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Rugby Saint II 02-27-2024 12:55 PM

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When players refuse to run certain drills at the combine it's probably because they will have a poor showing and they don't want it on their player profile. When I see O linemen who doesn't want to bench press then that suggests that they are weaker than they look. The combine is meant to test the athletic skills of a football player to help with a profile for their evaluation. I believe that if a player skips a drill or test it's because they are afraid that their limitations will limit their draft status.

I agree, that a lot of these underwear Olympics don't translate to the playing field. Maybe they should all run these drills in shells to get a more accurate feeling for the player. Game speed is what matters. That and the ability to rapidly diagnose a play.

One more thing. Where is the test to see what the size of the mans heart is? How do you measure his passion? How do you test his desire to put in the work to be the best?

AsylumGuido 02-27-2024 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 993618)
When players refuse to run certain drills at the combine it's probably because they will have a poor showing and they don't want it on their player profile. When I see O linemen who doesn't want to bench press then that suggests that they are weaker than they look. The combine is meant to test the athletic skills of a football player to help with a profile for their evaluation. I believe that if a player skips a drill or test it's because they are afraid that their limitations will limit their draft status.

I agree, that a lot of these underwear Olympics don't translate to the playing field. Maybe they should all run these drills in shells to get a more accurate feeling for the player. Game speed is what matters. That and the ability to rapidly diagnose a play.

One more thing. Where is the test to see what the size of the mans heart is? How do you measure his passion? How do you test his desire to put in the work to be the best?

Most of the skipped tests or drills are because the players and/or their agents know it isn't going to affect their draft status. As for measuring heart and passion, a lot of that is gain through the interviews with the players, their former coaches, teachers, neighbors, clergy, teammates, etc.

AsylumGuido 02-27-2024 04:19 PM

Re: 2024 NFL Combine
 
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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 993618)
When players refuse to run certain drills at the combine it's probably because they will have a poor showing and they don't want it on their player profile. When I see O linemen who doesn't want to bench press then that suggests that they are weaker than they look. The combine is meant to test the athletic skills of a football player to help with a profile for their evaluation. I believe that if a player skips a drill or test it's because they are afraid that their limitations will limit their draft status.

I agree, that a lot of these underwear Olympics don't translate to the playing field. Maybe they should all run these drills in shells to get a more accurate feeling for the player. Game speed is what matters. That and the ability to rapidly diagnose a play.

One more thing. Where is the test to see what the size of the mans heart is? How do you measure his passion? How do you test his desire to put in the work to be the best?

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 993628)
Most of the skipped tests or drills are because the players and/or their agents know it isn't going to affect their draft status. As for measuring heart and passion, a lot of that is gain through the interviews with the players, their former coaches, teachers, neighbors, clergy, teammates, etc.

Here we go, Rugs. This is exactly what I just said in my earlier reply, coaches just don't seem to see drills and/or athletic testing as being that important at the combine.


AsylumGuido 02-29-2024 09:07 AM

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AsylumGuido 02-29-2024 09:08 AM

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Rugby Saint II 02-29-2024 03:17 PM

Re: 2024 NFL Combine
 
Hmmmm........if the combine isn't that informative then why do certain players rise while others fall? I know that you know there are measurables that matter like the three cone shuttle times.

AsylumGuido 02-29-2024 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 993736)
Hmmmm........if the combine isn't that informative then why do certain players rise while others fall? I know that you know there are measurables that matter like the three cone shuttle times.

Players rise and fall in the viewpoints of fans and media types. I suspect anything beyond personal interaction with the players goes relatively ignored by the teams themselves. Those one on one interviews, however, work the other way around. Only the teams gain the knowledge from them while the media and thus the fans really get nothing from it. I suppose some media interviews may expose the players some, but most are probably so well coached by their agents that the media stuff is mostly fluff.

Except for that player today that said he doesn't believe in outer space and that the flat-earthers may be onto something. LOL!!!


Rugby Saint II 03-02-2024 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 993739)
Players rise and fall in the viewpoints of fans and media types. I suspect anything beyond personal interaction with the players goes relatively ignored by the teams themselves. Those one on one interviews, however, work the other way around. Only the teams gain the knowledge from them while the media and thus the fans really get nothing from it. I suppose some media interviews may expose the players some, but most are probably so well coached by their agents that the media stuff is mostly fluff.

Except for that player today that said he doesn't believe in outer space and that the flat-earthers may be onto something. LOL!!!

https://twitter.com/wingoz/status/1763254737024217492

He may have found another way to drop a players draft stock.

hitta 03-03-2024 04:07 PM

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I for one think Mickey Loomis has done a great job as GM. Picking Allen has HC probably wasn't completely his call and it was probably felt in the organization up to the owner that he deserved a shot. I think he has consistently put together good rosters. Rosters don't always perform for a myriad of reasons. He's an easy scapegoat for the lazy mind. If we got rid of him the entire fanbase would have seller's regret unless we got some sort of genius GM to replace him.

SmashMouth 03-03-2024 04:24 PM

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He's arguably better than Nabors...


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