AK in the third round. Home run trade.
We traded Stephon Anthony for a fifth round pick. No trade benefit.
This was our best draft class since 2006 and gave us the talent to overcome three back to back 7-9 seasons.

It's time to nail another draft. Kubiak needs some ammo. Let's give it to him!

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

That list looks like we came out pretty good overall on the traded picks. After all is said and done the draft is a crapshoot for the most part.

If it's such a crap shoot, we coulda had more talent to evaluate and get a chance to either fail or succeed with those traded away selections.

As I stated before, it's almost like a casino where the house always wins. You might get lucky as many do once in a blue moon. We need a greater level of consistency. Jeff Ireland has helped some of late. Maybe this new coaching blood will help too.

AsylumGuido · 02-21-2024, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

If it's such a crap shoot, we coulda had more talent to evaluate and get a chance to either fail or succeed with those traded away selections.

As I stated before, it's almost like a casino where the house always wins. You might get lucky as many do once in a blue moon. We need a greater level of consistency. Jeff Ireland has helped some of late. Maybe this new coaching blood will help too.

The thing about the draft crap shoot is that it has been proven that the higher the pick the better odds that pick will be "successful". This isn't to say lower picks can't be successful, but statistically fewer are. Numbers may show a 2nd rounder has a 1 in 3 chance at being a success. And the numbers may show a 5th rounder has a 1 in 10 chance of being a success. Statistically speaking, that means that one 2nd rounder (1:3 or 33.3%) has a slightly greater chance of being a success than any of three 5th rounders (3:10 or 30%). In this case trading a 2nd rounder for three 5th rounders would statistically lower your chances of obtaining a successful player.

I've seen varying definitions of "successful", but the principle holds true.

02-16-2024, 08:48 AM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Former Saints Players Who Are In the UFL Right Now Former Saints Players Who Are In the UFL Right Now Twitter At least 18 Saints players are in the new United Football League that will debut on March 30. Here's who's on each team. JOHN HENDRIX 11 MINUTES AGO The United Football League is right around the corner. It will at least help fill some of the void left behind from the NFL season wrapping up, and there's certainly some intrigue to the combined forces of the XFL and USFL. The UFL Rosters are taking shape, and with there being just over a month to go, there's some Saints flavor to some of them. Here's some of the New Orleans ties on the current rosters of the eight teams. See all the familiar names here ...
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02-16-2024, 09:04 AM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: Former Saints Players Who Are In the UFL Right Now Whats really disturbing are the former Saints playing in the NFL right now. Hendrickson, Anzaolone, CJGJ Onyemata, Roach, Tuttle, etc Maybe our problem isn't so much picking talent as it its keeping the right ones. UK_WhoDat, Rugby Saint II and Sinner like this.

02-16-2024, 09:32 AM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Former Saints Players Who Are In the UFL Right Now Originally Posted by Danno Whats really disturbing are the former Saints playing in the NFL right now. Hendrickson, Anzaolone, CJGJ Onyemata, Roach, Tuttle, etc Maybe our problem isn't so much picking talent as it its keeping the right ones. Yup. All of those except for Gardner-Johnson were bad choices on not retaining. We had the room for all of them. Gardner-Johnson was basically shown the door and booted out. The fact we got anything for his sorry cancerous ass was a win. That said, I remember both Anzalone and Hendrickson catching the same shade around here that Baun, Foskey, Penning, and Turner are catching today. Trey only managed TWO sacks in his first two years ... less than Turner over the same period. Hendrickson was labeled by some in this forum as a bust. Now he's one of the best in the league.
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02-16-2024, 09:48 AM	#4
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,200 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Former Saints Players Who Are In the UFL Right Now Originally Posted by Danno Whats really disturbing are the former Saints playing in the NFL right now. Hendrickson, Anzaolone, CJGJ Onyemata, Roach, Tuttle, etc Maybe our problem isn't so much picking talent as it its keeping the right ones. Agreed on Hendrickson, CJGI. Anzalone was always injured here. Onyemata was getting older, Roach and Tuttle are rotational pieces. The one I always go to is Al Woods, our 5th rounder who wound up having a double digit career. It feels like we wasted drafting assets on our trade ups. On the other hand, the J E T S , our farm team, has always been good to us. UK_WhoDat and Rugby Saint II like this.

02-16-2024, 12:17 PM	#5
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,073	Re: Former Saints Players Who Are In the UFL Right Now Originally Posted by SmashMouth Agreed on Hendrickson, CJGI. Anzalone was always injured here. Onyemata was getting older, Roach and Tuttle are rotational pieces. The one I always go to is Al Woods, our 5th rounder who wound up having a double digit career. It feels like we wasted drafting assets on our trade ups. On the other hand, the J E T S , our farm team, has always been good to us. Oh Smash! You really nailed it talking about wasting draft assets moving up in the draft. Here's our trades since 2017. This doesn't include which year the picks that we traded away. In 2021 we traded two third round picks to move up for Adebo. That was a good trade. We traded a sixth and a seventh for Landon Young. Meh trade. In 2020 we traded two third round picks and a seventh round pick to move up for Zach Baun. Another meh trade we didn't know how to use until Cam went down. We traded a fourth round pick, sixth round pick, and two seventh round picks for Adam Trautman. Bad trade. Traded a sixth and seventh round for Tommy Stevens. Bad trade. In 2019 we traded two second round, a fourth round, and a sixth round for Eric McCoy and a fourth round pick. Good trade. Traded third round and sixth round for Teddy Bridgewater. Good trade. Traded a fourth and a seventh round for Eli apple. OK move. We did get Kaden Ellis in the seventh round. Good enough trade. In 2018 we traded two first round draft picks and one fifth rounder to move up for Marcus Davenport. :nuff said. In 2017 We traded Brandon Cooks and a fourth round pick. We got Ramczyk in the first round and found Trey Hendrickson(T-Rex) in that draft. Good trade. We traded a second round and a seventh to move up for AK in the third round. Home run trade. We traded Stephon Anthony for a fifth round pick. No trade benefit. This was our best draft class since 2006 and gave us the talent to overcome three back to back 7-9 seasons. It's time to nail another draft. Kubiak needs some ammo. Let's give it to him! SmashMouth likes this.
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02-16-2024, 12:37 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Former Saints Players Who Are In the UFL Right Now Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Oh Smash! You really nailed it talking about wasting draft assets moving up in the draft. Here's our trades since 2017. This doesn't include which year the picks that we traded away. In 2021 we traded two third round picks to move up for Adebo. That was a good trade. We traded a sixth and a seventh for Landon Young. Meh trade. In 2020 we traded two third round picks and a seventh round pick to move up for Zach Baun. Another meh trade we didn't know how to use until Cam went down. We traded a fourth round pick, sixth round pick, and two seventh round picks for Adam Trautman. Bad trade. Traded a sixth and seventh round for Tommy Stevens. Bad trade. In 2019 we traded two second round, a fourth round, and a sixth round for Eric McCoy and a fourth round pick. Good trade. Traded third round and sixth round for Teddy Bridgewater. Good trade. Traded a fourth and a seventh round for Eli apple. OK move. We did get Kaden Ellis in the seventh round. Good enough trade. In 2018 we traded two first round draft picks and one fifth rounder to move up for Marcus Davenport. :nuff said. In 2017 We traded Brandon Cooks and a fourth round pick. We got Ramczyk in the first round and found Trey Hendrickson(T-Rex) in that draft. Good trade. We traded a second round and a seventh to move up for AK in the third round. Home run trade. We traded Stephon Anthony for a fifth round pick. No trade benefit. This was our best draft class since 2006 and gave us the talent to overcome three back to back 7-9 seasons. It's time to nail another draft. Kubiak needs some ammo. Let's give it to him! That list looks like we came out pretty good overall on the traded picks. After all is said and done the draft is a crapshoot for the most part.

02-21-2024, 03:56 PM	#7
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,200 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Former Saints Players Who Are In the UFL Right Now Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Oh Smash! You really nailed it talking about wasting draft assets moving up in the draft. Here's our trades since 2017. This doesn't include which year the picks that we traded away. In 2021 we traded two third round picks to move up for Adebo. That was a good trade. We traded a sixth and a seventh for Landon Young. Meh trade. In 2020 we traded two third round picks and a seventh round pick to move up for Zach Baun. Another meh trade we didn't know how to use until Cam went down. We traded a fourth round pick, sixth round pick, and two seventh round picks for Adam Trautman. Bad trade. Traded a sixth and seventh round for Tommy Stevens. Bad trade. In 2019 we traded two second round, a fourth round, and a sixth round for Eric McCoy and a fourth round pick. Good trade. Traded third round and sixth round for Teddy Bridgewater. Good trade. Traded a fourth and a seventh round for Eli apple. OK move. We did get Kaden Ellis in the seventh round. Good enough trade. In 2018 we traded two first round draft picks and one fifth rounder to move up for Marcus Davenport. :nuff said. In 2017 We traded Brandon Cooks and a fourth round pick. We got Ramczyk in the first round and found Trey Hendrickson(T-Rex) in that draft. Good trade. We traded a second round and a seventh to move up for AK in the third round. Home run trade. We traded Stephon Anthony for a fifth round pick. No trade benefit. This was our best draft class since 2006 and gave us the talent to overcome three back to back 7-9 seasons. It's time to nail another draft. Kubiak needs some ammo. Let's give it to him! Originally Posted by AsylumGuido That list looks like we came out pretty good overall on the traded picks. After all is said and done the draft is a crapshoot for the most part. If it's such a crap shoot, we coulda had more talent to evaluate and get a chance to either fail or succeed with those traded away selections. As I stated before, it's almost like a casino where the house always wins. You might get lucky as many do once in a blue moon. We need a greater level of consistency. Jeff Ireland has helped some of late. Maybe this new coaching blood will help too.

02-21-2024, 04:11 PM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: Former Saints Players Who Are In the UFL Right Now Originally Posted by SmashMouth If it's such a crap shoot, we coulda had more talent to evaluate and get a chance to either fail or succeed with those traded away selections. As I stated before, it's almost like a casino where the house always wins. You might get lucky as many do once in a blue moon. We need a greater level of consistency. Jeff Ireland has helped some of late. Maybe this new coaching blood will help too. The thing about the draft crap shoot is that it has been proven that the higher the pick the better odds that pick will be "successful". This isn't to say lower picks can't be successful, but statistically fewer are. Numbers may show a 2nd rounder has a 1 in 3 chance at being a success. And the numbers may show a 5th rounder has a 1 in 10 chance of being a success. Statistically speaking, that means that one 2nd rounder (1:3 or 33.3%) has a slightly greater chance of being a success than any of three 5th rounders (3:10 or 30%). In this case trading a 2nd rounder for three 5th rounders would statistically lower your chances of obtaining a successful player. I've seen varying definitions of "successful", but the principle holds true.
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