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Rugby Saint II 07-03-2024 02:51 PM

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Thank you Cam Jordan. Never stop Growing! Or in my case never grow up! :banana:

AsylumGuido 07-08-2024 03:32 PM

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rezburna 07-08-2024 03:42 PM

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I think we should consider that if we don’t have an elite slot corner. And right now I can’t say that we do.

AsylumGuido 07-08-2024 04:09 PM

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I think we should consider that if we don’t have an elite slot corner. And right now I can’t say that we do.

One of Gay's strengths has been in coverage. We haven't had that in years from the LB corps. Playing more base instead of the 80% plus 4-2-5 would really help our run defense.

Rugby Saint II 07-09-2024 02:19 PM

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I think we should consider that if we don’t have an elite slot corner. And right now I can’t say that we do.

There are a few things we don't have. Like proven offensive tackles or proven defensive ends. But a slot corner might be the most important position. I wonder who would be better there between Taylor, Kool-Aid, or Gaye? Taylor may be better there in his second season or he could be a true boundary corner, which I suspect he is better there.

AsylumGuido 07-09-2024 03:57 PM

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Breaking News!!

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We now return you to your regular programming.









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rezburna 07-10-2024 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II (Post 997259)
There are a few things we don't have. Like proven offensive tackles or proven defensive ends. But a slot corner might be the most important position. I wonder who would be better there between Taylor, Kool-Aid, or Gaye? Taylor may be better there in his second season or he could be a true boundary corner, which I suspect he is better there.

I think Kool Aid may be good as Nickel. Gay definitely can’t do it. He has good coverage for a linebacker, but he can’t cover WR’s 1 on 1. I’m not concerned with our defense though. Like, not even a little bit. I’m only concerned with offensive line. If the line is improved and we can run the ball we can shock the league.

saintsfan1976 07-10-2024 09:56 AM

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I think Kool Aid may be good as Nickel. Gay definitely can’t do it. He has good coverage for a linebacker, but he can’t cover WR’s 1 on 1. I’m not concerned with our defense though. Like, not even a little bit. I’m only concerned with offensive line. If the line is improved and we can run the ball we can shock the league.

KoolAid in the slot is how we solve Chris Godwin.

Gay at LB is how we solve for the numerous top TEs in 2024.

AsylumGuido 07-10-2024 02:29 PM

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AsylumGuido 07-10-2024 02:45 PM

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AsylumGuido 07-12-2024 05:47 PM

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AsylumGuido 07-13-2024 09:22 AM

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AsylumGuido 07-13-2024 03:24 PM

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Rugby Saint II 07-14-2024 02:16 PM

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The NOLA Gold rugby team is in the playoffs again. Jut sayin'. :p

AsylumGuido 07-16-2024 08:33 AM

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AsylumGuido 07-17-2024 12:54 PM

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Not much love for Sean Payton. :D


Sinner 07-17-2024 01:43 PM

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“Not much love for Sean Payton. 😆”

Your smiley face would kiss his shoes if he walked through cow patties and came into the building today. And rightfully so.

BakoSaint 07-17-2024 02:32 PM

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The Patriots make sense as the worst. Really tough division. 3 proven QBs vs a rookie with a lot of doubts. Bad record last year. Unproven coach who is potentially a big downgrade. Minimal weapons on offense. If Maye flops the Patriots could have the #1 overall pick again and might take another QB.

I think #3 worst on the Broncos is pretty harsh. The Broncos have an unproven QB but they have a proven coach who has won with Winston, Hill, Bridgewater, Wilson, etc.

I feel the Cardinals could be one of the worst. They were 4-13 last year. Murray could easily get hurt again and then Desmond Ridder is their QB. Or Murray could slow down or give up and lose a step since it doesn't seem to be clicking for him. I would expect the Cardinals to lose more games than the Broncos.

A lot will depend on rookie and 2nd year QBs. It seems these rankings doubt Maye, Nix, Young, and Levis but the draft is a crapshoot and it could almost as easily be Williams, Daniels, and/or McCarthy who is a disaster.

I can see the potential for Falcons to be good but also for the Falcons to be the worst team in the league. They bet the farm on an aging QB coming off an injury, and there is risk that Cousins will never be the same. They used their draft capital to select an injury prone developmental backup QB who could be forced into action too early if Cousins is not healthy. Raheem Morris is a proven loser head coach. If the first domino falls and Cousins faces a setback in his recovery, I could see the easily flustered head coach and the raw rookie QB leading the Falcons to the worst record in the NFL as the entire locker room falls apart under crushed expectations.

As a dark horse for the worst team, the Seahawks lost a proven coach in Pete Carroll who seemed like the glue holding the locker room together. Carroll was a popular coach forced into retirement and that may divide the locker room. Their new coach is totally unproven. Their QB Geno Smith is a known mediocre QB. But he was also potentially a mediocre system QB who could be unstartable with a new coach running the show. What if he regresses as bad as Russell Wilson did away from Carroll? DK Metcalf seems like his development has stalled, Lockett is getting older, and Smith-Ngigba had a disappointing rookie year with injuries.

AsylumGuido 07-18-2024 09:38 AM

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AsylumGuido 07-18-2024 09:42 AM

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AsylumGuido 07-18-2024 09:45 AM

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Anyone that claims that Demario's age is a detriment to the team completely ignores that fact that others still see him as one of the top players in the league at any position.


AsylumGuido 07-18-2024 09:49 AM

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BakoSaint 07-18-2024 11:18 AM

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Anyone that claims that Demario's age is a detriment to the team completely ignores that fact that others still see him as one of the top players in the league at any position.

https://twitter.com/TinaHowellNOLA/s...22897896882355

DeMario's age is a risk factor for his decline and makes it highly unlikely that his play could significantly improve. Its not that he isn't good now. Its that at his age there is a major risk of an abrupt decline. If we had a linebacker of similar present ability who was much younger, the odds of decline would be lower, and the odds of some sort of ridiculous Lawrence Taylor / Ray Lewis career year that leads the team to a ring with a historically good defense would, although unlikely, be possible.

Even Mickey Loomis has basically said this that, that DeMario thinks he can play forever but they realize his age and the uncertainty that brings.

Sinner 07-18-2024 11:31 AM

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DeMario's age is a risk factor for his decline and makes it highly unlikely that his play could significantly improve. Its not that he isn't good now. Its that at his age there is a major risk of an abrupt decline. If we had a linebacker of similar present ability who was much younger, the odds of decline would be lower, and the odds of some sort of ridiculous Lawrence Taylor / Ray Lewis career year that leads the team to a ring with a historically good defense would, although unlikely, be possible.

Even Mickey Loomis has basically said this that, that DeMario thinks he can play forever but they realize his age and the uncertainty that brings.

Salient points.

AsylumGuido 07-18-2024 12:13 PM

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DeMario's age is a risk factor for his decline and makes it highly unlikely that his play could significantly improve. Its not that he isn't good now. Its that at his age there is a major risk of an abrupt decline. If we had a linebacker of similar present ability who was much younger, the odds of decline would be lower, and the odds of some sort of ridiculous Lawrence Taylor / Ray Lewis career year that leads the team to a ring with a historically good defense would, although unlikely, be possible.

Even Mickey Loomis has basically said this that, that DeMario thinks he can play forever but they realize his age and the uncertainty that brings.

LOL!!!! There aren't even a handful of LB's can can play at the level of Demario today! You are so full of ****. :D He's one of the top three or four in the entire league.

AsylumGuido 07-18-2024 12:18 PM

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Bako, why do you feel you have to try and piss on anything even remotely positive that anyone posts about the Saints?

BakoSaint 07-18-2024 12:19 PM

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LOL!!!! There aren't even a handful of LB's can can play at the level of Demario today! You are so full of ****. :D He's one of the top three or four in the entire league.

Your right. And if we look at the NBA for example LeBron James and Victor Wembanyama are both exciting players performing at a high level. Which would you rather have in 5, 10, 15 years??? Nobody knows. Its a complete mystery. There is really just not one number you could look at that would give you a clue of their likely career trajectories going forward.

Also, there is an edit button, so rather than 2 consecutive posts on the same topic, feel free to edit and add to your existing reply.

I feel the need to be real. There is no health or life insurance carrier that will offer the same rate regardless of age in a free market. Realistically everyone knows Davis is older and accepts how the world works, even Mickey Loomis. Reality is not negative, its reality. Davis is as the the top of his game but he is no spring chicken and we can't play for him to do this forever.

AsylumGuido 07-18-2024 12:24 PM

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Your right. And if we look at the NBA for example LeBron James and Victor Wembanyama are both exciting players performing at a high level. Which would you rather have in 5, 10, 15 years??? Nobody knows. Its a complete mystery. There is really just not one number you could look at that would give you a clue of their likely career trajectories going forward.

Also, there is an edit button, so rather than 2 consecutive posts on the same topic, feel free to edit and add to your existing reply.

I don't think you are in a position to lecture me on how to post. :rolleyes:

AsylumGuido 07-18-2024 12:50 PM

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Sinner 07-18-2024 01:38 PM

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Your right. And if we look at the NBA for example LeBron James and Victor Wembanyama are both exciting players performing at a high level. Which would you rather have in 5, 10, 15 years??? Nobody knows. Its a complete mystery. There is really just not one number you could look at that would give you a clue of their likely career trajectories going forward.

Also, there is an edit button, so rather than 2 consecutive posts on the same topic, feel free to edit and add to your existing reply.

I feel the need to be real. There is no health or life insurance carrier that will offer the same rate regardless of age in a free market. Realistically everyone knows Davis is older and accepts how the world works, even Mickey Loomis. Reality is not negative, its reality. Davis is as the the top of his game but he is no spring chicken and we can't play for him to do this forever.

Bako… You should know by now that the word “REAL” is as difficult for him as the word “IGNORE”.

mapcow 07-18-2024 01:39 PM

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I don't think you are in a position to lecture me on how to post. :rolleyes:

neither are you.... Demario Davis is a great player but others are entitled to their RESPECTFUL opinion. :beatnik:

AsylumGuido 07-19-2024 11:14 AM

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Sinner 07-19-2024 11:22 AM

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George Blanda has a better chance of making the Pro Bowl this year, than Derek Carr.

rezburna 07-19-2024 01:30 PM

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I think Carr could definitely make a Pro Bowl this year. Tyler Huntley made one.

AsylumGuido 07-19-2024 03:54 PM

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mapcow 07-19-2024 05:26 PM

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I think Carr could definitely make a Pro Bowl this year. Tyler Huntley made one.

Hell yeah.... Chris Simms got him ranked at 22 and R Wilson at 21; out of 40 i believe. :beatnik:

AsylumGuido 07-19-2024 05:43 PM

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LOL


AsylumGuido 07-19-2024 05:44 PM

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They've got skillz!


rezburna 07-19-2024 06:37 PM

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Hell yeah.... Chris Simms got him ranked at 22 and R Wilson at 21; out of 40 i believe. :beatnik:

All the experts had us winning the division last year too and they said it was because of Carr. They throw darts at the board. I don’t love Carr. I don’t love Allen. I don’t love the line, but the division is still weak and suprises happen every year. Worse comes to worse, Carr is garbage and they realize we need to move on from him and Allen.


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