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Saints 2024 Projected Win Total 7.5

this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by SmashMouth Mebbe ... or mebbe we have our QB of the future already in the QB room. I kind of wonder what if Rattler turns out to be a Teddy Bridgewater level QB. Like not great, but ...

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Old 05-23-2024, 11:28 AM   #1
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Re: Saints 2024 Projected Win Total 7.5

Originally Posted by SmashMouth View Post
Mebbe ... or mebbe we have our QB of the future already in the QB room.
I kind of wonder what if Rattler turns out to be a Teddy Bridgewater level QB. Like not great, but pretty good. If that happens, which is definitely possible not just either great or worthless, its possible we could take a new QB in the draft at some point and get a good draft pick for Rattler to down the line to help our oline. Or if our defense is great in the future, maybe a good but not great QB will be good enough.
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Old 05-23-2024, 11:41 AM   #2
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I kind of wonder what if Rattler turns out to be a Teddy Bridgewater level QB. Like not great, but pretty good. If that happens, which is definitely possible not just either great or worthless, its possible we could take a new QB in the draft at some point and get a good draft pick for Rattler to down the line to help our oline. Or if our defense is great in the future, maybe a good but not great QB will be good enough.
At the very worst Derek Carr himself is "good but not great". Why look elsewhere? And that said, you'll never convince me that either Haener or Rattler can give us more than Carr anytime soon, if at all. I can't see either as more than a serviceable backup.

Oh, and as far as we know we already have all the help we need for our o-line in the house right now. Of course, seeing the possibility takes an open mind and some optimism.
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Old 05-23-2024, 12:25 PM   #3
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At the very worst Derek Carr himself is "good but not great". Why look elsewhere? And that said, you'll never convince me that either Haener or Rattler can give us more than Carr anytime soon, if at all. I can't see either as more than a serviceable backup.

Oh, and as far as we know we already have all the help we need for our o-line in the house right now. Of course, seeing the possibility takes an open mind and some optimism.
Sometimes good but not great QBs become not even good around Carr's age. While some generational QBs have played at a high level into their 40's like Brady, Brees, Favre, and Manning, sometime the next tier down hits a brick wall a bit earlier. Carr is 33. Jim Everett was 31 when he joined the Saints. Drew Bledsoe was 30 when he joined the Bills and 33 when he joined the Cowboys. Donovan McNabb was 33 when he joined the Redskins. Carson Palmer was 31 when he joined the Raiders and 33 when he joined the Cardinals. Andy Dalton was 32 when he lost his starting gig with the Bengals and became a backup for the Cowboys. Joe Flacco was 33 when he was replaced by Lamar Jackson after injury and was never counted on as a season long starter again. Jimmy Garappalo turned 32 last season with the Raiders.

While I agree that Carr is a lot better than any of our other QBs now, and any mid-round QB like Haener and Rattler is more of a lottery ticket than a sure thing to ever produce, I do think its very realistic that we may need to scratch off those lottery tickets and see what we have soon because it would not be surprising for Carr to decline at this stage in his career to the point that we do start trying other options. It takes a lot more insane committment to keep up the physical and mental work to remain elite in the mid and late 30's for a QB. Sometimes, great success may facilitate extra motivation to do that, so thats why we may see the greats often able to play until 40. But the next tier down may not have the motivation to work harder than ever before and become smarter on the field than ever before to make up for their bodies starting to slow down, and instead as their bodies slow down they may throw in the towel.
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Sometimes good but not great QBs become not even good around Carr's age. While some generational QBs have played at a high level into their 40's like Brady, Brees, Favre, and Manning, sometime the next tier down hits a brick wall a bit earlier. Carr is 33. Jim Everett was 31 when he joined the Saints. Drew Bledsoe was 30 when he joined the Bills and 33 when he joined the Cowboys. Donovan McNabb was 33 when he joined the Redskins. Carson Palmer was 31 when he joined the Raiders and 33 when he joined the Cardinals. Andy Dalton was 32 when he lost his starting gig with the Bengals and became a backup for the Cowboys. Joe Flacco was 33 when he was replaced by Lamar Jackson after injury and was never counted on as a season long starter again. Jimmy Garappalo turned 32 last season with the Raiders.

While I agree that Carr is a lot better than any of our other QBs now, and any mid-round QB like Haener and Rattler is more of a lottery ticket than a sure thing to ever produce, I do think its very realistic that we may need to scratch off those lottery tickets and see what we have soon because it would not be surprising for Carr to decline at this stage in his career to the point that we do start trying other options. It takes a lot more insane committment to keep up the physical and mental work to remain elite in the mid and late 30's for a QB. Sometimes, great success may facilitate extra motivation to do that, so thats why we may see the greats often able to play until 40. But the next tier down may not have the motivation to work harder than ever before and become smarter on the field than ever before to make up for their bodies starting to slow down, and instead as their bodies slow down they may throw in the towel.
Of course you take the glass half empty view. Not unexpected.
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At the very worst Derek Carr himself is "good but not great". Why look elsewhere? And that said, you'll never convince me that either Haener or Rattler can give us more than Carr anytime soon, if at all. I can't see either as more than a serviceable backup.

Oh, and as far as we know we already have all the help we need for our o-line in the house right now. Of course, seeing the possibility takes an open mind and some optimism.
Good but not Great..... like the saints of today. mediocre.
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